OTF

Imagine being thumped 6-0 by a Newcastle side featuring Alan Smith, James Perch, Mike Williamson, Wayne Routledge and Xisco. But then that Villa side did have Ciaran Clark....

Merry Christmas to you all. Santa has been here so I can finally go to bed.

The distinction was Kane was going for the ball where-as Robertson was a Shelvey'esque kicking out where he was clearly just kicking the player, really stupid stuff. Kane is a prick though, remember than Lejeune tackle? So even though I think a yellow was ok for it I would have been happier if he got a red.

After these games it's difficult to say that we shouldn't have adopted a Benitez style pragmatic approach, focusing on closing down the space to limit their ability to score. Try to hang in there to be in a position to get something from the game in the latter stages. It's turgid painful stuff to watch but with a team like ours you can see why a manager tasked with keeping the team up rather than the supporters entertained would opt for the less visually appealing.

Against Leicester we looked every bit a side that got thumped.

Weigh up how shit we currently are and the strategic manoeuvrings of the incumbent self-appointed big 6 (and the league) and it can't have been an enjoyable start to this part of the journey for her.

Agreed, even losing this 1-3 has a very different feel to 0-4.

That was the one time I think that ASM probably should have just shot rather than fed Wilson with two defenders and a third bearing down on him.

Aye, it took a tackle on ASM to get the ball back to Fraser.

Yes they have.

This is actually true, have to forget the result here and focus on the improvements in distribution and movement.

At this stage we could recall Boumsong and Cacapa for a net gain.

If we didn't have a defense that spontaneously combusts we'd be out of the relegation spots already. So realistically we need a whole new defense with the exception of Dubravka AND for them to start playing well together immediately. Tough ask.

Are you thick or willfully ignorant? I didn't say anything about Willock.

Can't they say that's not clear and obvious, no, wait, that was for them.

Thanks Lascelles!

It sounds like you're making up horse shit.

Sub Clause A; the fashionability of the team, above all aforementioned rules, dictates the decision to be given, with favour always given to those of higher perceived fashionability.

The best clapper we've had since Steven Taylor.

If he didn't start due to a knock (was mentioned pre game) then I'd not bring him on at 0-2 down, yes.

Nice save Dubravka

Guess he's been told he's not the only player on the pitch. Wilson should have just cannoned through the player shielding the ball because apparently that sort of thing is fine.

Is it decided now that Joelinton is our best central midfielder?

If he has any sort of knock from the Liverpool game I'd not have used him here given the current predicament.

Hayden and Willock will have raised the attention of the Washington Generals after their defense for the Cancelo goal. On the Ederson contact on Fraser: Shay: "Stonewall penalty" Dermott Gallager: "Everyone anticipated penalty." Owen: "I probably think it's a penalty, and I'm a stupid twat."