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Damon Albarn and friends - Stylo. Soothing, need to download their new album.

Ouch

Definetly, a special rolie should do the job.

Carrick was that pedestrian I didn't even realise he was playing until someone mentioned it on here. King was nervy at first, but settled down and put a decent performance in and Milner was poor.

Easy, £75 return from a £20 stake.

I've never posted on that site, I'm just here to discuss a show that I thoroughly enjoyed watching with other members. Your whole 'I couldn't give a fuck/Radgie/Sex-pest' persona is frankly boring, and tedious. Awaits the horde. Judging by your response to my post, which clearly rattled you, and this fucking tripe you're pedalling 'You've got to be loyal to Lost to be satisfied' I reckon you more than enjoyed it. P.S I am a radgie/sex pest, it's not just my persona on here. Just making perceptions, like you have and we were evidently both wrong. You can empahsise one quote all you like but I've perceived the show different to most people on this board, its not dribble its just people being pedantic on certain issues, if they're all that intrigued in wanting certain answers they should read up on them, because they're answers that I've missed when watching, and in particular Lostpedia explains them and how they were implemented. Apologies about the angst aswell, trying to post on here and watch the ever so dependable England clinch onto your bet win is hardly comforting.

I've never posted on that site, I'm just here to discuss a show that I thoroughly enjoyed watching with other members. Your whole 'I couldn't give a fuck/Radgie/Sex-pest' persona is frankly boring, and tedious. Awaits the horde.

Can't see how this applys to Lost in paticular, conisdering it's reocurring, and I've never seen a spin-off. I agree about Life on Mars, I thought it was a brilliant series, and never took to it's spin-off Ashes to Ashes. What are your issues with this non-existent plot, and when did you throw in the towel regarding Lost? I stopped aound the series 2/3 border I think, when it became apparent to me there was not going to be a coherent explanation regarding the strange goings on on the island. Also I think there was dispute between Virgin and Sky 1 at the time which didn't help. I just like things to make sense, if you're not too bothered about strong plot lines, fair enough. I can't be arsed about most American dramas after series 1 nowadays if I'm honest. Take True Blood. Promising first series, turned to shit in the second, imo, obviously. You've got to be loyal to Lost to be satisfied, seriously it almost angers me when I hear some idiotic viewers whinging about being confused over a show that is much more intelligent than they're and regard that as a reason to fuck it over because the answers aren't being handed on a plate for them. Which frankly would make it boring, but the ending suprised me in a way considering I was expecting something alot less simple, but that's me being too profound and speculating, which I personally enjoyed doing. Fortunately that isn't the case with you Renton. It's a shame you finished it at Season 3, which I regarded as the best season of the show, as it focuses more on the background of 'The Others' and a slight insight of The Dharma Inititave and its origins. Season 6 pretty much delivered 'most' of the answers, especially the strange going ons, although I have to admit the pace was alot faster than previous seasons, and I saw this more a negative than a positive. On American series in general, I also agree, this applied to me when I gave up watching Fringe after the first season simply because it had little direction and became tedious to watch. EDIT: To conclude, I hope you give it another chance and if you do, and your opinion doesn't change then fair enough. Fanboy. "You've got to be loyal to Lost.........the show is much more intelligent than you." Get a grip man. It was a half decent show that COMPLETELY lost its way several seasons ago, and relied on witless mongs buying into the "mythology" to actually have anyone still watching it come the final episode. The writers fucked it right up, and were just making it up as they went along. I was "loyal" until the fucking Spanish period drama episode with Richard Alpert flying round Tenerife on a fucking horse. Load of shit, and I stopped watching it then, and haven't missed the weekly serving of horseplop since. But then you'd be complaining about why he doesn't age? Etc... That episode specifically answered those questions, which alot of people were curious about, it can't work both ways. If you think that's significantly unbelieveable then why didn't you fuck it off when a wheel could move an island or the time-travel was implemented?

