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Got into rather a heated argument just 10 minutes ago with someone who basically spouted every Charlie Brooker-isms in the book about football. He happened to clock my St. George flag and went off on one. (yes I have one. It was given to me).
I retorted that that it's a bit of fun, a major world event (if not the biggest)and that I am a well-read graduate who's knuckles have never scraped the ground. I then told him to fuck off. It felt just like having a go at Mr. Brooker himself, much as I like his TV shows.
Charlie Brooker's Screen burn: World Cup'What puts me off the World Cup isn't the game but the hollow simulation of patriotism'(636)Tweet this (275)Comments (238)
Charlie Brooker The Guardian, Saturday 5 June 2010 Article history
An ethereal Bobby Moore standing proudly beside a lion, from the Carlsberg ad.
I wish I enjoyed the World Cup, if only for some fleeting sense of common unity with the rest of humankind. But I simply don't get it. A huge number of my fellow citizens tune in and witness a glorious contest of ecstatic highs and heartbreaking lows. I see 22 millionaires ruining a lawn.
If the fans want to enjoy their sport, fair enough. Judging by their rapt faces, I'm the one losing out. What puts me off isn't the game itself, but the accompanying patriotism; or, more specifically, the hollow simulation of patriotism used to hawk products throughout the contest.
Take the current Carlsberg campaign featuring an insanely jingoistic dressing room "pep talk" which blathers on and mindlessly on about national pride. "Know this," the voiceover whispers portentously, "that shirt you're wearing? Your countrymen would give anything to put it on." Really, Carlsberg? I wouldn't put down a sandwich to lift the World Cup, let alone pull a sweat-sodden sports jersey over my head. And would even the most committed fans really do "anything" to wear it? Would they saw their own feet off with a bread knife dipped in cat piss? No. They wouldn't. So stop lying.
Having grossly overestimated the cachet of said hallowed shirt, the ad treats us to a cameo from virtually every notable English sporting hero of the past 50 years, pausing briefly for a patronising moment of silence for Sir Bobby Robson, before depicting an ethereal Bobby Moore, bathed in heavenly light at the top of the tunnel, standing proudly beside a lion. The whole thing plays like a masturbatory dream sequence for Al Murray's Pub Landlord character, the punchline being that the whole thing is a sales pitch for a Danish brewing company. The tagline should be: "Carlsberg: as English as Æbleskiver".
The American confectionery company Mars is also keen to pat our patriotic behinds. It's paid John Barnes to jokily recreate his notoriously poor rap from the 1990 New Order single World In Motion. And – ha, ha! – it's hopeless. But if you're not familiar with the original, it just looks as though we, the English, have absymal taste in music. Tourists watching this advert in their hotel rooms will spread tales of our cultural ineptitude on their return home. Thanks for that, Mars. Incidentally, Barnes's lyric has been altered, so he's now rapping about "three lions on a Mars", which rather implies that the sacred England shirt that Carling was getting religiously excited about is, in practice, interchangeable with a calorific chocolate-and-nougat slab.
Japanese technology giant Sony is also capitalising on the World Cup. It's got an advert starring Brazilian star Kaka which aims to convince viewers to trade in their old TV sets for shiny new 3D ones. It's an exciting prospect, only slightly undermined by the fact that the World Cup is being transmitted in the UK by the BBC and ITV, neither of whom will be broadcasting any of the matches in 3D. In fact, if you want to watch the World Cup in three dimensions, you'll have to go to the cinema, where Sony plans to show it, in 3D, on around 50 screens. That'll mean leaving your brand-new 3D telly at home, of course. But never mind. You can watch Avatar when you come back. In 2D. Because the 3D version won't be out until months after the World Cup. So you might as well not bother getting a 3D TV till then. And come to think of it, it's probably best not to bother anyway, because Avatar is rubbish. (I couldn't stand that tribe of pious, humourless, surly blue luddites. Fuck their stupid tree. I was cheering on the bulldozers).
There are other adverts of course: Coca-Cola, Nike, Pepsi-Cola, BP, Blackwater Security, The Tyrell Corporation, Damien Thorn Enterprises and so on. All hitting the same phoney note of concord, all somehow cheapening the fun that millions will extract from the tournament itself. Not me, though. I'll be out of the country for the whole thing. When I think of all the adverts I'll miss, I'll try not to sob too loudly.
