Kevin Carr's Gloves

Unfortunately I have heard sewing machine similie includes the size of the needle too.

RIP Steve. He was an absolute star and will be missed by all animal lovers the world over.

My ony hope s that Titus breaks Bellamy's knee. Other than that we will get spanked like an accountant at a whore house.

I have been considering this takeover talk for some time. I would like to at this time say I hate FFS. I have always wondered how a consortium were expecting to make money from NUFC. They are a hedge fund and that is their raison d'etre. Then I heard something on radio 5 when listening to the Argentina / Brazil game. They were talking about the Tevez / Javier signings for West Ham. They were talking about how in South America sometimes the clubs didnt own the registrations for the palyers. In some cases they had sold them to finance companies to raise money. It was at this point a thought struck me. Would it be possible for a company to take over at NUFC. Sell all of the players to a second arm of it's finance corp at a severely reduced rate. Then Divest itself of the club recouping most of it's outlay but sitting with approx 80 Million pounds (Guestimate including all players) worth of players it can sell to anyone at anytime? Maybe the accountants can fill me in on this.

Still 8/1 looks an even better bet now

Can't see where I am being blinkered, in fact I think the majority of people on here who seem either oblivious to the financial position of the club - through a lack of intelligence or just because they are deluded enough to think we can just spend what we like - are the blinkered ones. And for what its worth, as a squad player for a small fee Sibierski is alright - bearing in mind again our budget - whereas my main worry is Martins because if he flops, that is another 10m quid down the plug, and this is the type of signing who has created the position that we are in now ie Luque, Boumsong, and many others before those over previous years. 190617[/snapback] Nobody is oblivious to the financial position of the club. Nobody is saying we only spent £15m, why not more. What we're saying is, why not spend the £15m more prudently? That's a question Freddy Shepherd should be asking too. But prudent spending robs him of his Hollywood signings and requires him to actually put some hard graft in helping his manager to establish a transfer plan. Why do that when you can fly by the seat of your pants and then just say "One thing you can't level at us is that we're boring." He actually thinks that this is an asset of ours ffs!? 190624[/snapback] Ok Gem, we'll go and buy 7 x 2m pound players, and see where that gets you, if you dont' want "hollywood" signings .... plenty of those over at the SOS mate. 190675[/snapback] Sorin, Campbell, Trabelsi, Roberts - that's £2.5m for ya. Leazes, seeing that we're the 5th best club in the country, would anything less than 5th this season be seen as a failure of Freddie, or of Roeder? 190692[/snapback] Wouldn't touch Campbell. Jason Roberts for 2.5m ? I don't think so. Anyway, I think I have stated that I believe the club's main problem was up front, and has been addressed. Of course, if shithead Luque had justified his fee, it wouldn't have been so important. Time to let some clueless fookwits on here to agree with each other I think ..... 190699[/snapback] So if Martins doesn't work out who will you blame. When a company underperforms year on year you must look at the top management of that company and that is FFS. You right about there being at least one clueless fookwits on here though. Although I have only seen one.

possibly not, but with a smalll squad, and having already shelled out 15-16m quid. Thats the point. We knew, or should have done, that the Souness legacy was this, or at least some of us said so. We would be better off if Bellamy and Robert were still here, agreed ? And considering he wanted them out so desperately we got 4m quid for the 2 of them, who can possibly defend THAT ? 189826[/snapback] You do understand the Chairmen has to OK all sales right. Souness didn't do it behind the fat ones back. 189832[/snapback] you do understand that chairman are supposed to allow their managers to run the playing side of the club, right ? So, if he DID veto any transfers on playing grounds, which appears to be what you are indicating you want, you would have a lot to say wouldn't you ? Seriously, I have my doubts, it seems the vast amount of people on here don't seem to understand this ..... nor the financial state of the club, mostly brought about by the last manager, despite it being as clear as the glass in front of your face. 190603[/snapback] In any business it is commonplace for the head of the business to have final say on major investments. In some cases that investment is their idea. In others not.Responsible management dictates that this has to happen. Responsible chairmen also employ responsible and well qualified staff. That is their duty, not only to the business but to the shareholders. He has failed on both counts. I accept he needs to give managers the ability to decide but he has gone into this issue far too recklessly and it is absolutely nobodies fault bit his own that the 'bottomless pit' is no more. 190614[/snapback] He hasn't failed. We have been the 5th top club in the country over the past decade, and appeared regularly in europe, filling the ground, and buying major international players. There are 86 clubs who have done worse than us, including one 12 miles down the road. Since this board took over this club in 1992 they have picked it up and established it back to one of the top clubs in the country. Fact. I'm not interested in stupid skyboy type views. 190671[/snapback] Again the since 1992 crap. FFS took over in 1997 and has presided over the worst of the since 1992 times. Honestly LM the more you go on the bigger joke you become.

