PaddockLad
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Real mediocrity and worse now awaits, until we find another board who want success like the last one did.
You're almost certainly right in saying that, but for me it's the wrong reason.
Because of the 2007 credit crunch and the subsequent world recession (which was the precise point the club was sold to Ashley) the level of debt and player wages we've been carrying for the last few years means we would've almost certainly seen a financial meltdown at the club whether the Halls (did they see the shit approaching the fan and get out sharpish?...I'd say yes, and subsequently forced the ill at the time Shepherds hand when Ashley came calling) and Shepherd had sold the club or not. All our relative success over the Shepherd years was acheived entirely on borrowed money, as Ashley, fool that he is, has subsequently discovered.
I don't know if you'd rather suffer the ignomy of the club going tits up (if no buyer comes in thats where we're heading, Barclays will pull the plug on the overdraft currently financing the running of the club before you can say "Spanish brothel") for the sake of the few games in the champions league and a couple of FA cup final appearances, but that is what you seem to be suggesting? Correct me if i'm wrong in this assumption, but again with the benefit of hindsight, there may have been another way to build the club up after KK's first period as manager.
I've enjoyed the last 18 years as much as anyone, never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd see us play in the San Siro or the Nou Camp, but the price of that ticket may well be very high indeed.
Ashley has been an utter disaster for the club but for me it may well have happened anyway.The likes of Villa,Spurs,Everton and even bloody Fulham seem to be riding out the financial crisis in a pretty astute manner, but we've crashed and burned. Don't know if this is because we're just a sympton of all that is wrong in modern top level football or Shepherd really is the bullshitting buffoon he comes across as. I suppose time will tell.
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You keep thinking it couldn't get any worse and it always does. Could we put a kitty in to hire someone to shoot that fat cunt? I know its only a friendly, but c'mon!
If you are referring to Ashley as the fat cunt I would suggest you direct your anger elsewhere on this occasion. The fat cunt had nothing to do with this atrocious result. It had everything to do with the players on the field and gawd knows there were enough of them out there, and the jokers who put them out there who obviously still don't have a clue as how to field a winning line up when your only absentees are Bassong, Ameobe & Rtaylor and you're playing a League 1 team. Nolan as centre-forward? gimme a fucking break.
I thought you said Shepherd [you know the bloke along with Hall who gave us one of the best teams in the country for the best part of 15 years] was the fat cunt ?
Yesterday is down to the players, but if the players aren't good enough and there is no positive leadership and direction in the club, that is not the fault of the players. Sometimes I wonder if you really are as old as you say you are or just had your head in the sand for decades pre-1992, and I know the answer too.
It is going to get worse if the club is not sold.
lets not be silly now
fucking hell, and here's me thinking regular european football makes you one of the best teams in the country.
well im sorry to piss on your parade, but it doesn't. you can get into europe by finishing half way down the league, or lower.
a lucky cup run
fair play league
etc
you can go and count the number of top 6 league positions, and you can compare the amount of top 6 league positons for decades previous to 1992, and the 2 years since Ashley bought the club whenever you like.
Take your time.
With the huge benefit of hindsight, was it all worth the sort of debt Shepherd put us in and which Ashley hasn't been able to or hasn't been willing to handle?
Half a dozen games in the champions league and a couple of FA cup final appearances isn't really justifiable when you look at the outlay on players and wages that has put us in the posistion we find ourselves in today.
Well, if you prefer to compete with the Charltons of this world by not trying to compete with the trophy winners [ a shameful stance anyway considering we are one of the biggest supported clubs in the country] then you have your wish because this is what Mike Ashley has returned us to, precisely what we were for decades pre-1992
Thats not really what I'm trying to say.
Possibly if we'd have been managed and run by more competent individuals the huge debt may have been rewarded with real success? e.g. Shepherd letting Souness loose with 40mill a year after sacking Sir Bob.
Chelsea were in huge debt before Abramovic bought them but had won 2 FA cups and a cup winners cup during the time Shepherd was chairman at SJP.
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You keep thinking it couldn't get any worse and it always does. Could we put a kitty in to hire someone to shoot that fat cunt? I know its only a friendly, but c'mon!