So did this gadge have a go at you for "the hollow simulation of patriotism used to hawk products throughout the contest."
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I know they're fighting for justice and I don't think they've had it, but sometimes you just have to let things go and move on.
their site says they're fighting "campaign to bring out the truth and ensure justice was to succeed"
what truth are they searching for?
One that skims over the fact that, regardless of any policing inadequacies, loads of ticketless scallies did pour out of the pubs and into the ground at five to three I'd imagine.
thats about the size of it.
Still, it isn't their fault.
and of course no other group of fans behaved in that manner on a regular basis in the 70s and 80s....
the other side of that coin is the mugging of ticket holding fans in the run up to their champions league final in Athens..theyre far from angels...cant see our lot behaving like that..
but the fact remains, large groups of people need controlling, to save themsleves from themselves if you like. And there was a massive cover up by the police and a smear campaign in a certain part of the written press...why did the "powers that be" think they needed to do that?...
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The thing I'm looking forward to seeing the back of is the sports direct monstrosity from the Gallowgate End....how much would an advert that size cost in the open market?....fat cunt
I not holding my breath though...
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He strikes me a a bloke trapped in a character, but the only times I've enjoyed seeing him on tv is when someone smarter and funnier is tearing him a new one.
Never mind the Buzzcocks springs to mind
I think theres a lot of truth in that, and its plainly where he pays the mortgage from....Harold Pinter appears to have been a fan...
Dyer has performed on stage, most notably in two plays written and directed by 2005 Nobel Laureate Harold Pinter: as the Waiter in the London première of Celebration (2000), at the Almeida Theatre, which transferred to Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, in New York, as part of the Harold Pinter Festival held there in July and August 2001;[15] and as Foster in the revival of No Man's Land (1975), at the Royal National Theatre, in London, during 2001 and 2002.[16][17] In March 2008 he played Joey in a revival of Pinter's The Homecoming (1964), directed by Michael Attenborough, at the Almeida Theatre, in London.[18] He also performed in Peter Gill's play Certain Young Men (1999) in London.[19]From 9 September 2009 to 3 October 2009, Danny Dyer appeared as Sid Vicious in a new play called Kurt and Sid in London's West End at the Trafalgar
but most of that seems to be a little while ago.....maybe he's just settled for the "geezer" pigeonhole....but there are probably more sides to the bloke than the one he presents to the public....thats hopefully true for some of us on here too
Aye, hopefully as you do come across as a bit of a knob. bite PL
"but you don't know anything about me!!"
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He strikes me a a bloke trapped in a character, but the only times I've enjoyed seeing him on tv is when someone smarter and funnier is tearing him a new one.
Never mind the Buzzcocks springs to mind
I think theres a lot of truth in that, and its plainly where he pays the mortgage from....Harold Pinter appears to have been a fan...
Dyer has performed on stage, most notably in two plays written and directed by 2005 Nobel Laureate Harold Pinter: as the Waiter in the London première of Celebration (2000), at the Almeida Theatre, which transferred to Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, in New York, as part of the Harold Pinter Festival held there in July and August 2001;[15] and as Foster in the revival of No Man's Land (1975), at the Royal National Theatre, in London, during 2001 and 2002.[16][17] In March 2008 he played Joey in a revival of Pinter's The Homecoming (1964), directed by Michael Attenborough, at the Almeida Theatre, in London.[18] He also performed in Peter Gill's play Certain Young Men (1999) in London.[19]From 9 September 2009 to 3 October 2009, Danny Dyer appeared as Sid Vicious in a new play called Kurt and Sid in London's West End at the Trafalgar
but most of that seems to be a little while ago.....maybe he's just settled for the "geezer" pigeonhole....but there are probably more sides to the bloke than the one he presents to the public....thats hopefully true for some of us on here too
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Has already signed for Arsenal according to an ITK in my work. He's normally pretty good.
Honest to god we could've got this type of player 6 years ago you know. Souness the anti christ.
We actually bought quite a lot of players of that calibre. You must have been asleep.
idiot isn't presumably going to pursue this.............
I can only think of Owen, who else?
Well in recent history skill wise and for all round footballing ability I'd say Bellamy and Robert...both different sorts of players to Cole but definetly in the same bracket ability wise...without them we'd have stayed a bog standard mid table team under Robson. They were the difference between 14th and 4th if you ask me.
