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So lets get this right, the bloke who gave us SBR and ran us while we were in the Champions league is 4 places ahead of the bloke who has sytematically ripped the club apart, made us a laughing stock, lied to the fans, press and managers sold some of our best players then had us relegated while making profits in the transfer windows. At the same time the chairman who presided over us during the slightly better part of Ashleys reign and brought in dealings with the fans etc is more at fault than the current greasy worm who wouldnt know how to deal with fans if he had to. Oh and a manager who was here years ago and just happened to be shite is the worst of all? Im guessing you wrote all those names down on bits of paper and threw them in the air to make that list, either that or you mis read it as a "worst tache" competition. I've added an extra line in bold above for you.... are you going to grace the thread with your order? As for the laughable attempt to say Fred should get praise for giving us SBR, it wasn't exactly rocket science hiring him was it? Now if he wasn't from the North East with a affinty for the club and a long successful carrer behind him maybe it would deserve praise. The order is largely because I don't think getting relegated was as bad as sacking SBR and bringing in Souness. You speak about the player being sold etc, but i didn't like any of them, they were either over rated, over paid, injury prone or French. Yeah I am, once Ive spent some time thinking about it properly not just using some random order, all your justifications above are valid reasons for having people on the list and tbf I hold most of those above as accountable in some shape or form but haway man get your ordering sorted. Yes Souness dismantled a good squad but he did it because he felt he could create a better one, its evey managers right to change things round, some squads can be fantastic under one manager but try and fit them into anothers style of play and they're shite. Thats not defending the bloke btw but hes not the reason we're here in the position we are now. Yes, Fred sacked SBR and hired Souness but he also did numerous other things for this club, without the whole Freddy debate raging again, you have to take into account everything and the best years we had were when Fred was involved. Your logic though that he should get no praise for hiring a great manager but all the stick for firing him is a bit rich. Fat Sam lost games, yes and it was ugly football but again hes not the reason we went down, Hughton and Shearer both lost games too, games which contributed to a relegation season, are they therefore not more to blame than Sammy boy? As for Mort ultimately allowing the wage bill to spiral, thats laughable, he did his stuff under an owner who at the time appeared not to have a problem with it, there was no debt to banks so its not like we were going to be paying out millions on interest. At the time he wasnt to know fat boy would lose some cash playing daft twats on the markets and try to claw it back from us. Mort was screwed over by Ashley nearly as much as we were. Even if he was Ashleys puppet, at least he had respect for the fans.

So lets get this right, the bloke who gave us SBR and ran us while we were in the Champions league is 4 places ahead of the bloke who has sytematically ripped the club apart, made us a laughing stock, lied to the fans, press and managers sold some of our best players then had us relegated while making profits in the transfer windows. At the same time the chairman who presided over us during the slightly better part of Ashleys reign and brought in dealings with the fans etc is more at fault than the current greasy worm who wouldnt know how to deal with fans if he had to. Oh and a manager who was here years ago and just happened to be shite is the worst of all? Im guessing you wrote all those names down on bits of paper and threw them in the air to make that list, either that or you mis read it as a "worst tache" competition.

Worrying in the sense that they are really only thinking about survival and tight budgets for team upgrading. No vision. So I'll get in before LM does. Whats the use in being there? whats the use in existing if all you're going to do is attempt to survive? thats not football, at least not for the fans, its balancing the books. Its making a profit, its all the things that football should not be about. Make no mistake, with that kind of business plan then the only people to profit (in any way shape or form) are the shareholders. I honestly think it must be more fun as a football fan to support say Blyth Spartans or Whitley Bay, teams who have a huge amount of things to aim for and are constantly striving to reach those goals than just ensuring they survive and make a profit. A good cup run for them means paying off some debts so they can buy a new player or two, those players will maybe get them promoted and hopefully get more cash in to clear more debts and buy more players...... Ive been here before though. What made this season more exciting than any in the last few years is the fact we were pushing for something, fighting to get that promotion. I dont see fighting to avoid relegation as anything like fun. As a football club owner Id no doubt think differently but as a fan I want us to compete for things not just hope we can spend as little as possible to guranteee staying in the Premiership gravy train.

speaks highly of you mind.

