Christmas Tree

Worth noting after all the hoo ha that at the lib dem conference yesterday over 99% of grass root lib dems voted in favour of the coalition.

Seems a good first move from George Osbourne to make government forecasting independant so that politicians can't fiddle the figures in the future.

Watched it tonight, excellent!

I'd love a greenhouse for the back garden. There seems to be some canny bargains on adtrader for greenhouses.

They're on ebay for £80 with free delivery. I bought something similar last year and the first strong winds we had it just evaporated, how tough is this CT? It's a decent size like. Aye I saw them on ebay however for the sake of £19 I wanted the peace of mind of being able to take it back and get it sorted if not right. As it happened when we open the box and assembled it the plastic was coming away from the the zip. We got it changed within an hour. It seems very tough to me, but time will tell. Our allotment neighbour bought one online for £50 which looks pants.

Just quite surprised that Thatcher ( or any world leader ) was banging on about climate change 22 years ago. Not a party political point btw, just interesting given the timespan. Most would think of climate change as a very recent thing with that vice president bloke whose name escapes me.

Came across this 22 year old speech today..... Who'd have thought it!

You see the answer should be that if everyone is happy with their ratio, the spare cash should be put into a jolly boys outting pot (e.g. an olympic games, update broadband to 1GB etc..). It can be then used if required to offset a credit crunch or bail out rover This is quite an old quote. It should really be updated to reflect our current situation, which is the bill gets put up £20 (i.e. to service our £42 billion debt interest) and the first 7 guys vote 8, 9 and 10 (10 being business) to pay it so 10 f**ks off to India, leaving Gordon to look silly and Labourites who never understood the system in the first place to blame economic conditions. Very Good

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I think we are looking for conspiracy style policy in something which is basically pretty mundane, especially given the lack of real newsworthyness in the media. Maybe it will be more of a story when the MP's debate it, however i'm sure it is deficit re-payal which will concern most voters.

Did High Street last year from Stavely, a nice 78k ride, was tough climbing up I must say. TNF at Grizedale is Waaaaaaayyyy overated IMO. Mind you, most trail centres are, give me natural MTBing any day. Im sure theres mountain bikers and then theres mountain bikers!!! As cat bells is no Jacks rack to the walkers.

I always love to see the proper fell walkers around the lakes and always feel quite envious. Last year I even planned to do sca fell this year but other things just crop up, particularly with a family in tow. However having googled a few images of jack's rake today...... I can say without hesitation that you are all fucking loopy.

Very Nice but a brief description would be nice

300 Not the sort of film I would normally watch but thoroughly enjoyed it. 8/10

Its a gorgeous place, but the biking there is shite. Never done it so I'll leave the finer judgement to you. There was however lots of serious looking Mountain bikers there! One of the trails is featured on You Tube (below) and quite frankly I could only do it with stableisers.

Excuses excuses The world and all its conspiracies will keep on turning if you take an afternoon for yourself. I've tried 3 types from seed this year and all currently coming along in the conservatory in one of those plastic house things. Went for tigerellas, sungold and money makers. I know it saves a lot of time buying the plants but it has been fun growing stuff from seed and having the successes and failures along the way.

Put my beans in last week and came back to find them killed off by the frost. Live and Learn

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Daaaahling, was the Montrachet to die for? Tweedies is bog standard anyway. Still haven't got round to contacting your friends btw MF, not had time, hopefully will later in the year. Features in the coveted Michelin recommended good pud food guide Camra pub of the year Is there actually any subject that you dont talk complete bollocks about. I was there at Easter so I'm talking from recent personal experience. It's OK but not special, better than the Lamb Inn which is rubbish, but nowhere near as good as the Swan Hotel up the road. All opinions at the end of the day but its difficult to see how it deserves your pompous description. You're clearly feeling rattled btw, perhaps you need another break dear, as the last one doesn't seem to have worked. So in a few hours its moved from BOG STANDARD to OK Now see you could have just said that in the first place rather than trying to be a little smarty pants.

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Daaaahling, was the Montrachet to die for? Tweedies is bog standard anyway. Still haven't got round to contacting your friends btw MF, not had time, hopefully will later in the year. Features in the coveted Michelin recommended good pud food guide Camra pub of the year Is there actually any subject that you dont talk complete bollocks about.

Just back from a lovely week in the lakes, as usual staying in a canny little caravan on the Haven site in Grange over sands. Day 1 Tarn Hows Park at the top and take the waterfall route down to Yew tree farm for delicious Herdwick lamb baguettes. This has been a family favourite for the last few years and the delicious food at the bottom is worth the trek down and the strenuos hike back up to the top. Imagine the look on our faces when we got to the bottom only to find the farm had now closed its tea rooms!!! Day 2 Grizedale Forrest Quite simply a beautiful location to walk or mountain bike. Get there early and enjoy a delicious early morning fry up from the visitor centre before setting off. Day 3 South Lakes Wild Animal Park If you like Zoos this is a really nice little zoo. First time we've being and it was excellent value for money. Particularly good fun to Hand feed the Giraffes from the aerial walkway. Day 4 Grasmere and shopping Found a simply divine eatery in Grasmere called Tweedies based at the Dale Lodge Hotel. A little more than you would normally pay for pub grub but honestly it was outstanding. They also run an event in September called the Grasmere Guzzler over 3 days. The rooms look quite nice too and I can vouch for the real ale. Overall a lovely little break away and good weather to boot.

We must be fair to everyone – even the rich Prosperity masked deep social divisions. As the cuts bite, the fractures will widen unless the pain is shared http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/c...icle7125822.ece This does seem to be the way we are headed and its hard to know how this will play out 20 or 30 years down the line. The parties will only get closer and closer, politically and voting will be reduced to a sort of x factor politics, if not already. Labour and Conservatives have moved too close to the centre and I cant really see either party moving back to old stomping grounds. Im also unsure whether this makes governments better or worse ie the fact that we are not reeling policies from the left to the right, more tinkering on the edges. With regard to the defecit and planned cuts etc.... a commentator on the above article left this little story which I found amusing.

Yeah I saw the proto-facist cunt last night....he's blaming the electorate for the faults of the electoral system....he fuckin hates people,full stop, What a cunt....nothing to do with any of the 3 parties being too useless to elect then Tarzan? But as has been said many times, PR would probably make coalitions the norm rather than the exception. As quite a few expressed on QT last night, the Lib Dems will probably get a good kicking at the next election making a clear winner more likely. The big problem is that all three main parties are so close these days that there really isnt much of a choice. aint that the truth....but it didnt stop Hezza glowering at the audience as if theyd just planted a bomb in the hotel he was staying in...did you see the look of contempt on his fuckin face? I did but I think he's great. He's one of the old style politicians before spin who can debate there point really well and usually honestly and bluntly. A spade is a spade and they just get on with it without worrying about the spin like the current lot. There used to be quite a few on both sides such as Tony benn who just got it on!!!! Old Skool