Kevin Carr's Gloves

Dan you clueless twat, Viduka's heritage is croatian Australian! Your lot didn't get the chance to deport them for stealing bread. you're australian? that explains a lot Probably but your being english still doesn't explain why you're such a clueless twat. Croatian Australian? If it was me I would be chomping at the bit to play for my mother country, not some sand ridden backwater. You know Mark Twain once said "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt". In your case it is too late to heed this advice. You know Hulk Hogan once said "winners don't do drugs", I bet in real life you're just as much of a preachy hypocritical wanker as he was. In fact I know it, Mark Twain just texted me to confirm it, while also disassociating himself from you and withdrawing any implicit attribution rights to his intellectual property he may have inadvertantly led you to believe you had. And he also said that he has had your mam. I hate to labour the point but every tap of your computer keyboard just seems to spell the phrase "I am a twat" over and over again. Had your mam lol.

Dan you clueless twat, Viduka's heritage is croatian Australian! Your lot didn't get the chance to deport them for stealing bread. you're australian? that explains a lot Probably but your being english still doesn't explain why you're such a clueless twat. Croatian Australian? If it was me I would be chomping at the bit to play for my mother country, not some sand ridden backwater. You know Mark Twain once said "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt". In your case it is too late to heed this advice.

I am English.

Shit

Talksport commentary is painful to hear.

Off topic but I have decided to call talksport next week and tell them my name is Casey Gee.

IYou get me wrong I want to listen but don't want to jinx it. Ok I will listen you have all spoken (both of you). If we lose it's not my fault.

I am at work and have the opportunity to listen to the game on the radio. However I am exceedingly pessimistic coupled with the fact that Newcastles record when I am listening to them on the radio is Horrendous. I don't have the exact figures but believe me on this. So do I listen or do I wait for MOTD? You decide.

Again, this is the short-termism I was talking about with regards to the unions. Yes Thatcher's monetary policy coupled with the strengthening of the pound was going to cause unemployment, nowhere more so than where I'm from, but the economy was already in a poor state as it was. There was no quick fix to the problems that Thatcher faced but I'm glad she was there to stick to her guns and see it through, she was definetly the right personality at the right time. I'm not completely naive enough to say that the unions weren't a problem. However destroying their power completely by destroying their industries was not a sensible approach. There are plenty stories about how bad british leyland was in terms of the unions but it was the management that let them get away with it. Other countries, notably Germany, rode out the bad times while keeping core industries because they knew how important they were. Thatcher sold any money making ones to her cronies in the cities and watched the north burn with no regard for its future. Was reducing union power worth the price? In hindsight with the economic state the country is now, of course. She laid the foundations with, some say brutal, immediate measures. We are in the shit. We make nothing we rely on a service industry which is deserting britain for India. We have only held on by selling the countries gold. We are facing a huge recession the foundations of which were lain in the short term financial gain culture of thatcherism.

It was Moyes who got MotM. Shit I hope the Makems dont win then.

Again, this is the short-termism I was talking about with regards to the unions. Yes Thatcher's monetary policy coupled with the strengthening of the pound was going to cause unemployment, nowhere more so than where I'm from, but the economy was already in a poor state as it was. There was no quick fix to the problems that Thatcher faced but I'm glad she was there to stick to her guns and see it through, she was definetly the right personality at the right time. Talk about short termism she only just managed to claw some form of semblance with the short term objective of getting money by selling the utilities.

Rafa got manager of the month and Torres player. Hope the curse is good today.

Not as front line as Harry. Def didnt kill anyone.

Was alright. Dont know why they f*cked about with the story so much though.

A culture of striking had been developing in Britain prior to the winter of discontent, this was allowed to happen because of the powers given to the unions, Thatcher didn't remove the right to strike for many trades but made it a slower and more regulated process. If Thatcher had've been in power I don't think the situation would have got to the point that it did in 1979, whatever way you look at it the unions were bad for the British economy and needed taking down a peg or two. I couldn't disagree more. I would say what has always been bad for the british economy has been the way it has been run. And Thatcher was one of the worst. Millions of unemployed in Britain speaks volumes for a conservative government. I remember a Chancellor saying that High unemloyment was an acceptable price to pay for low inflation which they didn't always manage anyway. As per normal the right wing revisionists look at the relatively small amount of good done over the misery poured onto Britain during her premiership. Remember she was lower in the polls than a snakes arse in a ditch before she goaded Argentina into invading the Falklands.

