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Well, a hugely powerful body like the Catholic Church had kept child abusing priests out of the courts for decades up until recently. Was thinking about the Marc Dutroux case when I was in Belgium this week as well, although it was police incompetance and crimianlly poor systems of doing police work that were the root cause in the latter, but that also had an element of officialdom turning a blind eye.Its well documented that things like this at least throw a suspicious light on to what may have gone on in the care system from the end of the war up until the early 90s, but as Parky says theres a couple of bits in the media this week concerning all this that really haven't been seen before. Strange times to say the least.

Bit harsh on Wolfy Don't know what to think....I've heard from some of the older folk at work, who to be fair to them wouldn't know twitter from bitter, but who have been politically active their whole lives that Lord McAlpine was widely rumored to have been interfearing with boys as far back as they can remember. He's plainly not guilty of whatever horrors went on in North Wales, so is this carry on all a bit of a red herring?...were the third party that did all the legwork for the Newsnight article being paid by some else other than the BBC? Doesnt explain how the Newsnight editor let the story through, but after failing to expose Saville were they keen to be seen in a better light by the public in general? Did a hidden hand see this and choose their moment impeccably?...the bloke making the claims has been hawking this story around for years apparently, no one would touch it because it couldnt be proved, then sudddenly its on Newsnight?... How am I doing Parky?

So you're of the opinion that the various claims on the internet have some basis, and theres a bit of a operation going on by "the establishment" to muddy the waters and and in so doing protect those who have been abusing kids for decades?...

Was that you?! Billy Ray Cyrus wasnt cool 20 years ago and he still isnt

thats made me laugh out load...think the kid next to me in the office thinks am a bit simple...

Aye, when we played Waregem we'd been drinking draught Leffe for 7 hours before the 2045 CET kick off...found ourselves stuffing confectionary from the shelves of a garage into our coats not long before kick off... I think we'd "forgotten" to eat Wouldnt say I wanted to wank into a sock, but I am looking forward to it hugely...getting the lunchtime Eurostar tomorrow and some other poor sod has the pleasure of driving me!

Theyre a big draw for me, it has to be said.... I do find it funny too though, Leonards mum got pissed with Tits McGee (above) and snogged Shledon in one we watched last night

I think all atheletes in single-competitive sports need to be self obsessed just to get to the top...the very best hide it well from the general public so they keep the sponsorship deals rolling in, doesn't look like Vicky managed it very well though. She needs to step out of the media spotlight for a bit, but going straight from an Olympic podium on to a live BBC tv dancing contest in front of millions suggests she likes the attention a bit too much...not a good combination for the old mental health I'd imagine.

Cheer up MT! .....maybe we'll get a part-time window cleaner from Kilmarnock or something More than likely...not many clubs can dig their heels in like that...and he did have champions league football at Lille.

Quoted in French newspaper L'Equipe on Tuesday, Lille right back Mathieu Debuchy has been talking about his abortive move to Tyneside in the summer - and how he doesn't anticipate a mid-season switch: "I fought to go to Newcastle, but the President (of Lille, Michel Seydou) didn't want it. I didn't want to end up in conflict..." "Yes I was disappointed - I hope that there will be other opportunities. Asked if the deal could be revived in the January transfer window, Debuchy (who is under contract until 2015) said: "The moment has gone, I'm now 200% committed to Lille. I don't want to leave for the sake of it, I really wanted to go to Newcastle - next year it isn't certain that I'll go

Honestly, with a bit of pace and athletic abiltity you can become a multi millionaire in football by just doing that, its what coaches and managers love. I remember an article about Stephen Clemence who played in the top divison for Spurs and Brum for a decade, and his only attribute as a footballer was his ability to retain posession. Its the holy grail of football. And thats why Jonas is the first name on the sheet every week. A mate of mine played in goal for Poole Town u18s in the early 90s with Jody Craddock. There were two other players in that side who played league football, Simon Cooper for Cheltnham and Christer Warren for Bournemouth. Neither of them were particularly gifted, and pace let them down at the top level, but the key to both their little claims to fame was a true desire to be a professsional and,again, they sat in the middle of the park playing it simple. Its fair to say their careers were well and truly on the slide when they came across me breathing beer fumes all over them on a Sunday morning

Or people were less likely to feel sorry for themselves, which leads to the modern type of "depression", if am reading J69 correctly. I do think thats the case, we had fuck all when I was a kid but were nowhere near "poor", am sure most folks on here were the same. I do come across some right self pitying so and so's nowdays, for who if everythings not fabulous dahling its a pretty big problem. The last 3 girls I've been involved with were on medication when I met them....I'll let others put add their own punchline to that

No need to get party political about all this....it may be the Tories doing most of the alleged abusing but Edward Heath had been an MP since the 1950s...if the likes of him had been getting away with abusing kids for 60 years or so then the Labour governments of the 60s and 70s were complicit in any cover there may have been.

