PaddockLad

Runners and riders.... https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-conservative-leader I’m going to indulge I think...

I met Roger a couple of years back. Brolga who runs the sanctuary is just about the best human being I’ve ever met. For all Roger lovers his son Monty is his spitting image and is now the alpha male of the group. He, like his dad, also has gigantic bollocks. Unfortunately, I can’t find a picture of him/them. Whilst we were there Brolga said to us “ you guys from the UK?...do you know Chris Evans from the BBC? I”m just about to speak to him live in his radio show” I passed on my commiserations to him, he looked a bit non plussed when the (then &) current Mrs PL jabbed me in the ribs and hissed at me to shut the fuck up. Then after walking through the sunset surrounded by dozens of awakening kangaroos we headed back to the shed wear they keep the feed for the young orphans. We were then told to wait whilst Brolga and his staff checked for & chased out a couple of gigantic western brown snakes, apparently the most venomous reptiles on earth 🐍

Haw-her-haw....mon dileu, Zut alors, sacre bleu etc etc...

As soon as they got possession in their box he just broke out into a light jog. There no no guarantee the wolves lad was getting a shot away for Yedlns red iyam. Lascelles & Dubravka converging on him.

Waddle?

Atsu is scaring the shit out of them

Never a red

Whoop!

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Robert Peston this morning.. You may have thought the vote in Parliament on Tuesday night was an important moment and deadline for how and whether the UK leaves the European Union. I did. But I was wrong. Because tomorrow the prime minister may decide to pull the vote (which she can do pretty easily, I am told by a minister, because of the way the motion for the vote is worded). She will do that, her colleagues inform me, if she is facing defeat by the kind of colossal margin that would completely undermine confidence in her ability to govern - so more than 100 votes. And right now, the margin of her personal humiliation looks considerably greater than that. So what would it mean to pull the vote? Well there is zero chance of her securing the kind of concessions from EU leaders this week at the regular EU council meeting that could turn that scale of Commons defeat into victory. Sources in European capitals say the most EU government heads could offer would be some non-binding warm words about how they, like the prime minister, hope that the so-called backstop - so hated by Northern Ireland's DUP and Tory Brexiters - will never be implemented or will be of short duration. Such friendly and supportive words will not turn the DUP and Tory Brexiters from enemies of the Brexit plan to its supporters. All they care about is the legal text of the Withdrawal Agreement. And absent that being opened up and changed - which it won't be this week - they will continue to stand in implacable oppositions to her Brexit plan. So what can and will she do? Well - and please move away from the ledge (NOW!) - she could try to re-open negotiations with the EU in a more fundamental way over Christmas and in January. Because the hard deadline for her is in fact 21 January - which is when (under yet another successful Dominic Grieve initiative, enshrined in the EU Withdrawal Act), if there is no agreed deal, she is obliged to present a plan to parliament about what on earth she does next. Now it is possible that her own Tory Brexiter MPs will not tolerate her shelving the vote. They want her plan dead and dead now. So they may - finally - see any further prevarication as all the cause they need to try and oust her. That is the big risk for her, personally. If she is to keep them on side, she may have to claim that she has been converted to their cause (yes I know that seems implausible). One idea - put to me by a Whitehall rather than political source - is that she could tell the EU that unless the EU abandons the backstop, the UK would simply leave the EU on 29 March without a transition and via what is known as a hard Brexit, BUT that the UK would refrain from imposing any checks at its borders, either in the island of Ireland or at any of Great Britain's ports. This would call the EU's bluff: it would mean that if Brexit were to be chaotic and economically disastrous, and if the border in Ireland were to harden in a way that promoted crime and terrorism, that would be at the EU's discretion, not the UK's (it's not a million miles from the tough negotiating stance currently being used by the Swiss, in their attempt to ward off the EU trying to give a greater role to the European Court of Justice in adjudicating single-market disputes - but the Swiss have less to lose than the UK). This would he the ultimate in hardball negotiating, by May (so yes, implausible again). It would keep onside most of the Tory Brexiters. But it would probably alienate a majority in parliament, because of the risk that it could all go horribly, appallingly wrong (it could lead to a disastrous Brexit, and could also damage diplomatic relations between the UK and EU for years to come). The point, which you surely know by now, is that there is no Brexit available that doesn't alienate at least one constituency deemed important by the prime minister. She attempted a Brexit whose explicit aim was to reconcile irreconcilable groups (Brexiters and DUP on the one hand, Remainers on the other; the EU 27 and Brexit voters). That failed. Her negotiated plan is in the dustbin of history. To Brexit is to choose. May can duck her choice no longer (or at least not for very much longer!).

Does what happens next week depend on the severity of the defeat for Mays deal on a Tuesday?... Less than 30 and apparently there may be a bit if wriggle room to go back to Brussels to try to renegotiate the backstop. If it’s calamitous she’s gone and then it will depend on who comes in. I think at this point, if UK democracy is to have any credibility in the future,it has to be someone very keen indeed on leaving. That may indeed mean, for the sake of the Torys keeping power at all costs and despite his unpopularity at Westminster, that utter cunt Johnson. If they fudge it though with a compromise like Javid then there will be a second referendum.At which point democracy becomes very poorly indeed, despite our belief that Brexit is fuckin madness. That’s not taking into account what MPs will do on the back of Dominic Greive’s amendment. I do think it’s best if we avoid another referendum. But now the ERG goons are back under their stones Gina Millers PV fusiliers can see their chance and like the ERG they won’t give up without a fight...

W/C 7th Jan

In Mordor 👊

We've got the mackems in the checkatrade

square heeded man faced fuck

Most of the time when I can be bothered to engage with CT his response to whatever I’ve said is “ wrong....again “ Interesting to note that this thread was started just before a Suarez-less Liverpool came to SJP and twatted us 0-6. The season ended a few weeks after that with us having to go to an already relegated QPR and win to stay up, I was there and watched us concede first to a penalty scored by Loic Remy, who signed for those low rent cockney twats rather than take what was on offer at SJP before we rallied to scrape a 1-2 win. Thats how wrong he was within 6 weeks of starting this thread. Strangely he never posts in the football section now...wonder why?...

rip Pete

Kenyon wants the club but has no backers Staveley made a bid seen by George Caulkin via Chris Mort at Freshfields Ashley says a deal to sell the club is closer now than ever I'll let you all draw your own conclusions....

I've just downloaded the Queen movie, Bohemien Rhapsody.. I think it was filmed in a cinema though,as I see a little silhouetto of a man...

71%-29% posessiion....again...

I'll take that as a no then shall I CT? As far as I remember Labour chose not to join the eurozone and failed to give a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. I think that goes down as protecting the country from the likes of the utterly moronic shit show we've endured for the last 2.5 years. We're a representative democracy rather than one based on plebiscites. Cameron , with his 3 referendums, rather lost site of this. To say the fuckin least.

http://labourmanifesto.com/2001/2001-labour-manifesto.shtml @Christmas Tree can you point out where taking the Euro as currency is mentioned in Labours 2001 manifesto? Take your time mate, no dramas...

CTs confused mate. He doesn’t know who or what to back at the moment that will make him look as contrary as possible on the internet. Bless.

It wasn’t publically discussed anywhere, in the media or by the general public. It needed a Tory government returning in 2010 for the bile to start spilling again, this shit has now been going on for nearly half a century. It’s a row in the Tory party that they thought it was a god idea to put to the country. With any luck it’ll fuckin destroy them.