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not on an iPhone inbetween fares!!! But how do you think fred would have coped. We were already declining and fred would have just kept throwing good money after bad without any personal wealth to inject working capital. If we'd managed to stay up the wage bill would be even higher. Truly fucked IMO Are you just going to keep changing the subject now you've tucked yourself in? I haven't even mentioned Shepherd. All you seem to be saying though is Ashley is good because there's an alternative scenario whereby Shepherd and the Halls could have gotten us into a worse state. I don't know how they'd have coped but they wouldn't have made a profit last January had we been we in a similar position with the old board in charge. Also, the noises coming out the club when they appointed Allardyce seemed to suggest they'd realised we were going to have to hold off on the spending a bit in any case. Most people were reasonably pleased with Allardyce only because it seemed he was an appropriate choice to work with a smaller budget (in the short to medium term anyway). Accurate. These blind anti-Halls and Shepherd comments will never cease.....shame because sometimes people make good posts until they start this sort of thing. You confuse some realism on their era with being anti..... They have given be by best times supporting Newcastle however the rot / slide had already started well before Ashley arrived. All too often when a business goes bust, there is a recent history of the owner throwing money down the drain trying to re-capture the good times. This is what I think Freddy would have done ON TOP of the 130 million or so black hole that was there when Ashley arrived. More depressingly is where football is at the moment. Its like an out of control train that no one can get off. I would love to be able to imagine a swift return to challenging for Europe but there are just so many obstacles and so much money needed these days. Look at Sunderland. A good chairman, a wealthy owner, a manager who should have been a vast improvement for them and better players than they have had for years. Yet its still turned to shit. Sad days in Football.

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no, shepherd just kept on borrowing and spending and getting us further into debt. The halls probably saw were all this was heading hence their sharpe exit. I would also love to think there is a third type of owner out their who had the full package and is just waiting to buy us. Events that are unfolding be it at Pompey, qpr or anfield will only deter future investment. The best we can hope for is that Ashley can see the sense in getting a good football man in to replace llambias and slowly rebuild from the ashes

I truly believe he did come into this for "a bit of fun" and that his intentions and initial actions were good. He is the typical rich boy buying a good boozer and fucking it up. None of this takes away from the fact that had fat fred still been in charge during this further decline and financial crisis I think we would be royally fucked. Which initial actions were good? appointing mort, listenting to vans views and re-acting as in family section and singing sections. Trying to put some structure into the club....

not on an iPhone inbetween fares!!! But how do you think fred would have coped. We were already declining and fred would have just kept throwing good money after bad without any personal wealth to inject working capital. If we'd managed to stay up the wage bill would be even higher. Truly fucked IMO

I truly believe he did come into this for "a bit of fun" and that his intentions and initial actions were good. He is the typical rich boy buying a good boozer and fucking it up. None of this takes away from the fact that had fat fred still been in charge during this further decline and financial crisis I think we would be royally fucked.

I only made the points about big wages because you were making a point about Ashley being the owner we needed, i.e. from a financial viewpoint, insinuating (it would seem) he was putting the club right even though all the big wage earners are on contracts he approved. Again, I'm sure you got all that but pretended otherwise. I see the point your making.

as evident by his results?...no by the way he got us playing?...no so what then? As evident by a chain of events that have lead to today.

I think it's a tad unfair to lay all the blame at Ashleys door. My original point was had fred remained we could still be in the prem but in a much worse position (financially) or even worse, relegated and still financially fucked ( no interest free loans from freddy). I think the points you make about big wages, bonus payments etc only show an owner who at that time was prepared to sanction big deals. I think it went tits up with the KK appointment (which seemed rediculously rushed through). Had a proper appointment being made at this point in time then I think we would be in a much better situation today. As much as I love KK he was definately the wrong man.

The word your struggling for is interesting. Stevies threads, rants, drunken rants and football stories were interesting and usually fun, two key reasons why the majority on here come here and liked Stevies posts. This place will hopefully pick up again sometime soon when Stevie returns or a poster of his ilk joins. Stevie at times could be interesting in a "laugh at the silly man" kind of way. Normally it was just though and his "act" was pretty repetitive. I hardly know what to say. I must agree. Ive never really noticed this poster but his last three posts say a lot about him.

The statement was Ashleys reign is undefensable. I clearly disagree, it started very well untill the keegan appointment. Up until then most supporters ( most) were quite happy with what was going on.

don't think Ashley signed any of them. Smith, Nolan, Guti, Collocini, all high earners and all signed under Fat Mikes watch. not by him. He just wrote the cheques. (which normally a chairman would get praise for) Don't pretend you don't understand what's being said, pedantic twat. Ashleys reign is pretty much indefensible. Grow up nobody is pretending anything. You can't blame Ashley for writing cheques period. It is not his fault managers and others tasked with spending that money made a fuck up of it. With regard to his reign, an unemotional analysis would be needed but that won't happen here and now. However his reign was decent in my eyes untill it went tits up. I like mort (as most did at the time), I liked the links they tried to develop in the community with regard to family sections, singing sections etc. I liked the three year deal, I liked that they tried to put some structure into a very unstructured club. I liked an owner who didn't want to spout shit all the time. I liked that he brought keegan back. Had that last decision being better (as much as I liked it), I think we would be in a lot better position today.

don't think Ashley signed any of them. Smith, Nolan, Guti, Collocini, all high earners and all signed under Fat Mikes watch. not by him. He just wrote the cheques. (which normally a chairman would get praise for)

don't think Ashley signed any of them.

Big money football is fucked....... Wake up! Do people really think there are buyers out there just waiting for us to get promoted? Why wait for us? Why not buy Everton or any of the other clubs that are already up there? All clubs in the prem without a mega rich benefactor are in danger of going tits up and this will only get worse in the coming years. Ashley is not the owner we wanted, but is probably the owner we needed.

The word your struggling for is interesting. Stevies threads, rants, drunken rants and football stories were interesting and usually fun, two key reasons why the majority on here come here and liked Stevies posts. This place will hopefully pick up again sometime soon when Stevie returns or a poster of his ilk joins.

Kronenbourg and triple Baileys wasn't it ? Soft Shandy Drinking La La tbh Ahem, ahem! Kronneburg, Baileys and Sambukas thank you very much. Feel queasy just thinking about it and it did fuck all for my weight watchers.

Unfortunately not, but half these pissed twats getting in my cab have been. The first minger, stumbles out the car, mortal at 5.30 p fucking m stumbles and zig zags across her drive at which point her jeans fall down to her ankles revealing an arse the size of an elephant and equally wrinkled. Downhill from there tbf.

Taken back to their home planets tbh Note: Poochie died on the way back to his home planet. On the subject of recently departed, I noticed Barry Davies was lurking yesterday morning. he hasn't commentated though it's being a he'll of a lot duller without him. (and fop)

I have found that compulsive liars nose tips tend to move up and down when they are talking / lying! Thus I instantly know I am not going to get along with this sort of person.

And be branded an average championship team... You must be a young'un because you will realise we will always be branded something no matter what we do and usually it will be wrong. As someone has already said, best we don't go up with great expectations. Most of us realise that finishing fourth bottom next season would be a fantastic achievement. However back to the question... An arse nipping day out on the lash at NEW wembley followed by a heart stopping last gap penalty shoot out promotion.. That's what it's all about.

Would prefer to go up via the play offs, via a penalty shoot out.

Card, flowers and a stroll to the top of Penshaw Monument.

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Come on Admin, let him back in. If thats true then even more reason and tbf, I cant recall anything terrible / against the laws of the land that he's typed of recent (if ever).