Can't see how this applys to Lost in paticular, conisdering it's reocurring, and I've never seen a spin-off. I agree about Life on Mars, I thought it was a brilliant series, and never took to it's spin-off Ashes to Ashes. What are your issues with this non-existent plot, and when did you throw in the towel regarding Lost? I stopped aound the series 2/3 border I think, when it became apparent to me there was not going to be a coherent explanation regarding the strange goings on on the island. Also I think there was dispute between Virgin and Sky 1 at the time which didn't help. I just like things to make sense, if you're not too bothered about strong plot lines, fair enough. I can't be arsed about most American dramas after series 1 nowadays if I'm honest. Take True Blood. Promising first series, turned to shit in the second, imo, obviously. You've got to be loyal to Lost to be satisfied, seriously it almost angers me when I hear some idiotic viewers whinging about being confused over a show that is much more intelligent than they're and regard that as a reason to fuck it over because the answers aren't being handed on a plate for them. Which frankly would make it boring, but the ending suprised me in a way considering I was expecting something alot less simple, but that's me being too profound and speculating, which I personally enjoyed doing. Fortunately that isn't the case with you Renton. It's a shame you finished it at Season 3, which I regarded as the best season of the show, as it focuses more on the background of 'The Others' and a slight insight of The Dharma Inititave and its origins. Season 6 pretty much delivered 'most' of the answers, especially the strange going ons, although I have to admit the pace was alot faster than previous seasons, and I saw this more a negative than a positive. On American series in general, I also agree, this applied to me when I gave up watching Fringe after the first season simply because it had little direction and became tedious to watch. EDIT: To conclude, I hope you give it another chance and if you do, and your opinion doesn't change then fair enough. So by not being able to tie up the loose ends one has unraveled over the past 5 seasons with competent writing and continuity, I'm a dummy because I didn't like the ending? That's a new one on me... I wasn't one of those people who needed every single answer, but the answers I did want I at least wanted to make sense. And it would have been nice to work in the answers instead of having a character just do an exposition piece. Oh and Rents, take it for what it's worth, but while the writers do cover Dharma and The Others, they're almost nearly 100% inconsequential to anything outside the season they're portrayed in. SPOILER- I mean really? The church was some place they invented to go when they all died? WTF? At what other time in the show did you get the impression from like any character that shit could happen? Also, what was the point of any of the alternate reality crap from this season? From where I was sitting, the alternate reality they've been dicking around in all season isn't at all related to the church at the end, so what was the point of any of that? Fun way to eat up a season of network TV money? They really wanted to put Sawyer behind a cop's desk? I don't know... I hated the Sopranos ending too. It didn't fit the theme of the show at all. I think anybody honest with them self had to hate that ending as well because it was such a cop-out- just like LOST's ending was tonight. People tried to say the Soprano's ending was this nearly artistic level device, but that show had never used any kind of artistic devices before; it wasn't like David Lynch turned up to direct the last episdoe, FFS. The writers didn't know how to end it, so they faded to black hoping the fanboys would talk themselves into it being some brilliant move. It worked that time (for the most part), and it'll probably work this time for LOST. Right with you there !!! And yes there were times during the whole shebang I thought I've had enough of this shit but persevered ...thinking somewhere along the line I will get "some" answers , maybe not all but enough for me to fill in the blanks . Unfortunately this ending left way too many blanks for me and not because I am a halfwit either before the dicks all weigh in !! The church scenario became the Dallas Bobby Ewing shower scene for me ......... oh and by the way just a few unanswered , explain the numbers, the significance of the flash-sideways, Walt and Michael's rolls in the story as Walt was originally the special child that everyone wanted, , the origin of "the light", where Richard was in the last scene, what the smoke monster was, why the sonic fences were effective... and many other questions, please send them all in a 100 page dossier to me. Cheers. oh and by the way just a few unanswered, explain where Vincent shits, where he pisses, and what he rubs his shitty arse against, because there's no carpet. The numbers were referenced to certain characters, and related to there lives. Meaning and influence remains unresolved. The Flash-sideways:The flash-sideways timeline was a purgatorial version of events that appeared to be a version of the 2004 timeline in which the Island is submerged in the ocean and Oceanic Flight 815 never crashed there. It was conjectured that this timeline exists as a direct result of the reset, as hypothesized by Daniel Faraday. This version of events did not interfere with the original timeline (though the original timeline interfered with it) and differed in many ways differences. The flash-sideways timeline and the original timeline shared many, but not all events in common. Eventually, it is revealed that after Jack, Locke, Kate, Sawyer, Juliet, Hurley, Ben, Claire, Charlie, Boone, Shannon, Sun, Jin, Sayid, Desmond, Rose, Bernard and Penny die, they come together to create a world where they can reunite, as their meetings after the crash of Flight 815 were the most important of their lives, and the lessons they learnt there impacted their experiences in the Flash-Sideways, such as Jack having a son, and James Ford being a detective. Once they reunite, they, as Christian Shephard describes it, "move on". Couldn't of put it better myself (Lostpedia), in what Mighty Hog also referenced. Walt and Micheal's roles and his special powers: I don't know this, I'm led to believe that they couldn't portray Walt as an ongoing character because he'd significantly age, thats just based on the principle which TMG also stated about Hurley and his inability to lose weight in 101 days, which is similair to Walt and the ageing issue. On his special powers and such, I'm not sure that does stay unresolved. Actually I cba, whatever questions you have go on Lostpedia, and they should answer them or not.

