sammya

It was offside easily. Struggling to care but it was offside.

Probably because he scored against Newcastle, doesn't play for a "big" club, and is "quality, vastly underrated player." Certainly isn't imo. All he's got is a belter of a left boot tbh. 121850[/snapback] wahey. someone agrees with me he isn't that hot. Goals are of course useful but the rest of his game is lacking. Watch him score against us today now

i think every team can say that though. I'll give you the B'burn one though as pederson's punch was absolutely ridiculous. How he managed to avoid stick for that i don't know.

how many managers have you been linked with now? My last count makes it 2389563 but i may have missed a couple

i'm not a lazy london journo though. I don't think Bellamy was this prolific at newcastle. he was a good player but he didn't carry the level of goal threat he does now.

My brother's a Liverpool fan, he feels he's too error-prone to make it, and he's not one to write players off quickly. I watch Liverpool quite a bit, I reckon he's a quality Amady Faye. 121690[/snapback] no higher compliment

you did get Owen to be fair. I could be wrong as you saw way more of him than I did, but bellamy is playing consistently to a higher level for B'burn than he was for newcastle and considereing he was a trouble maker maybe it didn't seem the worst idea at the time. He's now turning into the player i always thought that he should be but was never going to reach

like i said earlier in the thread i really rate this lad. We were meant to have an arrangement with Le Harve which meant we got their good young players. Gutted he slipped through. Having said that he probably wouldn't have played for us that much and thus not developed Certainly does a better job than Parker does in ball-winning, although they both get their share of cards. I do think he should improve his passing though, but certainly an underrated player, considering his age. 121648[/snapback] agree on all of that. Sometimes his quality on the ball can be a bit lacking (i think he only gives it away sometimes so he can win it back ) and his shooting is poop but that's not what he's there for. He's only recently 21 so it's frightening to think how good he may become.

indeed he is. i'm not sure those who disagree have actually seen him. In 2 years when the media catch up with just how good he is then no doubt he'll be praised then. He'll only be 23 then

I think your man N'zogbia is class. Lennon has played well whenever i've seen him tbf. Sissoko not being on there is a shocker. Don't think fabregas has been good for the whole season. Davis can feel aggrieved.

I've been telling my spurs mate for ages they'd get 4th and arsenal would win it. Be funny as fuck. I don't think arsenal were bad today by a long stretch. They were two good teams out there. Obviously I wanted the mancs to lose but stuff it they're out of reach after today

I don't know if fulham would have released him but weren't you reportedly after Boa Morte. I think he would have been a great LW. I wanted him at Liverpool at one stage. Anyway I like that N'zogbia kid a lot so apart from the money you wasted you won't miss luque that much

I'll give you that Woodgate transfer. I'd forgotten when it was. It was about 9mil wasn't it? With ridsale in charge you could have got him for about £2mill though He was an idiot. But my initial point was that I think you do back your managers with cash. I don't think investment is the problem. But he's the chairman. He's the leader. It's his job to make the tough calls, he can't blame the fans. But if you sack the manager after a couple of games it means that season's budget has been spent and the manager hasn't had a pre-season to sort it out. It's also an admission you got the wrong guy in the first place. Either Shepherd appointed the wrong guy or got the sacking wrong. Either way you can hardly call it stunning leadership. I don't know who you should appoint but i know there are good managers out there. I don't know whether you went for Le Guen or not but it looks like Rangers for him. This Hitzfeld campaign is a bit funny because from what i can work out about 4 Newcastle supporters keep texing and emailing loads of different shows demanding him. I'm not too close to it though and I could be wrong so tell me if i am. Personally I think if you get O'neill you'll get back to being a real force. Idon't know if you want him or he wants you. I can't see why you wouldn't be interested in each other though. You've got a base though a really good base. Mind you you did when you appointed Souness too. And I don't know why on earth there would be a -ve reaction to Houllier who won lots at Liverpool and is running away with the french league and shouls have beaten AC milan to get into the semis. Each to their own though. You won't find me ever saying we got every decision correct. I wouldn't bother because it's patently untrue. There's no point sticking up for a failing regime. Always give credit where it's due and criticism where it's due, unless they're paying you. I think the guy who won two spanish titles against Barca, depor and Real Madrid, won the Uefa cup then the European Cup in his first year with a group of players not his own and is on course to get 80points in his second season may just do alright. Call it a hunch.

Not surprised tbh. I doubt he was that good in Spain. 117907[/snapback] The lad had talent. I don't know what you've done to him though. I didn't get why he was leaving depor when they'd just beaten you in the Intertoto. I'm not convinced his heart was ever in it.

Yeah i forgot how bad Babayaro is whenever i see him. Maybe i just catch the wrong games and he's good for you the rest of the time. Is that the case? As for the rest of it, obviously you'd be better if you had better players, i'm not gonna disagree, I just think you've got a good enough base there to add a cb and a striker and be a good side. But before worrying about the money i'd worry about the manager that's all. It just seemed like Solano in that snippet was running away with himself

Looking from outside in I think Shepherd's failed you in the handling of managers. Why sack Dalglish and Robson about 2-3 games into a season. That's ridiculous on so many levels. Why appoint Souness? He does always seem to find the money to back the managers though well he has recently anyway. One thing I've never understood though is why you only brought in Bowyer on a free in 2003 after you'd just finished third. i would have thought you would have consolidated. Obviously as a liverpool fan i'm glad you didn't as we were both so dreadful the next season but somehow we managed to finish 4th and you 5th That's all by the by though. Basically i think you need a top manager before you start worrying about more cash to spend. Most of the teams above you haven't got the talent in the squad that you have.

I don't think you need investment half as much as you need the right manager. You've got good players. If that lad taylor ever comes back and can avoid that sniper in the villa crowd that's half of your most troublesome position sorted. You could do with another striker I spose even if Owen stays.

He 's exactly the sort of player you should be looking to to replace shearer if you want like for like. Hope you don't get him

We almost signed him from Auxerre. It would have been a free transfer mind and he may have been decnt if he joined us but still... *shudder*

It doesn't. It just makes you look like fans of your own club. I don't buy this wanting all english teams to do well in europe. I fucking loathe Man U, Everton and Chelsea and hope they get twatted on every ocassion. If Boro are your rivals then why would you want them to do well.It's not as if they'll let you join in the celebrations. Having said that once boro went 3-0 down i really wanted them to win because it would mean it was a hell of a gam and one of my mates is a boro supporter.

ah alright then. I would have thought the new man would have his own ideas. Especially about players with a decent profile. I spose your scouts have to do something to justify their existence right know. They'd be better off finding unknowns like that N'zogbia kid was. he looks class. i've seen him about 6-7 times and he was quite good. Ugly as sin mind.

I was hoping we (liverpool) would get him. How can you be looking to buy players when you don't know who your manager is going to be?

Traore's a Malian international but he thanks you for his promotion. He also thanks you for his promotion to "useless". Cisse will do alright for someone. Anyway my proposition is redundant as Shephard says Owen's staying and he's a man you'd trust with your life.

We'll take £27m + Traore, our money back on Owen plus £10m for taking Traore off your hands, "He can't, he can't, he can't, he can't, he can't, he can't control his feet!". 116757[/snapback] but you'll take traore? that's the main thing

I'm a Liverpool fan. Can we have him back now please. Do you lot even like him. Go on, we'll give you Traore.