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From today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/ap...ter-anniversary

I spent a month doing that in 1993. Amtrak do zone railcards which are good value. Mine lasted the month and I could get on any Amtrak train in the eastern third of America. Started in New York and stopped at Washington DC, Savannah Georgia and Miami. I stayed in youth hostels which were cheap and everywhere. Sometimes they were in pretty dodgy areas though... I did that the following year and eneded up in hostels in Harlem (terrifying local vagrants) New Orleans (heard gunfire every day for a week, first burst was as we were getting our bags out of the taxi when we first arrived! ) and Anaheim (cab driver who couldnt speak a word of English crashed his cab on the way to the hostel after running a red light, nearly killed us) And most of the septics thought English was my second language.....fuckin cheeky twats Having said all that.................to me, its a great place, full of interesting things in a way that huge,dull dustbowl Austrailia just can't measure up to. The people I came across were overwhelming great as well with just one or two exceptions

Bad as the scouse. We're so special! Look at us, we care more. No you don't you are no different to any other club. Lack of trophies aside. You'd love to believe that .... but in your heart you know that nobody will ever really care either way about Tottenham Hotspur. They just aren't interesting like us. Arsenal have the slick flowing football, Chelsea have the glamour and the money, West Ham have tradition and are the lifeblood of working class football in the capital. Millwall have the hooligans, Fulham have Mohammed Al Fayed. And then there's your lot. Another club in London. Nobody hates you because you just don't matter. I know it's tough Danny Boy, but we're HERE for you. Your continued posting is acknowledgement of the fact that it's just really not possible to say anything about your club. Never mind son. We're a broad church. Enjoy the atmosphere and the passion. We take you into our fold. Let me see, we have the first domestic double in the modern game, A trophy in every decade, a tradition that makes West Ham look like a Monday night five aside team, a fan base that has never averaged under 20K despite being relegated in 77 (only us and Man Utd can say that), a European trophy in my life time. What we DON'T do however is go round saying how "special" our club is, despite only having an ability to lurch from disaster to disaster differentiating us from the likes of Boro... Glory hunting cockney twat

Was Shola playing in midfield then? We have a world class goalscorer who thrives on good service in the right areas for him to use his great finishing to best effect and if he's received 3 decent passes into space in the penalty area all season I'd be fuckin amazed. Its the midfield that seen us in the bottom 3, our strikers,Shola apart, are more than good enough for a UEFA cup spot. Shearer saved the day in a way after changing it with the right players at the right time and also Stoke sat back more than they had been doing in the last 20 mins. If our strikers had the chances Stoke had we'd have won 3 or 4 nil, as they should have.

He is that fat footed bloke everyone takes the piss out of in 5 a side. Even though Shearer says he's shit hot in training? Every manager we've had has said the same...Souness said three mornings out of four he was "unplayable" in training. He must've been close to an England call up around the time we were playing in the champions league....he was banging them in at the Likes of Leverkusen and Liverpool, and the under 21s, and all Erikkson was picking in the England squad at the time was Heskey, Owen and Darius fuckin Vassel! At the time, he was definetly playing better than Vassel. But he hasn't kicked on, as mentioned above he's gone backwards. I watched him amble on to the pitch for the second half at Stoke on Saturday, a minute or so behind his teamates. He looked completely uninterested, just like he was out for a stroll in the sun. Someone pointed this out and everyone stood around us saw it and the more charitable among them just laughed and put their heads in their hands. The others...well...look at the first post on this thread.

I am surprised he hasnt stepped down after what has happened.We will take a long time to recover from this Labour government. Really?......."never apologise, never resign" being the mantra of the modern political classes in the 21st century..... This is piss poor playground stuff played out over an otherwise dull (news wise) bank holiday weekend. The tories smell blood over something these un-elected pricks (the government advisers) spend most of their time doing ie finding ways to snipe at the opposistion.Don't for a minute think that the tories dont employ their own spinners to do the same job. McBride works in number 10, but is Brown really going to see every email the fool sends? Blair and that fuckin tosspot Campbell never apologised for the Iraq war or the death of Dr Scott so to expect an apology and a resignation from the Prime Minister for a bit of name calling that he knew nothing about is like asking for the death sentence for dropping litter. Politicians and thier un-elected lackeys in this country are almost all to a man/woman self serving careerist fuckers with more interest in feathering their own nests than serving those who elect them.They're not alone in this,but they are better behaved and less corruptthan most,even in Europe......Silvio Burlisconi or Gordon Brown anyone?

