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What you are not factoring in is the Managers perspective. (Not that I've played football manager) But if I was the manager (and not a fan) and knew that money was going to be tight then that is when you wheel and deal. Hughton might decide to cash in on Colochini, make do with Taylor and williamson for now and decide to make better use of the Colochini money and wages. After all he crumbled quite a bit last year in the prem so if we can cash in now AND better re-invest the money then that would be good business. Sadly the same may go for Krul and a few others. As a manager I would be looking and saying which is the absolute core of my team that I cant be without and which ones can increase my transfer kitty. As a manager I think Enrique would be untouchable, everyone else would be available at the right price (as long as I had identified alternatives).

Or if you are there in July then the Great Yorkshire Show is on in Harrogate,... expensive tho at £21 a ticket

Used to visit Knaresborough a lot and if its a nice sunny day, get yerself along the river to Mother Shiptons cave, Englands oldest tourist resort. If you have a car then Pately Bridge is very nice and a short drive away. If your just on the lash then ignore above.

Returned last week to the under 18's 4-1 defeat by Forest

Thing us not only do we have carr on board scouting, we also have more money and a longer period to find the right player and do the deal.

Another thing I was talking to Tooj about and he said it's a bit like how Lua Lua should've been given the time on the pitch Pancrate has had. Ditto Kadar when Enrique was out for a month instead of the kid from Chelsea. Tbf though, the results have been positive and it's hard getting every signing right when you haven't got a lot of money to spend. Best looks like a turkey though. Spot on-why give a kid from Chelsea time when we have a player on the books with bags of potential who needs 1st team time, and hasn't let us down. Exact same with Pancrate, he's been very poor, and Lua Lua is getting great reviews at Brighton. You never know whats going on behind the scenes though, he may have been a worky ticket or just done something that was kept in house and banished to another club. When Ive seen him he looked decent so there must be something amiss.

Think we are going to be the new Fulham

Andy Carroll, Nile Ranger, Kadar, Tozer, Edgar, Krul, Vuckic and Tavernier have all played come through over the last 2 seasons. I don't think we won't give promising players an opportunity, i just don't think the players are coming through, we haven't produced a decent central midfielder since Lee Clark.. Iirc there have been no examples in recent years of young players we've released who've gone on to play at the top level. Of the players you've named there only Andy Carroll has been given more than a handful of games in the first team. Of the rest the majority have played a handful of games or less for the first side. Ranger for example looked to be getting a chance to figure in the first team, and then in January Best was purchased. Kadar despite looking good whenever played couldn't get in the side ahead of a short term loanee in Fitz Hall. Vukic and Inman despite playing exceptionally well in the reserve/youth setup can't get into the first side even on the bench. Granted some of these players aren't vey old, but ifthey can't get a spot on the bench whilst we're in he Championship then what chance do they have in he Premier League? I think in part we're still suffering from the decimation of the youth setup as overseen by Shepherd. With the youth setup removed only players in the first team were considered with no real a emir to progress through. The paths are slowly being reopened, but so far it has been too slow for my liking. Yeah I don't disagree with you, but bringing through youth players that aren't good enough or aren't ready is not going to help them or the club. It's for young players to come in to the first team and play so well that they can't be dropped. Carroll has done that but I don't think that Ranger or Kadar have done that yet, admittedly they still look better than Hall or Best but not the first team incumbent. It would be nice to see Best get a goal before he is totally written off. Hope its just stagefright and that a goal will open the floodgates. Not convinced like.

This.. It just doesn't add up. Makes perfect sense to me. DL doesnt have a clue about the club, football, the fans or reality. I'd expect no less than this remark. They could, in theory, sell maybe 5K more season tickets plus some corporates. Maybe a revenue of £3M from those plus a little extra on food etc. Not all of the current season tickets are on 3yrs so they will have a lot of renews, but that will be taken into account already so we're only looking at extra's. Im not sure out of how many 43K attendance are season tickets and how many are cash on the day etc. We are not all forgetting that Journalists have said this and not the club. The Journos all want the circus filled copy to start so be prepared for all sorts of varying stories over the coming months. The club seem to be keeping everything in house and just getting on with landing the title.

There goes the Sky money

*cough* fucking *cough* Yes

According to Steve Wraith, someones posted on NUST forum that our right back was out on the piss in a certain Jesmond pub on Sunday

Welcome back, Newcastle! Five reasons why the Geordies will brighten up the Premier League Daily Mail

Dont know about the exact trip but National Express are advertising there around Britain for a quid offer which might help you. http://www.nationalexpress.com/home.aspx

The Second half part cuts off right after the final whistle, but the guy uploaded the whole post match stuff in that separate file. Cheers for that, I'll have a look for the separate file.