Can't see how this applys to Lost in paticular, conisdering it's reocurring, and I've never seen a spin-off. I agree about Life on Mars, I thought it was a brilliant series, and never took to it's spin-off Ashes to Ashes. What are your issues with this non-existent plot, and when did you throw in the towel regarding Lost? I stopped aound the series 2/3 border I think, when it became apparent to me there was not going to be a coherent explanation regarding the strange goings on on the island. Also I think there was dispute between Virgin and Sky 1 at the time which didn't help. I just like things to make sense, if you're not too bothered about strong plot lines, fair enough. I can't be arsed about most American dramas after series 1 nowadays if I'm honest. Take True Blood. Promising first series, turned to shit in the second, imo, obviously. You've got to be loyal to Lost to be satisfied, seriously it almost angers me when I hear some idiotic viewers whinging about being confused over a show that is much more intelligent than they're and regard that as a reason to fuck it over because the answers aren't being handed on a plate for them. Which frankly would make it boring, but the ending suprised me in a way considering I was expecting something alot less simple, but that's me being too profound and speculating, which I personally enjoyed doing. Fortunately that isn't the case with you Renton. It's a shame you finished it at Season 3, which I regarded as the best season of the show, as it focuses more on the background of 'The Others' and a slight insight of The Dharma Inititave and its origins. Season 6 pretty much delivered 'most' of the answers, especially the strange going ons, although I have to admit the pace was alot faster than previous seasons, and I saw this more a negative than a positive. On American series in general, I also agree, this applied to me when I gave up watching Fringe after the first season simply because it had little direction and became tedious to watch. EDIT: To conclude, I hope you give it another chance and if you do, and your opinion doesn't change then fair enough. So by not being able to tie up the loose ends one has unraveled over the past 5 seasons with competent writing and continuity, I'm a dummy because I didn't like the ending? That's a new one on me... My post doesn't say you're a dummy if you don't like the ending, it was obvious that whatever they concluded the series with some people would still hate it, and criticise it to pieces. Specifiy which loose ends, so I can actually comment. I'm basically calling certain fans who can't comprehend that this is how the shows wants you to react, it wants you questioning its every scene, and then it ends with something so simple and obvious, you then begin to question the writers motives. Some people take it as it is, I like to question it, create complex theories, but like I said I overthink when watching Lost. I wasn't one of those people who needed every single answer, but the answers I did want I at least wanted to make sense. And it would have been nice to work in the answers instead of having a character just do an exposition piece. I agree with the exposition point, and that being the case with Jacob and Christian Shepard at the end. Oh and Rents, take it for what it's worth, but while the writers do cover Dharma and The Others, they're almost nearly 100% inconsequential to anything outside the season they're portrayed in. SPOILER- I mean really? The church was some place they invented to go when they all died? WTF? At what other time in the show did you get the impression from like any character that shit could happen? As a Lost fan, its a well-known theory that they've been dead all along, and in this case in purgatory. HF posted what I'm about to say(http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/lost/index.html?story=/ent/tv/heather_havrilesky/2010/05/24/lost_finale_unintended_moral), its all based on fate. Remember Jack (bald) (Man of Science) he was originally obsessed with leaving the island as opposed to Locke (Man of Faith) who adamantly wanted/needed them to stay, this reversed in the final season, where as Jack has no interest in leaving, Locke/MiB was not going to let anyone stop him from leaving. Also, what was the point of any of the alternate reality crap from this season? From where I was sitting, the alternate reality they've been dicking around in all season isn't at all related to the church at the end, so what was the point of any of that? Fun way to eat up a season of network TV money? They really wanted to put Sawyer behind a cop's desk? I don't know... I hated the Sopranos ending too. It didn't fit the theme of the show at all. I think anybody honest with them self had to hate that ending as well because it was such a cop-out- just like LOST's ending was tonight. People tried to say the Soprano's ending was this nearly artistic level device, but that show had never used any kind of artistic devices before; it wasn't like David Lynch turned up to direct the last episdoe, FFS. The writers didn't know how to end it, so they faded to black hoping the fanboys would talk themselves into it being some brilliant move. It worked that time (for the most part), and it'll probably work this time for LOST. ------ (Never said it was a brilliant ending, but satisfying, like I said I was suprised at how simple it ended, I was expecting something bizzare and an out of the blue moment that would keep me speculating for years. The church place was the venue in which C.Shepard was to be buried, seemed random at the time I have to admit.

