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They were indeed...I heard it clearly on test match special driving home from work on Friday...Jonathan Agnew wondered why the crowd were applauding. I'm sure he was concetrating on what was happening on the pitch and it's usually a pretty stupid thing to pigeonhole people but I did think "what a stupid thing to say you middle class fuckin prick"

He seems to gloss over that he was an absent father, only concerned with booze,betting and other women, but obviously it doesn't state that his bairns went without because of this. Or you may have another source for this? (tabloid kiss and tell?) What did they go without? their old man being around almost certainly, but anything else?...

Some lines from Sir Bob's autobiogrphy "Farewell but Not Goodbye" On some of the players he's managed ( and discovered by himself in some cases): To this list ,as he says himself in the book you can add the early development of Luis Figo at Sporting Lisbon and his immense regard for his skipper at Barcelaona,their present coach Josep Guardiola.Whilst Genaral Manager at Barcelona he told his replacement as coach Louis van Gaal to forget about signing Steve Macmanaman as Sir Bob felt he didn't scored enough goals and he should instead sign Rivaldo from Olimpiacos. He also gave the likes of Peter Beardsley,Stuart Pearce,Paul Gascoigne,Chris Waddle and John Barnes their first England caps. It's also interesting to note that he felt that Kevin Beattie at Ipswich Town was the finest English player he'd seen since the great Duncan Edwards of "Busby Babes" fame...and Sir Bob would know, having played in the same England team as Edwards. It is truly incredible the length of time Sir Bob's career in Football spanned, about a third of the period of time that professional football has existed in this country. On his appointment as Newcastle United manager in 1999: In his first match in charge at St James' Park we played Sheffield Wednesday: In the final lines of the book,Sir Bob describes his being granted the Freedom of the City of Newcastle upon Tyne on the 2nd of March 2002, an honour he says that makes him feel even prouder than his well deserved knighthood the same year: RIP Sir Bob.

http://www.vflwolfsburg.de/52383+M51706552993.html they were surely taking the fuckin piss when they appointed this bloke

the original: looks much the same if you ask me

You're almost certainly right in saying that, but for me it's the wrong reason. Because of the 2007 credit crunch and the subsequent world recession (which was the precise point the club was sold to Ashley) the level of debt and player wages we've been carrying for the last few years means we would've almost certainly seen a financial meltdown at the club whether the Halls (did they see the shit approaching the fan and get out sharpish?...I'd say yes, and subsequently forced the ill at the time Shepherds hand when Ashley came calling) and Shepherd had sold the club or not. All our relative success over the Shepherd years was acheived entirely on borrowed money, as Ashley, fool that he is, has subsequently discovered. I don't know if you'd rather suffer the ignomy of the club going tits up (if no buyer comes in thats where we're heading, Barclays will pull the plug on the overdraft currently financing the running of the club before you can say "Spanish brothel") for the sake of the few games in the champions league and a couple of FA cup final appearances, but that is what you seem to be suggesting? Correct me if i'm wrong in this assumption, but again with the benefit of hindsight, there may have been another way to build the club up after KK's first period as manager. I've enjoyed the last 18 years as much as anyone, never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd see us play in the San Siro or the Nou Camp, but the price of that ticket may well be very high indeed. Ashley has been an utter disaster for the club but for me it may well have happened anyway.The likes of Villa,Spurs,Everton and even bloody Fulham seem to be riding out the financial crisis in a pretty astute manner, but we've crashed and burned. Don't know if this is because we're just a sympton of all that is wrong in modern top level football or Shepherd really is the bullshitting buffoon he comes across as. I suppose time will tell.