If you are referring to Ashley as the fat cunt I would suggest you direct your anger elsewhere on this occasion. The fat cunt had nothing to do with this atrocious result. It had everything to do with the players on the field and gawd knows there were enough of them out there, and the jokers who put them out there who obviously still don't have a clue as how to field a winning line up when your only absentees are Bassong, Ameobe & Rtaylor and you're playing a League 1 team. Nolan as centre-forward? gimme a fucking break.
I thought you said Shepherd [you know the bloke along with Hall who gave us one of the best teams in the country for the best part of 15 years] was the fat cunt ?
Yesterday is down to the players, but if the players aren't good enough and there is no positive leadership and direction in the club, that is not the fault of the players. Sometimes I wonder if you really are as old as you say you are or just had your head in the sand for decades pre-1992, and I know the answer too.
It is going to get worse if the club is not sold.
lets not be silly now
fucking hell, and here's me thinking regular european football makes you one of the best teams in the country.
well im sorry to piss on your parade, but it doesn't. you can get into europe by finishing half way down the league, or lower.
a lucky cup run
fair play league
etc
you can go and count the number of top 6 league positions, and you can compare the amount of top 6 league positons for decades previous to 1992, and the 2 years since Ashley bought the club whenever you like.
Take your time.
With the huge benefit of hindsight, was it all worth the sort of debt Shepherd put us in and which Ashley hasn't been able to or hasn't been willing to handle?
Half a dozen games in the champions league and a couple of FA cup final appearances isn't really justifiable when you look at the outlay on players and wages that has put us in the posistion we find ourselves in today.
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Every week that goes by is costing Ashley £2m approx so it can't go on forever, but whether common sense replaces stubborness and ego remains to be seen.
Thing is its not costing Ashley, its costing the club, its being added to the overdraft and sometime soon the bank is going to come knocking. As things stand there is no light at then end of the tunnel, if we continue on forking out that kind of figure every week then the overdraft must be increasing currently by at least £1.8m per week (totally guessed figure but I cant see us making enough sales of that yellow shirt and everything else to give us our cut of more than 200k per week).
So that means that in the last 9 weeks since the season ended we've added another 16m to the overdraft, yes the season ticket sales will have gone a long way towards it but watching nearly 2m going out each week with no sign of anything coming in and Barclays will pull the plug themselves.
This is the bottom line.....Ashley's not putting another penny into the club, and we're on borrowed time with the bank.....I think buyers may be waiting for Barclays to pull the plug and come in when we are in receivership/administration or whatever the fuck out status will be then....debts get wiped out but we lose 12 points.....but Ashley will have fucked off to run up some more gambling debts somewhere else, the fat cunt
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Today, much against my better judgement and only in an effort to preserve my loyalty points, I purchased 2 season tickets (there are two of us in this sorry situation) for the Leazes Corner level 7, section C.
I'm wondering if anyone would like to go halfers on the ticket/s? with the added advantage of both of us ST holders living "darn sarf" and aren't really planning on travelling to too many home games.......so you will basically have the ticket/s for 80%-90% of the home games, and as we are both in the away season ticket scheme there may well be one or two away days availiable (these wouldnt be included in the ST price as they are charged to us per match)
The season ticket price is £390, so you could get to nearly all home games next season for £185.
if anyone is interested please send me a PM
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Great piccies Craig
I'm pretty sure I was at all those games (yes I'm really that old
) apart from the Swindon game in the cup......got fuckin locked out! 
Wasn't Lou Macari investigated for betting against his own team in that game which was part of the reason why they got demoted in 1990 after winning the play offs v the tramps?
The Charlton game was I remember when I knew we'd get relegated the last time.....awful performence, we were so bored stood in the Scoreboard we started setting fire to discarded copies of the Chronicle.....Alan Oliver was a fuckin bullshitter in those days too
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The club are forcing the players into a corner....another 10 days of no action on the sale of the club and transfer requests will be flopping on to the sjp mat quicker than you can say "don't care if my contract isn't paid up up" which is ironically more than likely just what the club want.