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Because he just looks so good and different to what we are used to. The way he commands the box and distribution look first class. He just looks so energetic which is also his one weakness, however once he calms down a tad he will be the finished article IMO If we are not careful he will be away.

Andy Carroll, Nile Ranger, Kadar, Tozer, Edgar, Krul, Vuckic and Tavernier have all played come through over the last 2 seasons. I don't think we won't give promising players an opportunity, i just don't think the players are coming through, we haven't produced a decent central midfielder since Lee Clark.. Iirc there have been no examples in recent years of young players we've released who've gone on to play at the top level. Slightly connected... I dropped a woman off at housing near that Dunston Rocket and she was telling me that the lamposts have signs on then warning kids face an £80 fine for playing ball games.

But its a forum and I doubt many would know my milkman (not that I have one).

You don't half peddle some absolute bullshit... Was the full quote craig Laugh away but to me watching him get interviewed he comes across in that nice decent way that gives you a warm glow. Tends to choose his words carefully. Maybe its just the fact that he's one of those managers that you "like" rather than the Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear type of manager who are either full of themselves or full of shite. I always new is we won under Allardyce he would sort of claim all the credit himself, he did this , he did that.....yet if we lost it was always blaming a player etc... Anyway fuck yas all except Tecato (strange name that like) I think the question mark over Hughton is if he can be as ruthless as Robson. Thats a very good point and will be the making or breaking of him. Hopefully he'll be on a very good stepped bonus next year for various finishes and Mrs Hughton will be driving him hard

I agree that a good scouting/youth system is one of the last things you want to cut back on. Makes absolutely no sense to me and I hope Ashley is taking it more seriously than his predecessors. We'll see, one benefit of not paying too much for players is that if they're cack you can move them on quietly without too much fuss and the others can make their mark without the pressure of expectation being too high. I'm not defending how Ashley's behaved up until now. More what I'm saying is that he's still here and presumably has learned SOMETHING about running a football club. We're back in the PL with a manager who's had a chance to learn away from the glare of the spotlight and seemingly a good feeling about the club again. He's not though, that's the point I'm making. The academy's still an absolute joke. I take your other points on board btw. Absolute tosh He came in and tried to put a system in place with various scouting roles etc. All those blokes whose names I forget that were going to be searching the world (via you tube) for talent. Then came Keegangate, tits up and relegation The point is the original idea was to have an extensive system in place. Having being relegated, managerless and debts mounting, staff made redundant it is quite clear that very little (appointment of carr aside) was going to happen til promotion had been assured. That has now happened and IF and its a fucking huge IF, he doesnt sell us, I have no doubt that he will once again copy his retail empire and try to put systems and structures in place to build us into a strong position. The difference, hopefully , will be lesson will have been learned from his first attempt and this time the structure will be solid , stable and work. That is the only way this club is ever going to compete at the heighest level again.

You don't half peddle some absolute bullshit... Was the full quote craig Laugh away but to me watching him get interviewed he comes across in that nice decent way that gives you a warm glow. Tends to choose his words carefully. Maybe its just the fact that he's one of those managers that you "like" rather than the Souness, Roeder, Allardyce, Kinnear type of manager who are either full of themselves or full of shite. I always new is we won under Allardyce he would sort of claim all the credit himself, he did this , he did that.....yet if we lost it was always blaming a player etc... Anyway fuck yas all except Tecato (strange name that like)

I don't think we're any worse as a side now than we were last year and we haven't spent much. For every Shearer there's a Luque or Boumsong. We were relegated, the wheels came off. We weren't too big to go down. I think like most things it was a chance to take stock, lower expectations of a quick fix and start rebuilding. The Keegan and Robson eras weren't instant fixes, they grew and gained momentum. As a club we were acting like any big organisation that's lost its way. Too many divisions, no proper leadership and too much waste. We were humbled and took it on the chin. Hughton and his players have momentum again. I don't know if you went last night but from the TV footage the ground looked like it was rocking again. It's about energy. I remember the feeling of anti climax after we finished 5th. Once that mindset is there you either need a huge amount of luck, money or both. We blew a lot of money but we didn't get any luck and people were waiting for us to fail. Now it's someone elses turn, maybe Liverpool and we can hopefully get on with building a decent side with stable management and move on up the league. Of course it might not happen like that but IMO it could. I've said it before, there are too many here who seem to be almost wishing for it not to happen and I really don't see what the benefit is. Good Post Have a read of Caulkins latest today, lot of sense in it.

George Caulkin