There was no bigger yank puppet than thatcher. Thatcher did many things wrong, but if anyone was the poodle in the UK/US relationship with her and Reagan, it was Reagan (she got him to back down over several major things and led him like a bull with a nose ring on several others). Unlike Blair with Bush, who wasn't just his poodle, but was happy enough to slip into a gimp suit for Bush when asked (and is about to start lecturing on "how to be a religious nutter for profit" in the USA soon, Blair that is). Name them? However she was quite happy for him to use our bases for military incursions. Falklands for one where she convinced Reagan to go against every US advisor and US policy maker in the end, but there were several others as well. Where as your example of "allowing" Reagan were likely policies she agreed on in the first place. As I said Blair is a perfect example of a US poodle or gimp (and maybe now with his religious nutterdom coming out into the public domain we maybe see why), but Thatcher whatever else you can accuser her of (and there are many things) was not, she probably exercised more control over US policy that anyone but a serving President ever has. To do what??? I suggest you read up on the whole Falklands conflict (it being a pretty integral part of Thatchers time it's pretty much required reading), but basically much US policy, politicians and public opinion were largely against helping the UK in any way (in fact they were broadly pretty much for hindering it). Not to mention that even after UK forces had landed and were clearly winning Reagan tried to get Thatcher allow the Argentinians to withdraw (to save face, fearing the collapse of the Junta and therefore US interest in Argentina) and a 3rd party "peacekeeping" force to be deploy, to which Thatcher gave him a verbal mauling over (the fabled "handbagging" I guess ) and told him no way. As I said if anything Reagan was much more Thatchers poodle than she ever was his, and again as I said she probably exercised more control over US policy than any one person but a serving President ever has. Which books? What help??

There was no bigger yank puppet than thatcher. Thatcher did many things wrong, but if anyone was the poodle in the UK/US relationship with her and Reagan, it was Reagan (she got him to back down over several major things and led him like a bull with a nose ring on several others). Unlike Blair with Bush, who wasn't just his poodle, but was happy enough to slip into a gimp suit for Bush when asked (and is about to start lecturing on "how to be a religious nutter for profit" in the USA soon, Blair that is). Name them? However she was quite happy for him to use our bases for military incursions. Falklands for one where she convinced Reagan to go against every US advisor and US policy maker in the end, but there were several others as well. Where as your example of "allowing" Reagan were likely policies she agreed on in the first place. As I said Blair is a perfect example of a US poodle or gimp (and maybe now with his religious nutterdom coming out into the public domain we maybe see why), but Thatcher whatever else you can accuser her of (and there are many things) was not, she probably exercised more control over US policy that anyone but a serving President ever has. To do what???

There was no bigger yank puppet than thatcher. Thatcher did many things wrong, but if anyone was the poodle in the UK/US relationship with her and Reagan, it was Reagan (she got him to back down over several major things and led him like a bull with a nose ring on several others). Unlike Blair with Bush, who wasn't just his poodle, but was happy enough to slip into a gimp suit for Bush when asked (and is about to start lecturing on "how to be a religious nutter for profit" in the USA soon, Blair that is). Name them? However she was quite happy for him to use our bases for military incursions. Falklands for one where she convinced Reagan to go against every US advisor and US policy maker in the end, but there were several others as well. Where as your example of "allowing" Reagan were likely policies she agreed on in the first place. As I said Blair is a perfect example of a US poodle or gimp (and maybe now with his religious nutterdom coming out into the public domain we maybe see why), but Thatcher whatever else you can accuser her of (and there are many things) was not, she probably exercised more control over US policy that anyone but a serving President ever has. Blair catholic. Bush WASP.

Complete and utter bollocks. How so? It was the power of the unions and their short-termism that ended up bringing Callaghan down and was causing huge levels of inflation. Taking on the unions and reducing their power was one of the best things Thatcher did during her premiership. Winter of miscontent 1979 miners strike 1984 Nothing really between. After This it took over a decade for workers to achiev a semblance of rights at work. All she wanted to do was give her friends free reign to make a huge profit and treat workers however they wished with impunity. The unions would have become less powerful if workers had better indiidual rights without the need to join a union. it is down to this lack of comparity that the unions flourished to end practices which for example resulted in deaths at work in many places.

There was no bigger yank puppet than thatcher. Thatcher did many things wrong, but if anyone was the poodle in the UK/US relationship with her and Reagan, it was Reagan (she got him to back down over several major things and led him like a bull with a nose ring on several others). Unlike Blair with Bush, who wasn't just his poodle, but was happy enough to slip into a gimp suit for Bush when asked (and is about to start lecturing on "how to be a religious nutter for profit" in the USA soon, Blair that is). Name them? However she was quite happy for him to use our bases for military incursions.

Complete and utter bollocks.

Got to agree with Stevie for once on this. neville has not had the obstacles of either Anderson or Armfield. And Anderson couldn't perform in europe consistently because of the murdering bin dippers.

There was no bigger yank puppet than thatcher.

Yes her policies have reaped dividends. Her rampant privatisation has caused the costs of utilities enormously high although check out all the tory politicians who have made a lot of money out of them. Her policy of looking after Pinochet enabled him to continue to murder hundreds. Her policy of backing the USA have made the former soviet union what it is today and of course added to the situation in the middle east. Her wish to antagonise Argentina into invading the Falkland Islands led to further hundreds of deaths but fortuinately Dennis Thatchers company made millions out of building and maintaining the new Falklands airfield. Her policy on council houses have helped cause the current housing shortage. So yes you're right she has had a great effect on current life.

i went out a drunk a lil too much but still wishing something like that onto someone like her is going a little too far Am I allowed to wish I could pull her eyes out of her sockets and piss in the holes?