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Sarah Smith always sounds like shes got a gob full of jizz...its very alluring......

Keep an eye out for my sister at the Scottish Borders count, £85 and Friday off

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Off last night the International Break the fans cheering us on too loudly the roadworks on the A1 the colour of the referee's shirt the unrest in Syria Miley Cyrus riding a wrecking-ball Restaurant Week last week the Scottish Referendum the same ineffective corner to Williamson at the back every time the return of The X Factor the Notting Hill Carnival the Sports Direct Closing Down Sale the rising price of petrol the release of the iPhone 6 Justin Bieber's hair do our exuberance at the end the Financial Fair Play rules what the player's agents have been saying the African Cup Of Nations the Olympics the Europa League Kirsty Gallagher's low cut dress that article in the newspaper last week the grass that was too green that distracted us from winning the ball at corners meant we lost our shape meant we couldnt do what we practiced in training all week meant we couldn't get one over the line caused the players to lose their concentration caused a hostile environment started the game off 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level above us caused Cisse to stray offside distracted us from winning the ball at corners distracted us from winning the ball at corners meant we lost our shape meant we couldnt do what we practiced in training all week meant we couldn't get one over the line caused the players to lose their concentration caused a hostile environment started the game off on the wrong foot meant we couldn't play our strongest team had the groundsmen working late last night meant we had a few injuries meant there was a lack of electricity about the game meant we had a day's less rest means our squad isn't big enough caused a language barrier between the players meant they had an energy level above us caused Cisse to stray offside distracted us from winning the ball at corners so we couldnt get up field quick enough we'll have to make do with listening to Adrian Chiles we lost there's not much I can do about that it's out of my hands it's up to the players now we lost our momentum we couldnt make any of the signings we wanted to

How about "I'm not a selfish bastard and dont wish to set my fellow UK citizens adrift due to a freak of geographical/political good fortune"?

Am not having an argument, am trying to get the jist of some sort of inferred difference. People willing and motivated to commit shocking acts like this live among us now, its not a new thing, regardless of inspiration or method.

You both seem to be suggesting that something like this hasn't happened in the UK yet?

Am I missing something here, or am I just being a pedant? Its already happened here Ken, as was pointed out to your opposite bookend of fuckwittery this morning.

Someone at work has just told me that its been reported on radio 2 that an exit poll somewhere or other has come out at 65% in favour of indeoendance

I agree, and I think the yes campaign has huge merit in lots of ways. The corporates will snuff out a young democracy in this case though. I've got an English brother and sister and a 78 year old English mother all getting a vote (brother is the only yesser, fuckin Stalinist ) to go with the house I own in the village where I was brought up so there's a bit riding on it for me. As I've said, don't let Salmon tear up the union jack, give him the rest though and hope it leads to a sort of "united states of the UK" where all major decisions are mostly made locally and most taxes are collected locally. The US does this, can't see why we can't have full regionalisation in the future. The cats out the bag now like, well done salmon for that.

ultimate fence sitter tbh, fuckin useless in most arguments, can see everyones view

Ahh right, cheers Andrew, apologies to both.

Democracy isn't perfect by a huge margin, but if you consider yourself civilised its the only game in town. If you don't want to play the door is at Dover. There's plenty coming in who will replace you

Who's the kid from Pakistan then? No matter... In the last 25 years former totalitarian regimes and brutally sectarian countries all over the planet have granted the right to vote to all citizens. In the 19th century the US gave former slaves a vote too, yet some on here are suggesting that some folk north of the border aren't clever enough to vote the way you think they should?

Do you get a vote where you're from Rayvin?

What's the actual difference between 16 and 18? How much more are you likely to have gained in intelligence in two late teenage years? The issue has only come about because its seen as Salmon seeking to gain an advantage, which is of course correct. Fwiw, my sisters eldest was 18 a month ago and is voting no.

yeah and its the likes of fuckin geniuses like you two who fully deserve a vote like

Ok CT I'll make this simple for you, I think what you're alluding to has already happened in this country. A random attack on a citizen in the street by Islamic terrorists intent on beheading the poor victim. That's all I'm trying to say. Sorry for being so obtuse this morning. Am also sorry you're so fuckin thick.

Lee Rigby was in civvies and was only wandering near to his barracks. IS don't have a monopoly on Islamic terrorism, see also 9/11 & 7/7 for instance.

So the murder of Lee Rigby escaped the notice of the South Tyneside oracle?.....no shit?....

Sorry to hear your news Stevie.

If a scots nats politician from the 50s 60s or 70s had gone up to a steel worker from Ravenscraig and said "vote for me" he'd have got the answer "why? I work for BRITISH Steel" That's all gone now, so is his union to all intents and purposes, his social club, and now his political party (Labour) is pretty much an irrelevance in Scotland too. The Scots nats now ask "what keeps you British?" not much as far as I can make out.

The best way I could put it is if a Scots nats politician in the 50s,60s or 70s had gone up to a Ravenscraig steel worker and said "vote for me" he'd likely get the retort "why? I work for BRITISH Steel'. All that's gone, and most under 40 barely if at all remember it.

Well you seem to be agreeing but saying you disagree... I agree with what you're saying as well, my point is that the institutions, workplaces and social groupings of the working class from the post war period had all gone from all of the UK by as you say by the mid nineties, and coupled with Scotland being the guinea pig for the poll tax a few years earlier there was a gradual realisation that Scotland (and the north) was only useful to the powers that be when we were producing the coal and ships that fired the empire. Once the British Empire had declined, they had no use for the north, so the sense of togetherness died iyam. This is what the Scots nats have exploited.