I think Roeder got the job by swallowing Shepherds pride and joy.

Yes. Folsom Prison Blues.

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Q1 Why? Q2 Which Muslim was she going to marry cos it sure wasn't Dodi? 188803[/snapback] 1) Serious? 2) Illegitimate kids ahoy \o/ 188890[/snapback] Means nowt So what nothing to do with royal family. Would have got her off their back and ruined her popularity amongst royalist types anyway. 188926[/snapback] Probably the most naive thing I have ever read. Kudos 189764[/snapback] The royal family would have loved her to have an Asian baby. It would have driven her so far from the publics mind it was all they could have hoped for. I read some guy saying it woukld have been embarrasing to have an Asian in line for the throne. Newsflash. It wouldnt have been. I would be in line for the throne before it would have. The spencers had no claim to the throne whatsoever and it wouldn't have been a windsor. I once met in Germany a guy who was the crown prionce of sax coburg gotha nice guy made everyone call him Steffan. He would have had our throne before any offspring of Di and whoever. 189819[/snapback] Did you snap your fingers in front of your face when you typed that? 189827[/snapback] Yes and in my head said girlfriend. Talk to the hand.

possibly not, but with a smalll squad, and having already shelled out 15-16m quid. Thats the point. We knew, or should have done, that the Souness legacy was this, or at least some of us said so. We would be better off if Bellamy and Robert were still here, agreed ? And considering he wanted them out so desperately we got 4m quid for the 2 of them, who can possibly defend THAT ? 189826[/snapback] You do understand the Chairmen has to OK all sales right. Souness didn't do it behind the fat ones back.

Q1 Why? Q2 Which Muslim was she going to marry cos it sure wasn't Dodi? 188803[/snapback] 1) Serious? 2) Illegitimate kids ahoy \o/ 188890[/snapback] Means nowt So what nothing to do with royal family. Would have got her off their back and ruined her popularity amongst royalist types anyway. 188926[/snapback] Probably the most naive thing I have ever read. Kudos 189764[/snapback] The royal family would have loved her to have an Asian baby. It would have driven her so far from the publics mind it was all they could have hoped for. I read some guy saying it woukld have been embarrasing to have an Asian in line for the throne. Newsflash. It wouldnt have been. I would be in line for the throne before it would have. The spencers had no claim to the throne whatsoever and it wouldn't have been a windsor. I once met in Germany a guy who was the crown prionce of sax coburg gotha nice guy made everyone call him Steffan. He would have had our throne before any offspring of Di and whoever.