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Only one left now...Harry Patch, the only man left alive who fought in the Flanders trenches at Passchandale.
In Austrailia I think the last Gallipolli vet is going to or actually got a state funeral......don't know if I agree with that or not?
rip Henry
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Is that the same Kelmsley whose own investments have gone tits up? Surely a man worth taking advice from.....
thats the same cunt who,when a member of their board, advised spurs to have a d.o.f. as well......they sorted that fuckin mess out last December by appointing a manager with proven ability and giving him 20 odd million to spend in January. What did we do......?
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WKL gleefully dancing on the grave before it's even been filled in:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/ju...mbargo-takeover
Louise Taylor guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 July 2009 13.17 BSTNewcastle United are doing nothing to reduce their £65m annual wage bill and have taken the extraordinary step of placing an embargo on any transfers until the managerless Championship club is sold.
Considering that sources close to on-going efforts to sell Newcastle have indicated that Mike Ashley, the owner, may not find a buyer this summer, this represents a high-risk strategy. Even if Ashley does succeed in this ambition, the most optimistic estimates gauge a takeover to be around a month away – in other words perilously close to the closure of the summer transfer window.
"There will be no players coming or going until the takeover has been completed," said a senior Newcastle source. "There will not be a firesale and it is up to the new owners and manager to decide who comes and who goes.
"The transfer market does not really get going until August and Newcastle will not be doing any business until a buyer has been found. It is all on hold."
Alex Black, the agent of Alan Smith, who is coveted by Blackburn Rovers, has already experienced this policy in action. "Newcastle United have put a sort of embargo on players moving in or out of the club until the situation is resolved in terms of ownership," explained Black. "So what can you do until that is sorted out? It is in Newcastle's hands."
Up to seven senior players are threatening to challenge this embargo by sumbitting written transfer requests early next week if Alan Shearer has not been installed as Newcastle's manager.
Shearer remains "completely in the dark" about events at St James' Park and is deeply concerned that Newcastle are missing out on opportunities to both offload players unsuited to the rigours of the Championship and recruit those possessing the pace and toughness required during the impending
"unnamed source" blah blah blah......but is Ashley trying to force the players into a corner to try and get them to hand transfer requests in so he doesn't have to pay their contracts up?
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So why is that happening? Are "the best fans in the world" boycotting Mike Ashley? or is it a case of the geordie nation being a fickle bunch like most football fans.
Danny B Lite
what happened to that fucker?...did he get banned in the end?
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Just spoke to the ever helpful box office......
this is on nufc.com today:
Tickets: West Brom (a) members sale now, £23.according to the b.o. thats bollocks.
There is no memebership scheme in place for this season......yet....
Applications from season ticket holders are invited up till August 1st, then any remaining will go on public sale.
With one thing and another, I'm not sure about renewing my season ticket, but I have enough loyalty points have been invited to apply for an "away season ticket" last season and this seaon.So I sent the away ST application off but not the home one, as the wording of the application made no mention whether you had to have a home season ticket or not,it basically said it was done on loyalty points accrued,of which I have over 100. I saw the ticket informtion on nufc.com and logged in to see if I'd got my ticket for West Brom set aside. Seeing no evidence of this I phoned the box office.
They've just told me I need to have a home ST if I want to take advantage of the "away ticket offer", which they say isn't an "away season ticket" and isn't described as such. Which is frankly bollocks, it was described as such in the literature.The bottom line in all this is you're almost certainly going to have to have a ST to get a ticket for West Brom, which is pretty much the same as last season I suppose, but with nufc.com saying theres a members sale on at the moment and the club saying there isn't a memebership scheme anyway, I can see there being a lot of confusion about this.
The other thing is if you have any loyalty points at all and you don't take a ST this year then you start next season with zero. Cunts.
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France won the world cup with Stephane Gui'varch up front on his own.
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Totally.
He's English, young, broken into the national team and 3 years down the line his re-sale value will be double that if he continues to improve or at least they'll get their money back + 20/30%. Although not as good as Young he is comparative to him in pace and crossing ability. When you change a team around you want to do it with as little impact on style as possible, also he'll be a little bit of competition for Young which is preferable to having a stop gap type. MON will want to compete in all the competitions next year without the handicap of an unbalanced small squad.
