PaddockLad

See reply above, but its also a sum of things such as youve mentioned yeah. For me its a no brainer to get rid.

If he scores 30 for Liverpool or Spurs and they finish above us then yeah, its a big mistake to let him go. Cant see any other scenario where it would be detrimental though. This is how we make money for the football club, sign cheap, sell big. Its a business. Lets get on with it. Selling Ba this summer is good business.

Am still of the opinion that its bad business not to sell him this summer tbh....and if a club gets desperate towards the end of the window, so much the better...if theres a replacement lined up that is...

FYI http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/32559-mackem-messageboard-gold/

it took more than a change of name and sky money...the findings of the Taylor Report into Hillsborough forced through the most fundamental changes...and the Popplewell Report into the Bradford City fire in 1985. Dont think some of the worlds best players wouldve come to patched up Victorian and Edwardian stadiums for too long.

When a fee is agreed between 2 clubs, it sends a pretty strong signal to the player that his future lies elsewhere. The player's opinion historically didnt count for anything at all, but they do have a lot more say nowadays. But as I say, it does send the message loud and clear that hes not required.

weve got access to the bbc website.....but not to the live olympic streams

You need pace to play effectively in the Premier League...its the major difference between good and very good players. Lee Clark was a good player who lacked the pace to mark him out as a very good player. Don't know how Vukic will shape up but if you've not got the pace for the Premier League at his age...

I have a name in mind reported

Liverpool accepting the deal means they dont want Andy Carroll......unless someone comes in with a better offer he'll do a year on loan at West Ham whether he likes it or not.

6 pinter tbh

Theres not many 18 year olds break through nowadays but they seem to rate Adam Campbell highly and apparently manu are amongst some other clubs who sent scouts to Northern Ireland to watch him last week. Is his record any better than Chopra's at the same age though?....

Shes a good broadcaster like. Knows her onions and knows shes perfectly within her rights on the BBC to question shit like this. THe BBC dont have to keep advertisers and sponsors happy. I think the corporate world will get their fingers burnt if a whole nation's atheletes in certain diciplines are shown up to be mostly dopers. Watch this space.

Somebody said Claire Balding is getting grief for rolling out that stat live to the nation last night. Didnt see it myself. Fair play to Balders is she did.

I dont and I know the difference between someone having a laugh and someone being unecessarily personal. Its not a fine line, some people wouldnt stroll up to someone they vaguely knew in a pub and speak to them like they do on here. Taking the piss is fine, but there is a line in the sand iyam.

Yeah he was deeply unpleasant sometimes. No ones ever really picked on me on here and if they did I'd probably put it down to them being deeply unhappy as a person in general, more to be pitied tbh.

Whos in his "coterie" then? I cant stop you from quoting me when your only trying to wind somebody else up but fuckin cut it please out ffs, its what Leazes used to do. You may disagree with him on a whole range of things but you're basically just a different side of the same coin.

Yeah but how did it end up like that?....theres no reasoning with that type, but you probably gave it a go a few years back?.... people were still trying to make him see another side of things till quite recently. I really dont know why theyd bother. He quite often agreed with me, me being quite strongly anti Ashley and that, but I very rarely reacted to his comments because on virtually every other subject under the sun I disagreed strongly with his "black and white" view of things...if he'd got to his time of life without working out that the truth about most things is the grey area in between the black and white then theres no hope for him.

Aye, Lille maybe think we'll get desperate and give them what they want on August 30th. We're more likely to move on others though...I see Erik Peter's has reared his head again over the weekend....is he still injured?...

Its not a pub though, its an internet forum which made ignoring him easy iyam. He only abused those who vehemently disagreed with him, to do that they actually had to engage him. By then its too late, your cards marked and he knows you'll rise to the bait. If you choose to ignore in the first place, theres no problem.

Why wouldnt he say what branch of the services he was in?....he was either not telling becuase he knew people wanted to know and he got a kick out of not telling or it was a load of shite iyam. Either way, strange cat.

Oh dear The trouble with Leazes to me appears that he always has to be right, to the extent that it would appear thats all he really has going on in his life almost. Theres a significant minority of old folk like that, sadly its all they have.."ha..told you so!" and when its pointed out to them there may be a different way of looking at things the insults start. Silly fucker really, spoilt it for himself. I understand he had it in for a lot of people on here but I found him easy to ignore because he was quite plainly fuckin mental...if I saw a bloke stood at the side of the road ranting at the traffic I wouldnt engage him in conversation, same went for him.

She does, very normal lass, as a lot of these folks seem to be. Maybe Cleetus toon fan should save his barbs for the truly deserving, same for Boyle.

Whatever it is you're on about, I missed it. But as is often the case (especially on here), a sports person is being judged on how they come across in the media and not how they perfomed. Why the fuck youd want to bring that up when I was on about how shed done brilliantly in beating her time from Beijing beats me but there you go.