Can't see how this applys to Lost in paticular, conisdering it's reocurring, and I've never seen a spin-off. I agree about Life on Mars, I thought it was a brilliant series, and never took to it's spin-off Ashes to Ashes. What are your issues with this non-existent plot, and when did you throw in the towel regarding Lost? I stopped aound the series 2/3 border I think, when it became apparent to me there was not going to be a coherent explanation regarding the strange goings on on the island. Also I think there was dispute between Virgin and Sky 1 at the time which didn't help. I just like things to make sense, if you're not too bothered about strong plot lines, fair enough. I can't be arsed about most American dramas after series 1 nowadays if I'm honest. Take True Blood. Promising first series, turned to shit in the second, imo, obviously. You've got to be loyal to Lost to be satisfied, seriously it almost angers me when I hear some idiotic viewers whinging about being confused over a show that is much more intelligent than they're and regard that as a reason to fuck it over because the answers aren't being handed on a plate for them. Which frankly would make it boring, but the ending suprised me in a way considering I was expecting something alot less simple, but that's me being too profound and speculating, which I personally enjoyed doing. Fortunately that isn't the case with you Renton. It's a shame you finished it at Season 3, which I regarded as the best season of the show, as it focuses more on the background of 'The Others' and a slight insight of The Dharma Inititave and its origins. Season 6 pretty much delivered 'most' of the answers, especially the strange going ons, although I have to admit the pace was alot faster than previous seasons, and I saw this more a negative than a positive. On American series in general, I also agree, this applied to me when I gave up watching Fringe after the first season simply because it had little direction and became tedious to watch. EDIT: To conclude, I hope you give it another chance and if you do, and your opinion doesn't change then fair enough.

Can't see how this applys to Lost in paticular, conisdering it's reocurring, and I've never seen a spin-off. I agree about Life on Mars, I thought it was a brilliant series, and never took to it's spin-off Ashes to Ashes. What are your issues with this non-existent plot, and when did you throw in the towel regarding Lost?

For example... If England were winning 1-0 at half-time and the game finished 1-0 that would be HT/FT. 1st half/2nd half means they would win each half, i.e., 1-0 first half, then 1-0 second half so the full time score would be 2-0. (I think) Thats what I was thinking, cheers Besty, not sure which one to go for, probably First half/second.

You can Fish, highly reccomend it aswell. Meaning the app, and not gambling itself, .

Does anybody know the difference between a HT/FT bet to a 1st half/2nd half bet? Example: England are 6/5 for HT/FT compared to 11/4 for 1st half/2nd half bet, so I'm confused and need some clarification. TIA.

Lost isn't for people who need answers to every question that they face in life, on a daily basis. I'm afraid Renton, that sounds just like you.

This is the case, I enjoyed it still.

Unlike some.

Returns: £67.50

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Dad, went for that funny enough, 20/1. £200 return.

Went for the Inter HT/FT at 11/4, £10 stake. Diego Milito to score first at 5/1, £5 stake.

Happy Birthday!

Got to confess that I'll be one of those 'geeks' watching it at 5am.

Would you reccomend a shot at HT/FT, being both Inter at 11/4? I'm a bit undecided. Wouldn't like to say, might be worth a punt at those odds mind. What site are you using? Ladbrokes.