Seeing as you're plainly concerned as to the religious significance of Good Friday on the population of London in general, I do find it a bit galling that you were out on the fuckin lash and needing a 30 quid taxi home on one of the most religiously significant days in the christian calender. See you at Matins next Sunday before the match?.....hmmm...thought not...... Ha ha, Good Friday doesn't really affect me either. I dont use it an excuse to rip people off. You work in the City of London?......is the concept of irony lost on you lot?

Seeing as you're plainly concerned as to the religious significance of Good Friday on the population of London in general, I do find it a bit galling that you were out on the fuckin lash and needing a 30 quid taxi home on one of the most religiously significant days in the christian calender. See you at Matins next Sunday before the match?.....hmmm...thought not......

Shit thats ok, our top notch recruitment team are bound to have another left back at the club by now.....isn't that right Dennis?.....Tony?.....are you lads there?......

She was a fat racist charver though, famous for basically being a....thick fat racist charver. To reward the youth of today with stardom, jewels and more money than they could have made in a lifetime if they were doing what they are capable of is the problem with this country now. What message does it give? Either stick in at school, get a job and work hard all of your life or, leave school with fuck all, go on a reality programme (where the only reason they selected you was because you were so pig shit thick) get ya minge out, say some stupid stuff to show just how thick you actually are then appear in OK magazine. Call a Bollywood star names because you think you're better than her and become reviled by the general world but its ok because at some stage you'll die and suddenly they'll think you're a saint. If you want to blame anyone for your pretty valid points then blame the media who gave her the platform to perform on. She was a product of her piss poor enviroment, which a lot of people are being brought up in, judging by the amount of people who appear to identify with her. The media were catering to these people,plainly not yourself. She wasn't a fat racist charver, she was a thick, daft lass who was a product of the Britain we've all contributed to in 2009. She saw a chance to make a better life for herself by just being herself and not worrying about what others thought,until her hard nosed upbringing reared its head and she spoke to someone in a way that she had been spoken to many times herself, coupled with the inflated ego that all the exposure in the media was bound to cause in someone of limited intelligence with large numbers a parasites around her making themselves huge amounts of cash on the back of her making a show of herself. I doubt if its the worst thing thats happened to the Indian girl either. Is that what you dont like?....the mirror she holds up via the media so we can all see the way less fortunate among us live, and the way they have to degrade themselves in public to make a better life for themselves?

I dunno Nirvana were if anything on the slide in that context (as the band in fact wanted) by the time he topped himself. Cobain himself might have moved into a different type fame with his death, but that's no different to so many others that died in similar circumstances. As far as family and suicide go, I can't imagine Courtney Love helped. Reckon you're right....I think the Heart Shaped Box ablum was written as a goodbye note to the music industry, certainly from Cobain and Novoselic....."Penny Royal Tea" etc, a lot of it is nowhere near as poppy and accessible as "Nevermind", which was reflected in the sales of the later album. I saw them at Calton Studios in Edinburgh in 92, around the time MTV had pushed "Smells Like Teen Spirit" to the top of the charts. The venue held no more than 400, but there was also that many outside, some trying to push into the gig, security was going mental. It mustve been like that during "Beatlemania" I remember thinking. He could write a canny tune, and his voice will appeal to tortured teens down the decades.

Also on this day, a mere 6 years ago, from NUFC.com: 2003 Newcastle were third in the Premiership, six points behind Arsenal and Manchester United but having played a game fewer than them both. We had 61 points from 31 matches while the mackems were bottom with 19 points from 32 games.

I personally can't argue with much of this particular column, the Valerenga thing when Shearer went straight to the press after being rested was definetly a nail in Sir Bob's coffin at SJP. In Sir Bobs book he says he was also trying to bring Emile Mpenza in at the time, and was blocked by Shepherd,who with Souness spent 25 mill on Owen and Luque and completely indulged Shearer to limp on and break Milburns record two season later,which is a nail in the coffin thats about to be lowered into the fizzy pop league. Morgan has also said in his hugely well informed column this season that Wenger should be sacked (he proffesses to be an Arsenal fan) and that Liverpool blew the league when B enitez had a "rant" at Fergie in a press conference. He knows next to fuck all about football but is a smooth talking gobshite who comes across well on camera, and as mentioned above doesn't take himself too seriously. British Soldiers and his ex employers at Trinity Mirror may not be so charitable.