Why? they get away with the type of physical assaults in rugby every week which, if you did it to someone in the street, you'd be jailed. You appear to think football is, or possibly should be, different?

Very kind of you to say. As I said his folks have clammed up over it, never mention him so the rest of us have stopped asking. I last saw him on Boxing Day 2010, and he looked older than me,about 10 years his senior. He was able to communicate quite well, and gave me a big hug when he came into the house which nearly finished me. I think his mother wanted him to go into hospital at the time, and it looks like she got her way, but thats pretty much all we know.

My cousin had a "psychotic episode" smoking dope and is now hospitalised. His parents won't talk to the rest of the family about it too much, theyre heartbroken; he was playing for Scotalnd u21s at rugby at the time, its really sad. Do you know what sort of treatment he may be getting? its been going on years now, we dont really know whats happening.

Its pretty worrying no its not...relegation is pretty worriying I realise expecatations have been raised after last season but we should just chill the fuck out wand wait and see what happens.

I dont feel one way or the other about LFC, but we've got 4 points out of the last two league games and we've been shite really. They ddint bother us too much yesterday but they played well last week v Everton and deserved more. Another couple of strikers are what they need, not sure about Huntelaar, didnt realise he's 30 next birhtday. But it is amusing to look at their answers when it was suggested that Pardew wouldve been a good appointment. For my money he's light years in fron of Rogers because he's a horses-for-courses pragmatist.Thats why Demba starts every game, becauase he's a beast and a top class finisher. Rogers got rid of Andy Carroll for the same reasons. A "playing philosophy" hasnt won a fuckin thing for decades and never will.

No, same reasons as goaline technology...it would be being brought in to satisfy TV fans' voyeurism. Theres a rulebook that covers all this. If the players cant behave, enforce the present rules to their full extent. Sending off those using foul language on the pitch as the rules allow would solve it. I blame Graham Poll wanting to be John Terry's mate, shows you what a good judge of charcter some refs are. Better to be characterless and a cunt on the pitch than the present situation where that fucker yesterday was sweet talked into not at least booking Sterling by Gerrard, then sending Colo off for not making contact (although I do agree it was a red for intent alone, but you can see the inconsistancy due to the influence of a player with 80 odd England caps).

CT you're confusing a purple patch from Cisse (one of the best scoring runs in the top divison for 30 years, it was freakinsh, literally everythinghe hit went in whether it was a glaring chance or he conjured something unbeleiveable out of nothing) last spring with the whole of last season. Forget it mate, it wasnt all like that. Brighton,Fulham,Spur...regardless of personnel available they were all fuckin abysmal. A lot of ohers were merely "iffy"...v Bolton with 4th still a real possibility we were fuckin shocking too. Bordeaux?...look at squidwards last run out in the premier league and then look at the room he gets in Europe. Ben Arfa gets no room in league games but he's our best player because once or twice a game he'll dance past a defender or two and either create or score a goal himself. We're a slightly above average side. And we were last season too. If Ashley opens his wallet and brings in the players we need in January we'll have a good season iyam.

aye, he spent the whole two hour show after he found out (via the media apparently? Evening Standard perhaps?) annhilalting the BBC.."is this how you treat cancer survivors??!!...get rid of whole floors of middle management and you'd save more money" etc etc

No graph/pie chart/venn diagram?

Spoony..where do you start with that fuckin strap-on? How about being a plastic scouser in your 40s still wishing to be known as "Spoony"?.....living down south you come across these types cluttering up bar rooms whenever "their" team is on spouting utter bollocks,but this cunts made a career out of it! Sorry Meenzer but I find this sort of toss piece a lot more offensive than Littlejohn.

606 is dreadful and has been for a decade or more. When Green does it if your point isnt about manu,chelsea,arsenal or his bloved lfc then he's on rocky ground, and if its about a team outside the prem he's completly fuckin stumped. Jason Roberts mouths cliches by the dozen and Robbie Savage shoves his ego down you lug holes to the the extent that he's fuckin unlistenable. The last half decent presenter was Richard Littlejohn, who, regardless of his profession,employer and polictical views came across as a fairly ordinary fan of the game with a very good all round knowledge of all divisons.

Thing is, the ST & members only thing deters anyone who just fancies going. If he's worried about what fans get up to, make sure theyve provided ID before theyre issued with a ticket. 25 quid a year membership for what amounts to just that is a pisstake.