EDIT: oh and we signed Titus that year as well
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Aye, I like Gerrard as skipper. Brings out the best in him.
After his gutless performance away to Russia he should have never held the armband again.
I dont know if thats a joke or not !
Neither do I!
if Gerrard is gutless, what does that make Lampard?....he goes missing for England more often than a blind man with alzheimers
When Ehgland were beaten at Wembley by Croatia in McLarens last match Gerrard was dreadful...thing is you couldnt say that about Lampard because he hid from the fuckin ball for an hour
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Is this the thread to mention that a fairly well placed source told me that we've put a bid in for Charlie Austin of Swindon Town?
He wants to come, has family in the city, but has a young child with a girl in the Bournemouth area and her and her family don't want him to move this far north.
I don't think he is actually that good....but if we do sell Carroll and Ranger goes out on loan then this may be one who is coming in.
Don't know if anything wil come of it but if it does you know where you heard it first
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Just watched Dave do his first PMQ's and must say it was a damn good performance.
We're talking about genuine answers to questions here not referring to ready made answers as became so commonplace under Labour.
Its clear as day that we now have the change and fresh start that was needed.
fuck off man that bird who used to post on here made him look like an amateur
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Will Rafa be informing tourists in Madrid about the specials board next season?
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liver...icle446441.html
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Will be supporting every team that plays against Portugal too btw.
With a passion. North Korea beating them would be better than us winning the World Cup as far as I'm concerned.
I know the Germans "always do well", but I honestly think they could be a surprise casualty of the group phase. The squad is as poor as it's been since Euro 2004 (and yes, I'm still bitter they didn't get beaten by Latvia like they deserved) and I reckon Serbia and Ghana will both cause them problems.
Stevie, the odds for a Serbia win against Deutschalnd might be worth a look.
They were beaten by New Zealand in Austria at the weekend one nowt
The fans rioted and Vidic had to make an appeal for calm in the stands.
A lot of folk say they're dark horses but looking at their side its not as good as even Croatia for me and they didnt make it.
Stevie makes a good point about climate, but a lot of sides have gone to Austria to prepare at altitude...away from the coastal cities (Cape Town, Durban) a lot of the games will be played at a height above sea level not many Europeans will be used to. Which sides this benenfits most is something I'm not sure about but it can be noted that Brazil are the only side to have won the WC outside of their continent....I think I'm right in saying theyve done it a couple of times? (Sweden 58 and Japan 02?)
But I think looking at the teams as a whole its much the same as the last one...no truly outstanding team/s so anyone of the countries who have traditionally done well and get a bit of momentum can conceivably go on to win it....that includes England, whose biggest assset for me is Capello.
As someone said above if England don't win, for old times sakes I'll be hoping Holland's defence can hold out and match their impressive forwards and midfilelders. Wouldnt mind seeing the Argies do well too...for Jonas like
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John Pienaar said on 5live that Cameron was woefully unprepared for the question and she'd done very well. Has anyone let the cat out of the bag on Wearside about where your friend spends/spent her time on Saturday afternoons?
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31 please TM
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No mention of Palace staying up after a 10 point deduction?...largely irrelevant anyway as it looks like they're going to be closed down tomorrow..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ace/8714650.stm
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Sounds a lot classier than my trip to Benidorm with the lads. But after years of going away with the ex, a week on piss in the sun with the lads should be just the job
I was there for a stag do 3 weeks ago and it was mint.........all the best people are going there this summer....saw Andy Carroll and Nolan on the Saturday night
Off to Albufeira for the first week of the world cup
Then a mate has got a new job.....looking after 500 chickens on Worthy Farm, Somerset,and as he's now a local he's entitled to 2 free tickets for Glastonbury Festival and he's punting one my way in exchange for a day on the piss
Might fit in a trip to Bilbao to see the Guggenheim Mueseum later on in August...getting the ferry from pompey and hiring a camper when we get there
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am I right in saying he made his debut away from home anyway?....did he also score?....cant really remember but I seem to recall he made his debut v Bristol City who we signed him from at Aston Gate...and he scored..maybe 2?....could be wrong but the comment is patent bollocks
Got 10 minutes and Swindon in a game we lost because the ref let them get away with murder, made his debut at home to Notts Co 1 goal in a 4-0.
I love it when journalists print hearsay which fits their story - getting a good kicking in the comments though.
Makes you wonder what the fuck the "editor" does for his money.....regardless of the nature of the paper, all of them are big on accuracy and this spells trouble for someone.