Says the lad arguing against asians and women on another clubs message board I'm not anti asian or anti women. I just feel that when a women goes to football she is denying a man a seat but I suppose that doesn't apply in the case of Newcastle. Alf Garnett was supposed to be a satire on knuckle draggers who come out with crap like this, and that was 40 odd years ago. Ask Warren Mitchell who played him, he's a Spurs fan,and has said it many times. He'd be dead proud of you for that little gem.

...In no man's land The same old story again All those tears shed in vain Nothing learnt and nothing gained Only hope remains and thats in short supply this morning hope this is in August or May next season

My old man took me and my brother to Poole Town v Southampton in the very early in 1980 because he said he wanted us to see Kevin Keegan play before he retired from playing, impressing on us what a great player he was.....later that year we moved north, and KK followed 18 months later and we saw the great man every other week We lived near Berwick so I was at Shielfield a lot as a youngster too And I lived on Easter Road in Edinburgh too so it was Hibs when I wasn't watching the Toon trying to keep out of divi 3 in the early 90s......You could watch the CCS (Hibs casuals) ambush groups of away fans from our second floor flat, which was often more entertaining than the football.....until they started using petrol bombs and CS gas.....bit naughty that like

I cant see us going into admnistration as being in major debt isnt really the club's main problem....losing 30 million in the last financial year and the wage bill of a top 4 club are the main problems though....maybe Ashley thinks administration and certain relelgation is a good way of cutting costs and trimming the wage bill...fat cunt

Is it really dull to say I don't really hate any individual player as such? With many of them its just jealousy, apart from anyone who's played for the mackems....Ball,Kay,Gabba,Gates,Owers,Armstrong,Phillips,MaCann,Quinn...that list is fuckin endless really I wasn't keen on watching the Wimbledon team of the mid/late 80s, and sure enough, any of them still hanging around in the game/the media are without doubt complete fuckin wankers...Basset,Gould,Fash,Sanchez.....fuckin Wise

If he's a championship standard striker it would be fair to say - for a lad that has scored at Camp Nou in the Champions League - that he has overachieved. I'm going to be laughed out of this place but.......he must've been close to an England call up around then....Erikson was regularly naming just Owen,Heskey and Vassel in his squads...The Fenham Eusebio was banging them in for the under 21s as well at the time,Anfield,Leverkusen etc etc.....he was at least as good as Darius fuckin Vassel

True, but when Ashley was sounding him out about the job up here there wasnt a lot of us who had a good word to say about him....... If only we could wind the clock back then. I'd have hated Redknapp at the time because I don't think he'd be a long term appointment, he's something of a chequebook manager in my eyes and a bullshitter, and would be on his toes the moment he got a better offer from a Southern team. He's also extravagantly ugly, looking like a wax caricature that's been melting by the fire. Now I'd have him at the club in a flash. At least he has a clue what he's doing. According to Chris Mort, he wasnt offered the job, but I think thats largely bollocks...why speak to a bloke with his proven record if you're not going to offer him the job? I think he saw through the crap and could see he'd have to work for Dennis Wise and that Ashley was just stripping us down, making us financially lean for a quick sale, a process still ongoing. As to your other points about him...cast your eye over the first choice England team and you'll see that when he had to, he could produce top quality young players.He may well have used us as a step up in salary if the likes of Spurs had come in for him, thats true. And he looks like a bit of a freak due to a road accident which killed a mate of his during Italia 90.

True, but when Ashley was sounding him out about the job up here there wasnt a lot of us who had a good word to say about him.......

fuckin hell you couldnt make this club up this season.....if he's whoopsie, fair play to him, but he'd be as well packing his bags now if no one at the club knew about it.....football folk aren't the most liberal minded folk.

Well, the article's littered with truisms and cliches, isn't it? If someone had posted it on here they'd have had the piss ripped out of them. EXACTLY what I was thinking. Eventually, Ashley will realize that JK is a poor manager and he needs a better one if NUFC are to be sold for a real profit. Shortly thereafter, he will also realize he only finds horribly under qualified candidates for the job because of Wise, Llambias, at which point he'll finally fire those two. Around that time, everything falls into place, NUFC returns to form within a couple of seasons and Ashley finally sells for a tidy profit. How long it takes for all this to happen is anyone's guess though and that's the problem. I'd like to think the scales will fall from Ashley's eyes and he will realise he has to invest in real financial terms as well........but all you've got to do is have a look in one of his shops and you realise that his entire business ethos is based on doing things on the fuckin cheap

apparently it used to be called spiced ham

Geremi & Smith in the centre of the park v manu?