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Its looking like we've all been played, draw the sting of the fans abuse with the whole "arena" thing, then slide in an even more odious sponsor, who changes the name back again. Thing is about Ashley, theres always a sting in the tail. Can Wonga tag their name on to the stadium after a couple of seasons?...the journos had better have asked them that. He's usually incapable of making 2 good decisions in a row, he needs to spend some fuckin money in January or all this good PR will be wasted.

Ok how are Northern Rock morally superior to Wonga?...

Of course am not read what I've posted man. Without the financial crash I doubt if Wonga wouldve been big enough to sponsor a dograce at Brough Park. One caused the other. And iyam NR and RBS have caused a lot more misery than Wonga ever will. They know their market, most of whom won't have to google individual voluntary agreement.

Whats that got to do with it though?...Wonga didnt exist till 2007...is that a coincidence?...we didnt utter a dicky bird about NR causing this government to slash everything to the bone which in all likelyhood forces people to go to the likes of Wonga....and as you pointed out theyve existed for a very, very long time in one form or another, and that "market" in particular is usually regulated by fuckin baseball bats. As a group of supporters, we cant stay silent about NR and then throw our hands up about Wonga, its hyporcritcal iyam.

We were sponsored by Northern Rock man I think I'd feel the same as yourself if it wasnt for that inconvenient fact....we havent got a lot of room to talk tbh about morally sound busnesses being associated with the club...iyam Northern Rock caused the conditions for Wonga to exist

Wonga has done roaring trade in the recession, with profits rocketing 269% to almost £46million last year. The company, which only started in 2007, says its success is due to high customer satisfaction and top-notch technology. Wonga offers short-term loans of up to £1,000 and promises to send the money within 15 minutes of it being approved. A stinging annual interest rate of 4,214 per cent is charged, although Wonga dismisses that as irrelevant because it loans cash over much shorter periods. The company was founded by South African-born Errol Damelin, who now lives in London. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2215020/We-wont-step-inside-Wonga-Arena-Newcastle-fans-hit-24m-sponsorship-deal.html#ixzz28nfyWQ00 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8149199 Xisco returns v Villa tomorrow night....cheers for that Dennis, fabulous value Were there any Wise signings who did ok?.....was Enrique one of his?...

Despite BAE closing Armstrongs? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bae-factory-on-banks-of-tyne-to-close-after-165-years-of-weapons-manufacture-7808526.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19869286 the media spun his appointment as "ooh, he's Glaswegian, they've produced lots of managers...great tradition etc etc..." whilst neglecting to add only a couple of them have been any fuckin good

So was Rocky actually ASM?....its a name I remember, but thats it...was he an abusive amoral borderline personality disorder strap-on as well then?

Good points, very much agree....however, the North East was also home to Northern Rock and we wore that name on our shirts up until the middle of last season, 3 years after they had to be bailed out to the tune of 37 billion quid, all from taxpayers money. Wonga are morally bankrupt, NR went bankrupt and every one of us are paying that price. The government are using it and other financial fuck ups as an excuse to slash everything to bits. Wonga didnt cause any of that but are a successful business probably because of the likes of NR. It is a fuckin awful word though.

I think its all a ploy so Ashley can keep SD as the stadiumm name. Shirts only, keep our eyes off the "hidden" bonus in all this.

Just stumbled across this.....you tuning in Wolfy?......some lass on giving the dimensions of the biblical Ark....its bigger than the frigate am working on at Portsmouth Dockyard at the moment

Bit harsh on the bloke. How many other chaiman of the club have put a penny in, let alone 200 odd million?....

am not so sure....how much has Wonga cost the taxpayer? Wonga's morals may be questionable, but are they in a way just taking advantage of a situation that the likes of Northern Rock caused in the first place?....cant say I'm too impressed, but it may well be a shirt only deal which will let Ashley keep SD's advertising "deal" in place at SJP itself. 52k appeared to be able to put up with that yesterday.

Virgin were paying 3mill a season according to the daily mail.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2214546/Newcastle-United-sign-shirt-sponsorship-deal-Wonga.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DSportsmail%2BReporter We wore Northern Rock for how many seasons after 2008?.... are Wonga a worse brand than NR?...

Thats a fair proportion of any match going crowd you're on about there. I don't wear them, but I know and like many who do....each to their own?...it has saved us on the odd occasion from a bit of trouble too away from SJP....the Fred Perry/Stone Island brigade don't really want to mix it with The "shirts"

Its simple really, I object to sky changing what actually happens on the pitch during a game, they've changed every fuckin thing else. Surely commercialism should be kept away from how a simple game has been played for over 100 years? Its the thin end of the wedge this like, this is the line in the sand for those fuckers. Dont care about cricket, tennis or any other minority sport they now own. How the game is played on the pitch should be controlled by the officials and how they interpret the laws of the game, not by a commercial operation with their eye on their subscribers and shareholders. I know am largely alone in this,and I know that to some I sound like a luddite. I don't care and obviously you're all entitled to your own opionions on it, but once they get their claws into what happens during the game it won't end there. As I said, at that point FIFA may as well give up having anything to do with the laws of the game and hand control over to a TV company.

No, disagree. However unlikely things seem, they could happen. And if sky do get hawkeye used for this (and I've no reason to hope or beleive that they wont get it driven through) then FIFA might as well finally fuckin pack up and go home. Sky have changed days,dates,timings,finance,audience make up, admission prices, even how long half time is etc etc but they havent been able to change much of what happens during play in a game. This would just put the tin hat on it.

It also says that youve got to be able to see 25% of the ball which, if theres bodies actually on the line, may make it as good a yesterdays video. The second system seems top be the one...but sky (who are driving this, for all the wrong reasons) wont be happy with that...

What a cock end...as a member of a team, Hamilton is fuckin poison, regardless of how good a driver he is.

It might not in football...see the link...

Yeah but anything couldve happened in that period!...red cards, penalty awards....what do you do about them?..

heres the spiel on the two systems...cant see sky being happy with the second one which works better....and all this has come from them.... http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/goal-line-technology-does-164718522.html

They have actually trialled some stuff havent they?......cant see it being hawkeye, you're changing one of the fundamentals of the game if you stop play for every goaline decision iyam.