PaddockLad

Same goes on at the sportsdirect@stjamesparkstadium Has Gordon been attacked by anyone at SJP?...or any of your other players by fans invading the pitch?..

Possibly youve only got yourselves to blame for 10 years of rank stupidity at the sol by your lot when weve played there....but there again is anyone that surprised?

Am hearing the game at the stadio del shite is now at midday on sat 20th August....

Nick, do you ever sometimes think wether it's worth chewing through the straps every morning?

Well she fucked them unions alright and thanks to Maggie you've got employment agencies all over the shop making money out of poor cunts just trying to make a living and companies hiring and firing on a whim as its been made so easy for them, (most of these blokes are earning far less then permanent employees). Maggie also privatised the utilities and made a quick and easy buck and encouraged people to buy shares and get mortgages so they'd have have to work no matter what, (hence the poor buggers working for these agencies on little more than the minimum wage because they'll be chucked out their home by the bank if they spend time looking for a proper job). Basically a company can do whatever the fuck they like, I should know, 2 bastard days notice of a change in shift pattern and £260 a month pay cut and a completely lacklustre response from a joke union. We've the best economy in Europe I believe, or we had the best economy in Europe. We've also got the worst working conditions and work the longest hours and if told to eat shit, must sit down and open wide and swallow it all. The lengths this fucker went to nail the Miners was unreal, Policemen made fortunes as she more or less matched every striker with a cunt with a baton and a licence to use it at some picket lines. She had the backing in the media of utter cunts like Kelvin Mckenzie demonising any fucker who had sympathies to the miners or was anti-Thatcher. In the North-East orders for ships never seemed to go to Tyneside as there was no way it could gain any votes for her up here if she or her party did. Unemployment in the North-East was a 'price worth paying', her mate Tebbit told people like my dad to 'get on their bikes' and look for a job, when people affected by closing down their industries complained they were just 'moaning minnies'. She was no friend to the working man nor the North-East. Get in there my son, give the dying face bitch it where it hurts Post of the decade from Walkerville's answer to Wolfie Smith Seriously, Howman is completely correct about all this. If you in any way get your hands dirty for a living in this country you're treated like fuckin shite and it all goes back to Thatcher.

James Murdoch and his hideous mid Atlantic accent on 5live as we speak, denying till he is blue in the face that he and Brooks knew nothing of the huge sums of money being paid to PI's and police officers, then bullshitting his way through a piss poor explanation as to why the likes of Gordon Taylor was paid in an out of court settlement 2 years ago when he threatned to tell all. The journo (Tom Bradury of ITV) has pressed him repeatedly about Brooks knowing full well that she "wasn't running a newsroom, but a huge data gathering organisiation" but Murdoch said he "can't comment on an ongoing police investigation", and giving her his full backing in her cooperation in the investigation by the police force she was allegedly paying huge sums of money to for recently bereaved people's phone numbers. Theyve just had a reporter on from the NOTW offices who basically said the biggest threat to Brooks's safety now is from her former employees who are a bit miffed at her "I'm sacking all you lot but, ( almost in the words of David Brent) on a brighter note, I'll be keeping my own job" speech at the staff meeting to announce the closure of the 155 year old publication that, under her leadership, has ceased to exist. Once the police investigation (now thankfully under the watchful eye of the Police Complaints Commision) has done with her and the file has gone to the CPS I think she'll be get a huge payment to buy her silence from her present employers and quietly let go....with a nice spell in Holloway to look forward to.

Aye Killa is a good shout but theres been one since him in 87

Last captain of an FA cup winning team not to have played for his country?

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/201...rld-update.html Cameron has said today that they'll be a public enquiry into the first enquiry by the Met into this carry on. I wonder if the poor bloke who was on 5 live this morning laying into a News International executive will be called to give evidence? The exec naturally apologised profusely to the man who just happened to be the father of a victim of the July 7th bombings. The exec asked for the man's number to be passed on to him by the BBC so they could explain the ins and outs of what has gone on. "youve already got it" he answered, to which the exec said that they didn't, and that the list of people targeted was in the hands of the Met. Which is sort of ironic, when the payments mentioned in the VF article above were to officers in the Met in exchange for the phone number's of victim's families over a period of years earlier in this decade. Authorised you'll notice by Andy Coulson, the man Cameron thought was a good,safe pair of hands to run his media department. Fuckin despicable practices. It'll all take years to fully come out and if you ask me the Met investigating the Met and Rebbeca Brooks "leading" the News International investigation are just sick fuckin jokes. Don't know what we can expect from the public enquirie(s).....they are likely to be many years in the future and some being called may well have done time for it....unlikely to be Murdoch, Coulson or Brooks though... but if you ask me they should be left in a room alone with Milly Dowler's parents and a baseball bat.