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am I right in saying he made his debut away from home anyway?....did he also score?....cant really remember but I seem to recall he made his debut v Bristol City who we signed him from at Aston Gate...and he scored..maybe 2?....could be wrong but the comment is patent bollocks
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Ive always thought an iphone was for fashion victims and flash harry/harriets, but a lad at work showed me his Wunder radio app on his 3g and now its made me want worldwide internet radio streamed through my phone almost as much as I want Ashley to open his wallet this summer...
The thing is, the Wunder radio download only works on 3 types of phone...iphone,blackberry or windows smartphone....I've got a Sony Ericcson W995 with 18 months left on a 2 year contract.
So..can anyone advise me the best way to go about getting this sorted out?...iphone and blackberry are pretty much out due to price, so I thought Id go down the windows smartphone route but frankly I've had a look on ebay and I dont really know wtf I'm looking at.....any advice would be greatfully received
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Its got to be yank and the 1970s for your top tv/film tecs for me:
Kojak
Shaft
Starksy
Hutch
Huggy Bear (theyd have done fuck all without the Hugster
)the aforementioned Columbo
into the 80s, honourable mentions to:
Crockett
Tubbs
the croc and their two hot female colleagues
The black guy/white guy combo from Hill Street Blues, they were always being investigated for being a bit bent..
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Went to see Dio at the Playhouse in Edinburgh in about 86 or 87.....was sort of dragged along, but it was fuckin great. He made a lot of noise for someone who was about the size of Wayne Routlegde
rip
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Just watched this weeks question time which I thought was excellent.
The angry new statesman man was well, angry. Simon Hughes, who I normally think of as an utter fruitloop, seemed to talk quite a bit of sense and Heseltine
he was just simply brilliant as usual. He just tells it how it is. Basically telling the audience to stop whinging about the hung parliament cos it was their fault for voting that way.
Yeah I saw the proto-facist cunt last night....he's blaming the electorate for the faults of the electoral system....he fuckin hates people,full stop, What a cunt....nothing to do with any of the 3 parties being too useless to elect then Tarzan?
But as has been said many times, PR would probably make coalitions the norm rather than the exception. As quite a few expressed on QT last night, the Lib Dems will probably get a good kicking at the next election making a clear winner more likely.
The big problem is that all three main parties are so close these days that there really isnt much of a choice.
aint that the truth....but it didnt stop Hezza glowering at the audience as if theyd just planted a bomb in the hotel he was staying in...did you see the look of contempt on his fuckin face?
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Just watched this weeks question time which I thought was excellent.
The angry new statesman man was well, angry. Simon Hughes, who I normally think of as an utter fruitloop, seemed to talk quite a bit of sense and Heseltine
he was just simply brilliant as usual. He just tells it how it is. Basically telling the audience to stop whinging about the hung parliament cos it was their fault for voting that way.
Yeah I saw the proto-facist cunt last night....he's blaming the electorate for the faults of the electoral system....he fuckin hates people,full stop, What a cunt....nothing to do with any of the 3 parties being too useless to elect then Tarzan?
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How England's north-east feast at Italia 90 turned into famineSince those heady days the involvement of the region's players in the national team has been on the Green Party side of marginal
Harry Pearson The Guardian, Friday 14 May 2010 Article history
The release of a film about the 1990 World Cup, One Night In Turin, was bound to bring with it a stab of regret, and not just because those of us who recall the tournament vividly are now of an age when melancholy proliferates like the hair in our lugholes. And if you come from the north-east of England the pang of nostalgia James Erskine's documentary provokes is likely to be all the more acute.
In one of the final friendlies leading up to Italia 90 England beat Czechoslovakia 4-2 at Wembley. It was the match in which Paul Gascoigne secured a place in the squad with a display so impish the opposition must have been tempted to check if he had a pointy tail. In the final minutes, having already set up two of England's goals, Gazza scored one of his own. Socks at half-mast, cheeks ruddy with effort, he soft-shoe-shuffled past two defenders and smacked the ball into the roof of the net with the explosive urgency of a schoolkid who has just heard the bell bringing break-time to an end. On the touchline, the England manager, Bobby Robson, wide-eyed and grinning fondly as a new dad, turned to his assistant Don Howe and cried: "That … is … fantastic!"