don't be stupid. We backed Souness to the hilt, selling players he shouldn't for peanuts, and buying players for big money, which a lot of people said we should do to "give him his own team". Well, it failed. Those who said he should support Souness were wrong. How much money exactly do you think we should throw at managers ? How many other clubs have thrown 16m quid this summer for starters ? Roeder may well be the fall guy, but whoever we got would be paying the price for Souness's stupidity, and those who said we should back him and so agreed with Shepherd in that matter are just as stupid. 189661[/snapback] i don't know how you can defend him after yet another farce. the sad thing was how predictable it all was. i think i predicted a couple of panic buys a few weeks back but i didn't imagine even shepherd could fuck it up this much. no new defenders? antoine sibierksi? you're having a laugh mate 189691[/snapback] Defend who ? For handing his managers another 16m quid ? You don't have much idea do you 189717[/snapback] running a club isn't about spending a fortune on players you don't need. it's about budgeting money so that your manager is able to build a squad, not half a side of crocked or shite trophy signings. i take it you're happy with our current defence and our new signing sibierksi? 189721[/snapback] you said it yourself, "the manager is able to build a squad"...if you are not happy with the signings this summer, why are you blaming Shepherd ? Don't you think 16m quid is a canny bit of money, I think its a hell of a risk actually, after the Souness era. As for "Trophy Signings" ... where did you get this cliche if you don't want trophy, quality signings, go and support the mackems or one of the shite teams, who don't make "trophy" or quality signings..... priceless. Talk about not having a mind of your own .... trotting out the current buzz word, dear me. 189727[/snapback] you don't think shepherd has any infulence over our transfer window (lack of) strategy? how naive. i'm pretty sure sibierski wasn't at the top of the shopping list roder gave ff at the beginning of the summer. but yet again, the fat twat waits until the last possible minute and we end up with the best panic buy EVER. so remind me what you think of our defence going into the new season? 189735[/snapback] No, I don't think the chairman picks who to buy and sell, I think only a complete fuckwit and someone who hasn't got a mind of their own believes such shite. Are you happy with the money spent this summer and last summer ? If you are not, please tell us how many clubs have matched this, and who ? BTW, you amuse me. You would certainly have been one of the 30,000 fickle fuckers who disappeared when we really were shite, if regular European football and top quality international footballers isn;'t enough for you. There have been plenty of average nobodies playing 12 miles down the road since 1992 if that is what you prefer. 189745[/snapback] The bit in bold is clutching at straws. When an argument has been successfully dismantled if the protagonist wishes to continue with it they will be reduced to slander. LM I absolutely agreed with you on Souness he was a dreadful manager. However he was always going to be that. He had been a dreadful manager everywhere. So who appointed him. Your protestations and support of the man who has been in charge for some time do you credit on some levels however let us look at your arguments. You say we are much better now than in 1992 when the current management took over. A misrepresentation of the facts. In 1992 SJH took over and was chairman and led us through our greatest recent period. SJH stood down in 19996 and Shepherd took over. The downfall started soon after. It is my argument that Shepherd is to blame for where we are. For mismanaging funds for bad appointments. For bad crisis management. It is in crisis that real leadership stands out. And it's about time Shepherd stood out. Preferrably outside SJP never to return

Don't try and rationalise. If you do you will think of great excuses for the f*cknutts in charge and convince yourself they are doing a great job. Better to go with gut instinct and hound them out of the club.

This club which I love is great. The f*cking c*nty f*ckwits in charge of it I f*cking detest with a passion. Antoine f*cking sibierski is a c*nt and can f*ck off the useless piece of sh*t. Freddy Shepherd can die of a f*cking heart attack Roeder can p*ss off and be a complete waste of space f*cking yes man at some other f*cking club and the sooner the f*ck Halls p*ss off into the sunset and get done for tax evasion the better. C*nts the lot of them.

Q1 Why? Q2 Which Muslim was she going to marry cos it sure wasn't Dodi? 188803[/snapback] 1) Serious? 2) Illegitimate kids ahoy \o/ 188890[/snapback] Means nowt So what nothing to do with royal family. Would have got her off their back and ruined her popularity amongst royalist types anyway.

Worth a punt I think.

He scored 7 Prem goals last season..... Good keep the f*cker.

We offered them Milner and cash for the fat one????? I am off to cry.

You can do it if you do the six reverse of how you normally do it.

Q1 Why? Q2 Which Muslim was she going to marry cos it sure wasn't Dodi?

Yes.