If you are referring to Ashley as the fat cunt I would suggest you direct your anger elsewhere on this occasion. The fat cunt had nothing to do with this atrocious result. It had everything to do with the players on the field and gawd knows there were enough of them out there, and the jokers who put them out there who obviously still don't have a clue as how to field a winning line up when your only absentees are Bassong, Ameobe & Rtaylor and you're playing a League 1 team. Nolan as centre-forward? gimme a fucking break. I thought you said Shepherd [you know the bloke along with Hall who gave us one of the best teams in the country for the best part of 15 years] was the fat cunt ? Yesterday is down to the players, but if the players aren't good enough and there is no positive leadership and direction in the club, that is not the fault of the players. Sometimes I wonder if you really are as old as you say you are or just had your head in the sand for decades pre-1992, and I know the answer too. It is going to get worse if the club is not sold. lets not be silly now fucking hell, and here's me thinking regular european football makes you one of the best teams in the country. well im sorry to piss on your parade, but it doesn't. you can get into europe by finishing half way down the league, or lower. a lucky cup run fair play league etc you can go and count the number of top 6 league positions, and you can compare the amount of top 6 league positons for decades previous to 1992, and the 2 years since Ashley bought the club whenever you like. Take your time. With the huge benefit of hindsight, was it all worth the sort of debt Shepherd put us in and which Ashley hasn't been able to or hasn't been willing to handle? Half a dozen games in the champions league and a couple of FA cup final appearances isn't really justifiable when you look at the outlay on players and wages that has put us in the posistion we find ourselves in today. Well, if you prefer to compete with the Charltons of this world by not trying to compete with the trophy winners [ a shameful stance anyway considering we are one of the biggest supported clubs in the country] then you have your wish because this is what Mike Ashley has returned us to, precisely what we were for decades pre-1992 Thats not really what I'm trying to say. Possibly if we'd have been managed and run by more competent individuals the huge debt may have been rewarded with real success? e.g. Shepherd letting Souness loose with 40mill a year after sacking Sir Bob. Chelsea were in huge debt before Abramovic bought them but had won 2 FA cups and a cup winners cup during the time Shepherd was chairman at SJP.

If you are referring to Ashley as the fat cunt I would suggest you direct your anger elsewhere on this occasion. The fat cunt had nothing to do with this atrocious result. It had everything to do with the players on the field and gawd knows there were enough of them out there, and the jokers who put them out there who obviously still don't have a clue as how to field a winning line up when your only absentees are Bassong, Ameobe & Rtaylor and you're playing a League 1 team. Nolan as centre-forward? gimme a fucking break. I thought you said Shepherd [you know the bloke along with Hall who gave us one of the best teams in the country for the best part of 15 years] was the fat cunt ? Yesterday is down to the players, but if the players aren't good enough and there is no positive leadership and direction in the club, that is not the fault of the players. Sometimes I wonder if you really are as old as you say you are or just had your head in the sand for decades pre-1992, and I know the answer too. It is going to get worse if the club is not sold. lets not be silly now fucking hell, and here's me thinking regular european football makes you one of the best teams in the country. well im sorry to piss on your parade, but it doesn't. you can get into europe by finishing half way down the league, or lower. a lucky cup run fair play league etc you can go and count the number of top 6 league positions, and you can compare the amount of top 6 league positons for decades previous to 1992, and the 2 years since Ashley bought the club whenever you like. Take your time. With the huge benefit of hindsight, was it all worth the sort of debt Shepherd put us in and which Ashley hasn't been able to or hasn't been willing to handle? Half a dozen games in the champions league and a couple of FA cup final appearances isn't really justifiable when you look at the outlay on players and wages that has put us in the posistion we find ourselves in today.

Thing is its not costing Ashley, its costing the club, its being added to the overdraft and sometime soon the bank is going to come knocking. As things stand there is no light at then end of the tunnel, if we continue on forking out that kind of figure every week then the overdraft must be increasing currently by at least £1.8m per week (totally guessed figure but I cant see us making enough sales of that yellow shirt and everything else to give us our cut of more than 200k per week). So that means that in the last 9 weeks since the season ended we've added another 16m to the overdraft, yes the season ticket sales will have gone a long way towards it but watching nearly 2m going out each week with no sign of anything coming in and Barclays will pull the plug themselves. This is the bottom line.....Ashley's not putting another penny into the club, and we're on borrowed time with the bank.....I think buyers may be waiting for Barclays to pull the plug and come in when we are in receivership/administration or whatever the fuck out status will be then....debts get wiped out but we lose 12 points.....but Ashley will have fucked off to run up some more gambling debts somewhere else, the fat cunt

Today, much against my better judgement and only in an effort to preserve my loyalty points, I purchased 2 season tickets (there are two of us in this sorry situation) for the Leazes Corner level 7, section C. I'm wondering if anyone would like to go halfers on the ticket/s? with the added advantage of both of us ST holders living "darn sarf" and aren't really planning on travelling to too many home games.......so you will basically have the ticket/s for 80%-90% of the home games, and as we are both in the away season ticket scheme there may well be one or two away days availiable (these wouldnt be included in the ST price as they are charged to us per match) The season ticket price is £390, so you could get to nearly all home games next season for £185. if anyone is interested please send me a PM