It remains my enduring image of Sir Bobby – a man who took such joy in football even the sight of a few workmen having a kickaround in the park was enough to distract him from his dinner. The thing I remember best about that game, though, is neither Gascoigne's performance, nor his manager's reaction to it, but a letter that appeared in this newspaper a few days later. It was written by a Tynesider and though the exact wording of it eludes me now, the message has stayed with me ever since. On Wednesday night, the writer said, England had defeated another of the World Cup finalists. The England team had featured three players – Gascoigne, Trevor Steven and Bryan Robson – from the north-east, three of the goals had been set up by players from the north-east, another had been scored by a player from the north-east, the team was captained by a man from the north-east and managed by one, too. "Tell me," the letter concluded triumphantly, "what does the rest of the country do for a hobby?"
I read that line sitting in a flat in the Old Kent Road. I imagine I laughed with glee when I read it and punched the air. The letter, or at least the sentiment behind, would inspire me to write a book about north-east football. It would, it is fair to say, change my life.
Looking back today, I can see that this missive represented a highwater mark for north-east football. England's team for the first game of the 1990 finals, against the Republic of Ireland, featured four players from the region – Gazza, Robson, Chris Waddle and Peter Beardsley (Steven was also in the squad). At the time it didn't seem like such a big deal. After all, hadn't England's legendary baggy-shorted forward line featured Wilf Mannion and Raich Carter as inside-forwards? Didn't the Charlton brothers help England win in 1966? Hadn't the squad Sir Alf Ramsey took to Mexico in 1970 – regarded by many as the best set of players we ever had – included the Charltons, Colin Bell and Norman Hunter?
I first went to a football match in 1967. By that stage no north-east team had won the league title for 30 years, the FA Cup for a dozen. Newcastle and Sunderland were struggling to stay in the top flight and Middlesbrough had dropped into the Third Division for the first time in their history. Yet, that year's News of the World football annual showed that 62 players from the region were employed in the First Division. There was at least one at every club, with the exception of West Ham. Howard Kendall, Jimmy Husband, Tommy Baldwin, George Armstrong, Ralph Coates, David Thomas, Mick McNeil, the Charltons, Bell, Hunter – for an area with a population hardly bigger than Birmingham's it was quite a list.
Through the 70s and 80s the pits and the steelworks and the shipyards shut, but it seemed like the north-east would churn out footballers for ever. Now, however, it looks like Italia 90 was a last howay.
Since then the involvement of the region's players in the national team – with the exception of Alan Shearer, and the fitfully fit Gascoigne – has been on the Green Party side of marginal. On Tuesday Fabio Capello's provisional squad of 30 included just two men – Michael Carrick and Adam Johnson – born in the region. In 2006 Sven-Goran Eriksson's final 23 mustered only Carrick and Stewart Downing – who managed 150 minutes of football between them. In 1998 Glenn Hoddle's sole north-easterner was Super Al. In Korea/Japan there were none at all.
Much has been written about Scotland's marked decline as a producer of talented footballers – whatever the causes of that slump might be they seem to have drifted south. Looking to raise my spirits, a friend comments that Waddle, Beardsley and Gascoigne emerged under a Conservative government. Another points to the emergence of Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson, the return to form of David Wheater. It is a time for clutching at straws.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/20...tball-world-cup
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I know it's a forlorn hope but how can UEFA sanction the country when "Beitar have never had an Arab player" - it's like the old firm 20 years ago.
What about Everton they refused to sign blacks till 1991.
Really?
Do Athletico Bilbao still only play people from the region?
Aye ATHELTIC it is. I've been there, best people ever. You'd get hung for calling them Atletico though, they were founded by English and hate Spanish rule, Franco forced them to change their name to Atletico Bilbao, but when he was ousted they reverted back to Athletic Club Bilbao. They only allow people who are born Basques to play for them, there was huge ruptions about Bixente Lizarazu, when he played for them because he was french basque, and they weren't convinced he was pure enough.
Sorry bout that
Incredible that they've managed to survive as a club, sticking to that. I saw an article recently about them playing the first black player in a friendly.
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aye theyve relaxed it a lot in the last few years...lads with spanish names have turned out for them, but I think youve got to have some basque ancestry still.
isnt that what Sir John Hall wanted to do with us?
Spain win 2010 WORLD CUP.
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Why does Maradonna prefer Higuain to Milltto?.....is it because he's fuckin radged?