luckyluke

Choosing to follow Jesus or not is not the same as choosing to believe he (god) exists. Btw I'm atheist as they come

You clearly have no concept of faith whatsoever, do you?

What isn't true? You either have faith or you don't. You don't choose to have it.

I think people with faith don't see their belief as a choice, (hence large numbers of gay Christians, even Catholics - why don't they just choose not to believe what they believe if their church despises them?) despite however you matter-of-factly you dismiss it. Feel like I'm going to have to get the crayons out soon.

The abuse CT gets on here. Brock's speech therapy bird says it might be possible (which is all he was really asking) and you lot fall over yourselves to call him a stupid fat cunt for even entertaining it as a possibility. I know he's a Tory but give the guy a break!

I didn't say it was natural. I said some people couldn't help it. You're letting your own hatred of religion getting in the way a bit here. Most people who are Christian (especially in this country, which is who we're talking about) are so because they were raised as such by their parents. Not due to an evil urge to indoctrinate their children, but because they believe it is the right thing to do, no matter how much you and I might disagree. Some of these keep their faith, and some of them turn out to be gay. Speak to any of them and I bet they'll regard their faith as central a part of who they are as their sexuality, and that neither is something they can change at will.

There was a news item fairl recently about a Catholic Church (in Soho I think) stopping its services for gay people. Why anyone would to go to one in the first place was beyond me. The answer is that some people can't help having faith any more than they can be gay. I imagine that gay Christians simply choose not to believe the part of the Bible that describes homosexuality as a sin. The problem with the whole gay/church thing is the idea that "the rules" on man love are set in stone as determined by the bible and can never be changed.

WEEZ GANNA WIN THE (Europa) LEAGUE

Love it Not sure "Williamson" scans in very well, maybe just "Willo"?

Two fucking games guys.

Shearer scored one against West Brom 2002ish after a layoff from Nobby I think.

I do love a good indirect free kick in the box, the goalmouth packed with all 11 of the defending team who charge out after the first touch like Allied soldiers on the D-Day landings.

I'm not certain it would change a lot, particularly if it was ran by referees/the FA who seem to mostly support their colleagues decisions. I saw Dermot Gallagher on SSN last season reviewing incidents from the weekend and he was giving it the 'contact' line to justify the ref giving a penalty where Dzecko reacted as if the light tap of boot on shin pad was a sledgehammer to his knackers. I wonder if Owen's had a talking to from Pulis btw - previously very light on his feet by his own admission, he was very outspoken against diving last year and gets up straight away from that tasty but fair tackle from Arterta.

I agree. Fake celebrity sums it up, Tulisa and Danny, like a Z-list Posh and Becks.

I do feel sorry for Ba tbh. No goals, a defeat and a smashed hooter. Apart from an own goal, missing a penalty or a red card (although I'd probably take on of those over facial disfigurement), I can't imagine a worse return to a former club.

You get a takeaway, but only get some for your wife if the toon win? Harsh!

Tidy finish against Villa and just needed a bit more on some of his efforts against Chelsea to have scored. He'll pick up and get better but he won't do so the bench.

Agreed, an all too a familiar rant. Maybe getting filled in outside a kebab house will teach him a lesson!

Having said all that, half a dozen pints and a glass of red and I feel awful this morning. flat's a tip but all I want to do is lie on the sofa... fuck it, I think I will!

Absolutely nothing doing there, but I wouldn't be surprised if Owen was banned sadly.

Bale is a beast of a player, almost literally, he looks like the missing Neanderthal link. We need Tiote to shut him out.

I'd only just woken up earlier, deserves more than just a smilie. :lol:

Drunk man ends up lying in the street bleeding after minor disagreement in a queue, while onlookers video him which the nation's highest selling paper pays money for. This fucking country.

Fuck that. I turned 28 a few weeks ago and a lot of people said things like "oooh, not getting any younger now" which is bollocks as 1. Nobody gets younger so it's a completely redundant phrase 2. 28 is still quite young anyway. I'm young enough to be the son of most people I work with, for example. Don't waste your youth moaning about how old you are.