CT are you suggesting that clubs have only had to balance the books since last season? And Spurs got rid of Commolli because Harry wants to get sacked if he fucked up, not if someone else did. Thats the bottom line in this, to stand or fall by your own abilities. Pardew doesnt seem to mind. I would if I were offered the job at NUFC. Beautifully illustrated by Redknapp himself whe Mort got a polite but firm 'no' when he offered to him. For the record Spurs were bottom of the league when Harry went there and last season played in the quarter finals of the european cup. Yes hes had to sell to buy to acheive that, but spurs got a man with real ability. We got relegated. See the difference?

Paddocklad is suggesting that Carr is acting as a sort of DoF, see above. I don't disagree with your analysis of Llambias, although I bet he enjoys calling the shots. The question is whether Pardew has much involvement in transfers in and out; as time wears on I've become more convinced he doesn't play any significant part in either, although I expect his opinion would be canvassed at some point especially regarding incomings and squad needs. It's inconceivable that he'd be totally in the dark but the Carroll episode suggests he knew fuck all about his transfer out, similarly he said consistently he'd like to keep Nolan, only to see him sold. He seems to be up to speed with Enrique and Barton's situtationa but that's possibly because nothing has happened yet. I suspect he's loosely kept in the loop from time to time but has no say in outgoings and probably very little on incomings. That's what the current situation suggests to me anyway based on his public comments vs what actually happens. Regarding his stubborness, it depends on whether you think he signed up to this way of doing things when he took on the job. If he did, he's got nothing to be stubborn about, imo. He'll be presented with the final squad on 31 Aug and he'll get on with his job in the meantime. Interesting concept, that the head scout reports to Llambias. Can't see it myself, but I can buy into Llambias getting a run down on what scope there is for development (increasing resale value). I totally buy into Pardew having little say on out goings - Saylor being the obvious exception. Carr was recruited and is employed by lambchop and may also be shown the door by him if things dont go well next season, as the chief scouts of West Ham and Birmingham found out to their costs. Fergie was appointed in a different era, and basically in a different universe football wise so CT and anyone else using him for comparison on this issue is basically using the wrong man. He appoints all his own scouts and they report to him. He also has final say on who comer and goes,even at academy level. All that is in his autobiography. The better comparison is with Pardews playing peers, those of a similar age....I think if someone was brought in over Steve Bruce's head and started telling him which players he could and couldnt have hed tell Niall Quinn to shove it up his arse. Which is basically what KK told lambchop and Wise two or three years back.Some managers want to live or die by their own decisions, others are willing to let their employment be affected in a huge way by the judgement of others. Football is changing in that regard, but not for the better if you ask me.

Are there many managers who have much more control? I doubt there are many premiership managers with less say. imo we have a contintental system, which was the original idea when Ashely came on board, where the manager coaches/picks the team and the transfers/infrastructure issues are handled by a director of football. Our director of football used to be Wise and is now Derek Llambias. In reality I expect Pardew has an input on what's needed but not much more than that. I expect Graham Carr has a major say but I suspect it's the brains trust of Llambias and Ashley that's shaping the squad and our transfer policy. This is all purely conjecture on my part of course but I just get the feeling about Pardew that he's a bullshitter. He always seems to be catching up on the news - Carroll, Barton, Enrique, Nolan etc - as though he's had no real involvement in decisions. Nailed by Kitman. Thought this when he jumped into Hughton's grave, think it now, seen nothing to make me think otherwise. Re. the continental system , I agree Kitman, the truly worrying thing is that it does appear that the Toxic Twins are acting DOF's. My blood runs cold. Agree almost entirely with you both but for me Graham Carr is now the DoF....in charge of recruitment, which was I think Dennis Wise's title, or at least part of it. Carr is now the most important figure on the football side of the club. He seems to have a good eye for a player, and he'll scout them and perhaps even make the "official" first move for a player, probably by having a word with the player's agent. If the response is positive, I imagine lambchop then tries to sort a deal with the player's club. Whether Pardew has issued a "I want a player for this posistion or who can do this or that for the team" list is pretty much unknowable. I tend to agree though Pardew seems to be dealing with the hand he is being dealt and being a diplomat in return for a shot at the biggest job of his career. Think back to his press conference when he joined to see how much support he enjoys from the upper echelons of the club, even at the start of his tenure here. A puppet in all but name. The system works well on the continent in certain cases, it is the system thet made Lyon go from a nothing 2nd division club in 1989 to being one of the top sides in Europe for almost a decade,from a relatively "poor" league too. And it is undoubtedly the case that rich owners want more control over expenditure. Steve Kean is in a similar positon if you ask me, but Steve Bruce would walk if he couldnt choose his own players and it undoutedly contributed to Alex McLeish leaving Birmingham. I doubt if Grant had much say in who came in last January at West Ham, according to the non-bearded dildo seller's comments on relegation anyway.At West Ham and Blackburn it would appear that the board go straight to the agents and say "who can you get me?" and look at where West Ham ended up and listen to Blackburn's fans fears for the coming season. It appears to be a road we may be heading down too....the only possible saving grace is Graham Carr is a "football man" (so was Kevin Keen at West Ham mind) but it doesn't alter the fact that if we're bottom of the league at xmas Pardew will in all likelyhood be given his cards and he'll not have had much of a say in who is in the team he's picking each week. But he's made his own bed so I guess he and us will all have to fuckin lie in it