I think Ashley Young is on his way somewhere.....Most members of the alleged "big 4" (and Villa for that matter) have been or will potentially be directly weakened in some respects by Man City's spending and could use him, if they rate him as highly as many seem to. I'm not so sure about him, nor Abonglahor for that matter.
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The best manager for the job out there without a club at the moment is undoubtedly Gordon Strachan imho.
If we are bought out, and a new owner appoints someone who isn't Shearer, we as supporters really wouldn't be doing ourselves any favours by reacting in a strongly negative way.....especially with a badly spelt slogan on a bedsheet outside Shearer's bar. Maybe we need a break with the past, a completly fresh start. Appointing Shearer comes with as much negative baggage as it in many ways seems like a good idea in a way.
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When they really just ripped Benfica off
Aye, the "Eagles of Lisbon"
pre match entertainment at the ''Estádio da Luz''
what do you think the mackems would use if they tried to copy that as well?
something involving Niall Quinn's pet budgie?
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Benfica's ground I think.
It sounds mint in foreign like.
''Estádio da Luz'' wiki says.
Bob Young said it was to do with those two tilly lamps outside the main entrance....."keeping the lights burning in memory of those who lost their lives working at monkwearmouth pit" etc etc....
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Whereas people don't care about Sunderland either way, they never have and never will.
Sunderland, famous for Newcastle, why is why you used pictures of Newcastle in your world cup bid, pan that camera up a bit and you can see our ground for fucks sake!
See, still deluded. Are we not discussing football teams here rather that the regions surrounding them? I see nothing wrong in promoting the whole region. It is purely geographic and nothing to do with the football team that play in the region. It seems you try to grasp at anything. It proves the point even more, your phycosis is unable to accept your position in the football league.
why do you bother to chew through the straps every morning mate?
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well having read through this post I see that many of you are still, arrogant, pompous and deluded. You want to really know why you get more viewers on televised matches? People want to see you fail not win.
It is because of your pretentiousness over the years that this has happened. Even the media want to see you fail. That's why you have quite a few televised games from the fizzy pop league.
You just can't stop being arrogant with your heads up your jacksies even when your closest rivals are now better than you. These are all the reasons other fans and the media want to see you fail.
Why oh why do you all think that Newcastle deserves better? They certainly do not. Afetr many years and many managers and much financial backing in that time, you have achieved diddly squat.
Try being more humble and accept your fate and you might become most peoples' second favourite team again instead of one of the most depised.
You joined just to say that?
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That scouse bird who got beaten up and half the spurs team?
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Confirmed...what the fuck were they thinking of in the first place?.....what about a home game on the Saturday then folk can go to the SBR game on the Sunday?...
http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsD...1721386,00.html
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I'm new to this board, didn't know (though not surprised), that SAFC fans want to be part of anything to do with Newcastle.
fuck me there goes the neigbourhood
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isnt testicular cancer treatable in something like 90% - 95% of cases if caught early enough?
Dont know much about the brain cancer side of things though
Any quacks aboot?
Usually it's easily treated but it's normally localized to the testicles or thereabouts at diagnosis.
Don't know specifically about this case but I'd imagine it must be quite advanced to have caused symptomatic metastases in the brain, sounds like he's been very unlucky. Hopefully he will respond to chemotherapy because that will be his only hope now.
Aye I know fuck all about cancer, but assume the stuff in his nads had gone unnoticed for a while for it to have spread to his brain. I had a nad scan once -piece of piss tbh, and genuinely not worth being a twat and not going to the doc out of embarrassment etc. They had to build a new ward to house them like but once that was sorted it was no bother.
It sounds a bit like what Lance Armstrong went through in the mid nineties.....he had testicular cancer which had spread to his brain.....obviously no one is party to the prognosis the JH's doctors have given him, but this really doesn't sound too good for the bloke. Any cancer that has spread i.e. not been caught early is obviously not a good thing. But Armstrong's story shows that you can pull through and in his case acheive incredible things. Best of luck to JH.
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looks much the same if you ask me