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Errr it was the bankers and financiers that left the country in the state it's in. Who removed restrictions from the bankers Yeah let's ignore responsibility of the public who embraced the credit card/buy to let culture which was the real cause - easier to blame the government. Thats why we have governments and laws. Public would bring back hanging in a flash so that argument is no good.

Just to add that "no bra" picture is bollox..... They would be all over the place causing serious damage

Hereditary peers for one

You dont say Sherlock Is that not somewhat ironic coming from a tory? Labour and Tories both as bad as each other tbh and this thread helps to prove it. How does this thread prove it though? One thing I can't stand is this lazy belief there's no difference between the parties, it's like you're making an excuse to be apathetic. Of course there's differences - although both parties have moved towards the central ground there's still a clear ideological line drawn between them. We'll find that out soon enough if the tories are elected. Memories are short it appears. Thats just waffle tbf... What would be better would be for you to explain how this ideological line manifests itself in actual policy.

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You dont say Sherlock Is that not somewhat ironic coming from a tory? Labour and Tories both as bad as each other tbh and this thread helps to prove it. Ofcourse they are, egomaniacs all of them!

The tories are corrupt before they get in man. Look at the shadow cabinet... Hague Has the stink of the Ashcroft affair hanging around him. Osborne Has the Deripaska claim, and he was one of the MPs to have 'flipped' his home in the expenses scandal. Grayling A mess. Made hundreds of thousands in the expenses scandal. Says B&B's should have the right to turn away gay couples. Cooks the numbers on crime. and.... On 7 October 2009 he was asked by the BBC about a Conservative Party plan to offer General Sir Richard Dannatt an advisory role. He, thinking it was a Labour appointment, said he hoped it was not a "political gimmick", and said "We've seen too many appointments in this government of external people where it's all been about Gordon Brown's PR.". When he realized he had misheard the question, and that it was a possible appointment of his own party, he said he was "really delighted" with the idea, adding "It's a bit embarrassing really because I would have liked to give General Dannatt a more enthusiastic welcome." Pickles had to pay back £300 following the expenses scandal. Lansley Another flipper Spelman Nannygate Received £40,000 for cleaning and bills for her constituency home, despite being her main home. Gove Another flipper Fox Ridiculous expenses claims (£19,000 on his mobile phone) Twice admitted to breaking parliamentary rules. These are just the ones I've looked at so far. Every one of them, a twat. I could keep going. Heres some more for you, unfortunateley too much Labour Sleaze to copy and Paste so I'll just link http://www.labour-watch.com/sleaze.htm

You dont say Sherlock

an incy wincy tiny little modacum

Leaders' Debate: Lessons For Next Time

Errr it was the bankers and financiers that left the country in the state it's in. Who removed restrictions from the bankers You mean who started financial de-regulation? no

And sold off the gold etc etc etc etc etc

Errr it was the bankers and financiers that left the country in the state it's in. Who removed restrictions from the bankers

Same old Labour. Inherit a fantastic economy, throw money everywhere trying to make things better, leave the country broke. repeat to fade...

The tories are corrupt before they get in man. Look at the shadow cabinet... Hague Has the stink of the Ashcroft affair hanging around him. Osborne Has the Deripaska claim, and he was one of the MPs to have 'flipped' his home in the expenses scandal. Grayling A mess. Made hundreds of thousands in the expenses scandal. Says B&B's should have the right to turn away gay couples. Cooks the numbers on crime. and.... On 7 October 2009 he was asked by the BBC about a Conservative Party plan to offer General Sir Richard Dannatt an advisory role. He, thinking it was a Labour appointment, said he hoped it was not a "political gimmick", and said "We've seen too many appointments in this government of external people where it's all been about Gordon Brown's PR.". When he realized he had misheard the question, and that it was a possible appointment of his own party, he said he was "really delighted" with the idea, adding "It's a bit embarrassing really because I would have liked to give General Dannatt a more enthusiastic welcome." Pickles had to pay back £300 following the expenses scandal. Lansley Another flipper Spelman Nannygate Received £40,000 for cleaning and bills for her constituency home, despite being her main home. Gove Another flipper Fox Ridiculous expenses claims (£19,000 on his mobile phone) Twice admitted to breaking parliamentary rules. These are just the ones I've looked at so far. Every one of them, a twat. I could keep going. All good fun Happy but totally biassed! The point remains and is a well known political reality that all the best Labour people have gone.

For once, I agree with you !

That was a big big no no

Dyed in the wool Tory but there to be persuaded by a.n. other. Not going to be Clegg or Brown though this time but if I had to I would lean more towards the Lib Dems after last night. Any government thats had 13 years has used all the best people and is usually corrupt and exhausted. And its pure turn off stuff when they say we hate such and such and we are going to change it next year. You've had 13 years to get rid of tory peers you fuckers. Theres just something about Clegg, something Jim Caryish?????

But the same floaters who gave Clegg the lead on the show, still voted Lib Dems third when asked who they would vote for in a general election. I sometimes wonder who these floaters actually are? The people who make governments are the people change from Labour to Conservative and then back again. Some of these so called floaters just seem like total clueless tossers. With regard to Clegg, I liked his "freshness" at first but then started to find him irritating. More importantly he overused the "lets all get together and form a decision card". This just left me feeling that he actually had no ideas himself. But would I vote Lib Dem, no. Still dont think they have anymore than 3 or 4 really good politicians. Its like that Nigel Ferrero Rocher from UKIP. He always talks very well and makes some very sensible points on UKIP but you know theres no-one behind him.

He made himself look extremely weak by keep saying this, especially when the camera cut to clegg shaking his head in disagreement.

With regard to who "won" tonight I would say Clegg, then Cameron, then Brown. Brown and Cameron looked far too rehearsed where as Clegg came across quite natural. While I initially liked Cleggs performance, by the end I thought he was coming across holier than thou. With another two of these debates to go I think Clegg could really ramp up support for the lib dems with a lot of floating voters, particularly the young. Overall as a bit pro Dave, extremely dissapointed with his performance.

Breaking news Re the cloud of dust that has closed all UK airports ,police have arrested the newcastle trophy cabinet cleaner in connection with this incident.

Clegg is light years ahead and both my 21 and 18 year old daughters say they would vote for him.

After 30 minutes Clegg winning hands down. Brown looks like a dinasoar and Cameron too serious. Come on Dave, get in the game.

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