Theres 10s of thousands of reasons every week why not...far too many for Ashley anyway. Any chance that Bridge's agent is planting 'come and get me' stories in the press?

Weve approached his club but theres muffin to suggest hes on his way...

Lord of the flies ring any bells?.. And the internet is supposed to be about freedom of expression...not who the cool kids think is ok. It is a bit like schoolyard bullying at times tbh.

I was born where I live now, in Poole, Dorset. Why I support Newcastle United is a long and mostly very dull story

After Sholas goal at Leverkusen in the champs lge a few years back the camera pans across the crowd and I can clearly be seen bouncing across the screen from right to left...which was a bit of a result as thanks to the MP's belonging to the British Army of the Rhine who were 'policing' the away turnstiles we had missed Lua's opening goal. After the game we had one of the best post game piss ups its been my pleasure to attend at Cologne's only gay/lesbian/trans gender club which opens on a Tuesday night, which culminated in around 100 completely arseholed Mags on the dancefloor singing with the house band as they played 'hey jude' :-D

Martin Samuel is a well known West Ham United fan. End of thread.

err...thought you might be looking for some mags down south to go to games with never mind if not. Shame you'll miss Wyclef though

Thats fuck all, Wyclef Jean is gone till November If your looking for idiots on the south coast who favour NUFC, I may be able to help...

Obviously the complete waste of money on Gosling (so far...) and Ireland hasnt deterred our recruitment team...false economy getting rid of Nolan and more than likely Barton and then signing apparently more players with either current or dubious histories when it comes to injuries. Too many players without premier league experiance to blend in too if you ask me. Another huge gamble from fat Mike, which is par for the course with him I suppose.

We payed his agents 2mill seemingly just to get to speak to him. Maybe thats why Everton didnt get involved...? Oh aye, I can see Ashley falling for that one. Not Well the Daily Mirror aren't above reporting 'internet rumours' so make of this what you will but they said on wednesday that we were paying his people 2mill to make sure he joins us. Seeing as there is no fee involved to West Ham then it looks like whoever payed the agents the most got to speak to the player. Thought it was a bit strange at the time when I read it like...the club has to say how much agents fees are each season doesnt it? Any idea when?..

We payed his agents 2mill seemingly just to get to speak to him. Maybe thats why Everton didnt get involved...?

Ok so you're using Sunderland as an example, yet its in a different area completely and is again a one club city. I see what you are trying to say, but at the end of the day your point isnt exactly a fair comparison. Manchester would be one that you could compare Liverpool too as this is also a true 2 club city.... Tyne & Wear aint. Anyway this is all getting rather tiresome... Its the same old shite debate, you love your club, I love mine, lets just move on from it as no-one gives a shit... we'll pick up the debate again in the future no doubt, mainly when we finish above you yet again next season or when Ba's knee implodes in the 1st minute of the 1st match of the season I'll keep any info I get regarding your club to myself in future... you're all very defensive and even if I had a video of the negotiations in which Ba gets a £70k a week contract you would still all get up in arms about some Toffee on here daring to tell you something that's not from a geordie lol! It would be nice to share info without hostility, but I guess there's no such thing as a perfect world eh? You mentioned the 'one club city' thing and I was just illustrating that if you look at population (and if you want to, trophies won in the last 40 odd years..and lets face it, you do) that there should be far more people watching football on Merseyside. You can offer an opinion why if you want, but no worries if you don't. Just wanted to make the point. And try not to beleive uncheckable sources on the internet. It does make you appear rather foolish in this thread, and,it has to be said,suffering from a nasty case of sour grapes. ps....you may want to consider how much we payed the player's agent/s if you want to get to the real reason why he came here.

Choke, cough, splutter, gargle..... That should say 'Tyne and Wear' but the point remains...posting on my phone etc etc :$