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Like Roy Keane? He was probably meaning the likes of Veron, who for me was a great player,but didnt do much at manu. Probably because Keane was still around. a couple of good seasons out of Caddick, but he looks finsished at the top level now, going by Sundays performance. Fletcher came through the ranks, and is a good but not great player, funny how he can't get a run in the big games this season. Anderson, doubt if he'll "train on" tbh after lots of early promise. Thing is, for one of the biggest games of the season on Sunday, Fergie started with Giggs and Scholes, neither of whom has he adquetly replaced yet. And Fergie likely won't get the chance to now due to the Glazer's debt. Owen Hargreaves fits perfectly Newcastle's transfer policy at the moment, signing injured players on a free. Anyone know whats happened to Gosling? oh and Stephen Ireland, what went on with him last week?

I signed up for a couple of months - I only managed to get back to the comedian on my Dad's side - he was born in 1863 so beyond that you're down to parish records which are a nightmare. My surname is reasonably rare as was my Grandmother's maiden name so it wasn't that hard but my Mam's maiden name and her Mam's maiden name are both too common to allow much detail. Unfortunately the only remaining source for data was my Auntie who died before I started. One thing I noticed for those who preach about "better morality" in days of yore - both my Mam and Dad's parents' wedding dates were less than 9 months before the birth of their first kid (One was my Mam and the other my Dad's elder brother) so both were "shotgun" marriages. Maybe the difference was that they did get married (and both had long marriages as it happens). Doesn't bother me in the slightest of course. Aye, I think we look back at previous generations still with, in a very wierd way, a hangover from Victorian/Edwardian "moral values", which were apparently only on the surface if you look into it as you have done. The other phrase that strikes me about this is "every generation thinks that they invented sex" which has probably been a truism since the year dot, as Kevin seems to be illiustrating on here from time to time "Who do you think you are" for me is often a really interesting programme. Spike Lee was on the other night and he found out he was very likely a distant grandson of a white plantation owner in Georgia! Don't think he was too impressed with that. The best one though was when Alexander Armstrong was informed he was decended from the Hanorvarian kings of the 18th century (mad King George & co) and thus could trace his direct family line back to William the Conquerer...the look on the blokes face was priceless, he had to sit down to take it all in.

So did our lass, bit longer than 5 minutes though with 6 peeps to fill in. I said to her, in 100 years from now your great, great, great etc grand daughter will be researching this. I did a bit on Ancestry.co.uk a while ago - I found that my paternal great-grandfather who was originally from Berwick met his wife who was Cumbrian in Barrow in Furness before they moved to Jarra in about 1895. For the last 2 or 3 censuses his occupation was down as a steam mechanic or boiler worker so I assume he worked in a shipyard but for one of them (1891 I think) I'm sure his occupation was given as "Ethiopian Comedian" - I assumed it was a typo or the "Jedi" answer of the day as I'm sure he wasn't African Am keen on doing my mother's family as we know nothing about them, apart from her own mother's maiden name was Concannon, which if we're like most of the folk on "who do you think you are", is likely to be shorthand for the potato famine and lots of grief. Did you use the 14 day free trial on ancestry? what option did you go for after that and how far back did it get you?

Looks like Torres might be a bit of a Shevchenko.....brought in by Abramovich and quite possibly about as popular in the changing room as a fart in a spacesuit,. with his form suffering accordingly Imagine an owner dictating who came into the club...wouldn't happen here like....

Some Pinot Grigio / Pinot Gris is really nice but I think it's just most British drinkers like bland shite so that's what most of the stuff you get here is (same reason Carling, Fosters etc is so popular). i just recently discovered dry reisling. like a lot of brits, i naively thought all reislings were sweet and nasty but it's actually an absolutley lush grape. really minerally and crisp with some citrus fruits in there. about £10 a bottle for a good one mind so not cheap but well worth trying if you haven't already.

fuckin hell has his carer got the night off?

No shinpads or did Carrgher's studs make them disintergrate?...if you look at his other leg it really looks like he's not wearing any at all, which,when I played, was against the rules. Officials dont check things like that anymore, which may have kept him in the game, silly fucker. They tend to use the ones without straps and just stick tape above and below them. If there was anything there at all I don't think it would've caused that gash in the middle of the shin tbh. Doesn't excuse the tackle, as someone said earlier R Taylor was sent off for something similar.

No shinpads or did Carrgher's studs make them disintergrate?...if you look at his other leg it really looks like he's not wearing any at all, which,when I played, was against the rules. Officials dont check things like that anymore, which may have kept him in the game, silly fucker.