....and also the man Robson ultimately blamed for his sacking. FFS was in the firing line, I like FFS, he tried his best it was shite, but he done a good job till 2004, Douglas Hall was the original root of all evils in that club in my view. FFS is like your best pal trying to run a big football club, you like him but oh dear, Douglas Hall different kettle of fish, a multimillionaire many times over taking obscene wages and dividends out of the club while basically doing fuck all. Read SBR's take on him in his book, the bloke is scum. Im not disputing any of that, I think hes always been a leech and general scum but in who we hold responsible for our lowly place in football then I dont think hes in the top 5. What would have happened if he hadnt pushed for KK? We'll never know but Im guessing it wouldnt have resulted in the dream years we had. By that logic we may never have ended up with Robson at all and therefore he couldnt have treat him the way he did. His treatment of SBR was despicable but like I say his one "good action" overall raises his position (for me).

Surely it shouldnt be the amount spent on its own but the percentage of the total spend of the Premiership for that year? Or their position in the "spending league" does it mirror the position in the actual one? Did the biggest spenders finish top and the lowest spenders bottom?

Im not sure Id have Douggy up there in the top 5. As much as I think hes taken money for nothing and been an embaressment and as much as I dislike him as a person, this is still the man who is credited with the actual decision to employ Keegan. That for me bungs his standing up considerably.

I doubt she likes it now, its merely a way for her to kick men in the nads.

Loosely translates to..... Dear God! Nooooo Chris, dont sell Alan I'll not get paid!!!!!!!

I thimk our favourite makem hasnt quite worked out just who O'Neill was having a pop at, it wasnt the internet or the "hi-tech mischief makers" but the likes of herself, the football journalists too lazy to find out the real stories who just write any old bilge they find on the logic that one in 10 of the stories could be true and they end up with a scoop. boo! Can you imagine the amount of online abuse that project would get?

Surely any journalist prostituting himself to be controversial purely for the sake of it, by definition has no self respect? Patrick Barclay, now there was a cunt of a journalist if ever I argued with one. Threw his toys out of the pram when I dared question an article he wrote and proceeded to throw insults such as "You are representative of an age in which the reader thinks he knows as much as the writer." nobheads all of them, well almost all. Disappointed you cut that one loose tbh. As for your last sentence, I can happily read stuff by George Culkin, Henry Winter and, to some extent, Simon Bird. The rest are much of a muchness. Pretty much the names I was thinking too. Might have to follow Mr Barclay avidly over the next few weeks to see if I can restart the old lunatic off again I wonder if hes still reading this place? Eh? Paddy? are ya?

Best wishes Sir J.

Surely any journalist prostituting himself to be controversial purely for the sake of it, by definition has no self respect? Patrick Barclay, now there was a cunt of a journalist if ever I argued with one. Threw his toys out of the pram when I dared question an article he wrote and proceeded to throw insults such as "You are representative of an age in which the reader thinks he knows as much as the writer." nobheads all of them, well almost all.

WTF is that? jeeeez way to sell yourself Mick

However we're losing £500k per week according to the same journalists. So that additional £40m will only put you £14m in the black. So how is it feasible to pay out £20m on players and £20m to Fatty? That would put you £26m in debt wouldnt it? Ergo, we pay £20m off the debt and end up £6m further in the cack??? Im no accountant but my breath is baited waiting to see how that ones recorded on the balance sheet

If you're going to implement a wage cap though then you have to get rid of the likes of Smith and Butt. How can you ever hope to attract young talent and first team regulars on £15-£20k when they'll see the likes of Butt warming the bench and making coffee getting £10k more than you? Even if they do sign up, it will do nothing for the team harmony we all hear being bandied about.

Now Golf courses, thats a different matter EDIT: I still say that for articles such as this toss we should copy and paste but not put a link in, its the hits theyre after and all we do by providing them is give more reason to write this shite.

Without making any kind of joke about a tragedy, this is the worst bit, 3 weeks in Stoke, I shudder at the concept.

Jesus Wept Bridge gis a shout pet, thats criminal!

What was the final story with the lad who died at Stoke mate? I never really heard anything more after that weekend.

On a slightly related note, did anyone else groan and think "here we go again" when fatty took his top off to court that picture on Monday night?

In a normal world with other chairmen Id read that as being 20-25m available for players and would be happy. With this lot it could mean that or it could mean £20-25m spent including wages for the season or even more possible with them it could be a total operating budget of £25m. Its very ambiguious if, there is even a shred of truth in the story. Not sure how they can see an additional £10m depending on attendances though seeing as how we've been hitting 43k+ this season and a chunk of the ST money has already been received (and spent).

hmmm Ive had a search through it and cant find any post referring to that?

exactly, nothing to be gained from that lie....... unless of course you were trousering the gate receipts from the 2k. Im not saying thats the case btw, as I said I could clearly see what would amount to hundreds of empty seats just within my eyeline.

Will be interesting to see the difference in that section between yesterday and the first game next season. its been empty all season tbh.