Great piccies Craig I'm pretty sure I was at all those games (yes I'm really that old ) apart from the Swindon game in the cup......got fuckin locked out! Wasn't Lou Macari investigated for betting against his own team in that game which was part of the reason why they got demoted in 1990 after winning the play offs v the tramps? The Charlton game was I remember when I knew we'd get relegated the last time.....awful performence, we were so bored stood in the Scoreboard we started setting fire to discarded copies of the Chronicle.....Alan Oliver was a fuckin bullshitter in those days too

The club are forcing the players into a corner....another 10 days of no action on the sale of the club and transfer requests will be flopping on to the sjp mat quicker than you can say "don't care if my contract isn't paid up up" which is ironically more than likely just what the club want.

Only one left now...Harry Patch, the only man left alive who fought in the Flanders trenches at Passchandale. In Austrailia I think the last Gallipolli vet is going to or actually got a state funeral......don't know if I agree with that or not? rip Henry

thats the same cunt who,when a member of their board, advised spurs to have a d.o.f. as well......they sorted that fuckin mess out last December by appointing a manager with proven ability and giving him 20 odd million to spend in January. What did we do......?

WKL gleefully dancing on the grave before it's even been filled in: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/ju...mbargo-takeover "unnamed source" blah blah blah......but is Ashley trying to force the players into a corner to try and get them to hand transfer requests in so he doesn't have to pay their contracts up?

Danny B Lite what happened to that fucker?...did he get banned in the end?

Just spoke to the ever helpful box office...... this is on nufc.com today: according to the b.o. thats bollocks. There is no memebership scheme in place for this season......yet.... Applications from season ticket holders are invited up till August 1st, then any remaining will go on public sale. With one thing and another, I'm not sure about renewing my season ticket, but I have enough loyalty points have been invited to apply for an "away season ticket" last season and this seaon.So I sent the away ST application off but not the home one, as the wording of the application made no mention whether you had to have a home season ticket or not,it basically said it was done on loyalty points accrued,of which I have over 100. I saw the ticket informtion on nufc.com and logged in to see if I'd got my ticket for West Brom set aside. Seeing no evidence of this I phoned the box office. They've just told me I need to have a home ST if I want to take advantage of the "away ticket offer", which they say isn't an "away season ticket" and isn't described as such. Which is frankly bollocks, it was described as such in the literature.The bottom line in all this is you're almost certainly going to have to have a ST to get a ticket for West Brom, which is pretty much the same as last season I suppose, but with nufc.com saying theres a members sale on at the moment and the club saying there isn't a memebership scheme anyway, I can see there being a lot of confusion about this. The other thing is if you have any loyalty points at all and you don't take a ST this year then you start next season with zero. Cunts.

France won the world cup with Stephane Gui'varch up front on his own.

I think Ashley Young is on his way somewhere.....Most members of the alleged "big 4" (and Villa for that matter) have been or will potentially be directly weakened in some respects by Man City's spending and could use him, if they rate him as highly as many seem to. I'm not so sure about him, nor Abonglahor for that matter.

The best manager for the job out there without a club at the moment is undoubtedly Gordon Strachan imho. If we are bought out, and a new owner appoints someone who isn't Shearer, we as supporters really wouldn't be doing ourselves any favours by reacting in a strongly negative way.....especially with a badly spelt slogan on a bedsheet outside Shearer's bar. Maybe we need a break with the past, a completly fresh start. Appointing Shearer comes with as much negative baggage as it in many ways seems like a good idea in a way.

Aye, the "Eagles of Lisbon" pre match entertainment at the ''Estádio da Luz'' what do you think the mackems would use if they tried to copy that as well? something involving Niall Quinn's pet budgie?

Bob Young said it was to do with those two tilly lamps outside the main entrance....."keeping the lights burning in memory of those who lost their lives working at monkwearmouth pit" etc etc....

See, still deluded. Are we not discussing football teams here rather that the regions surrounding them? I see nothing wrong in promoting the whole region. It is purely geographic and nothing to do with the football team that play in the region. It seems you try to grasp at anything. It proves the point even more, your phycosis is unable to accept your position in the football league. why do you bother to chew through the straps every morning mate?

You joined just to say that?