Bruce was born in the toon, and I said Tyneside anyway as an area. The whole North East area produced some of the best, thats pretty much unarguable. But that also must include County Durham. Which the survey rates very highly indeed. But it looks like it counted the 180 odd thousand who may have been born strictly within the city limits.Which is a completley unfair comparison.If they're not accepting Sefton as Liverpool then Jamie Carragher isnt included. If Birmingham has had 5 times the population since 1992 then its highly they're going to have produced more premier league footballers. The article does take population into consideration, but the bare bones of the actual survey doesnt. There's 200k down here in south east Dorset (Bournemouth,Poole and Christchurch) and off the top of my head there are 2 current premier league footballers from the area, Jody Craddock and Roger Johnson, and a probable future one in Adam Lalana at Southampton. Carl Fletcher was at West Ham but is from Poole. But the area is hardly known as a " hotbed of Football" So you're essentially correct when you say we don't produce as many top divison players as we should (especially for a city which produced Gazza,Pedro and Shearer) when you look at it like that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...ace-league.html The survey is specific in it's target areas, so how many first divison footballer's can we name from the 70s and 80s who were born in the City of Newcastle upon Tyne?...they'll be a fair few, but probably not as many as you'd think, but if you take the North East as a whole the picture becomes a lot better. And we're a far smaller city than those mentioned anyway,only 189 000, less than half of Liverpool and dwarfed by Birmingham, and probably Lambeth and Berkshire as well...Colin Bell is from Heselden and Bob Paisely from Houghton so we can't really count them...don't know if the survey wouldve counted Gateshead anyway, so even Gazza and Norman Hunter might not be in...can't count the Charltons either,Peter Ramage is from Ashington too....Harper doesnt count, neither does Steven Taylor...fuck me theres hardly any when you think about it...on Pedro's wiki it says "Longbenton, Northumberland" Pedro Kenny Wharton err....

England have just beat South Africa by 6 runs after only making 171 in their innings http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/sta...l/scorecard.stm

ffs Bin Dipper Vickers? Arson Grainger the kids name. Can you delete the post with his name pls mate. Why?...don't see the big deal to be honest, he's hardly an MI5 agent..

The club demanded he put one in. Yes RA, I'm not name dropping. ITK people will know who he is. He's a "face". Not saying your source is wrong, or that it didn't happen, but I think it's a bit disingenuous of carroll to put it about that he was forced to put in a transfer request. Theres no possible reason I can imagine that he had to do what the club told him on that score...he chose to make the request to make sure it went through. "Pawn" is a bit of a cliche, but thats pretty much what Carroll was in this deal. It was played out by powerful men who know the game, and the game is to move money around the sport so they can make even more money. He was lent on by the club and no doubt by his own (very dodgy, but normal by his own "profession's" standards) agent, Mark Curtis.

ffs Bin Dipper Vickers?

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Exactly, but read Carroll sentence he's an absolute knacker. If I was Ashley I'd be furious with him, it exposes just how dense they are. The evidence was there before anyway....the yank at Liverpool let the cat out of the bag by saying "the price for Torres was dependant on what Newcastle wanted for Carroll" and Torres stuck his transfer request in around 20th of January, plenty of time for us to line up someone better than Shefki fuckin Kuqi. But as you say, he probably doesnt realise he's just confirmed it with that pile of bollocks. I think KK is spot on, it'll be free transfers, unknown foreigners (will we get lucky twice? doubt it...) and out of contract crocks for us this summer.

The tribunal wasnt allowed to award Keegan any more than the 2million outstanding on his contract, the 25million was just a figure his lawyers plucked from mid air. The tribunal did find that Ashley and Dekka are nowt but a pair of unprincipled fuckin liars though

He laid into Man City when he left there too. And no doubt he'll do the same when he leaves us. It might well be a "point of no return" ploy to burn his bridges at Villa and ensure a permanent move to us. But he does come ovver as a bit of a whinger to say the least.

3 at the back seemed to be a Venables inspired fad in the nineties. Now no one in the top divison plays it anywhere near regularly. The idea was the spare man at the back would pick up the "Beardsley" or "Sheringham" playing in the gap between midfield and the player leading the line. I think most teams playing 3 up front (when attacking, only one when defending) nowadays put paid to it as you need 4 for a spare man v 3 coming at you. Its big failing was,as been pointed out, fullbacks not being able to do it, leaving teams with little or no width. The best manager at that system was Martin O'Neil, but even he had dropped it by the time he got to Villa. Thing of the past at the top level. Can anyone name a side who won any major silverware with that system?.....

Fuckin mental in Glasgow yesterday http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-central/2...-rangers-match/ Thats a midweek game in the clubs' own city when most, you'd imagine, were at work till about 5ish. And if you read the whole article it says thats an improvement on the last game a couple of weeks back as it was on a Sunday....and they've got to play each other twice more this season..fact is Strathclyde police cant afford to police these games in 2011 with all the cuts being implemented to the force, so they'll have more police interfearance with kick off times etc, which is shite for the actual football side of it, but with fuckin idiots like Diouf playing and twats like Lennon and McCoist (couldnt get a game for the mackems reserve team in the early 80s and had to go back to Scotland with his tail between his legs that cunt ) on the touchline actually in some sort of charge of the clubs, what do you expect? Close Scottish football; the only fixtures that matter have turned into a war zone

Is he getting banged up?...one of Raoul Moat's mates?

Am crumbling... heart and head are saying the same but.. the fat cunt has almost got me, £504 is a fuckin great price for a ST, that cant be denied...is today the cut off for the 12 month direct debit or did I just imagine seeing that on . cock earlier?..

What was he threatening to do to people on their walls? The post cuts off for me. Paul proving the power of the internet by uniting a shower of bickering twats behind 'laughing at the fat lad'. something to do with "raping their mothers" he clearly has some issues, which makes his inability to fit in on here all the more strange if you ask me

and now martins I was just thinking the same thing.....its a bit unreal, McLeish persuaded Carr to come out of retirement and now he's at Wembley winning a trophy. Fair play to Brum and to McLeish who's got to take a lot of the credit. Won loads at Rangers and now he's winning trophies with fuckin Birmingham City Is Mcleish in with a shout at the Man Utd job when bacon face finishes?...

So do I take it England won on fewer wickets lost? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/sta...l/scorecard.stm