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Exactly, yet you spend your time apologising for him.

Where did Lovenkrands play when at Rangers? Ronaldo played on the wing at Man Utd and now plays as a forward, because a player's position is errr... where ever you play them. How's the petition? He played in the same position. What? Are you talking about the Ronaldo who got 31 and 18 goals in his final two seasons at Man U? Yeah he played just off Rooney as a forward or do you think he is a winger who got 31 goals in a season? But he played as a winger earlier in his career, by your logic, he is, therefore, a winger! There is difference between signing shit players and playing them out of position as a stop-gap and turning a 21 year old into a forward. So you can only change position if you're a good player. Alright then. Best get on to all the lower league players that have ever switched positions then. Monumental tit. By your logic, any of our defenders could have played at LB. You absolute twat.

Where did Lovenkrands play when at Rangers? Ronaldo played on the wing at Man Utd and now plays as a forward, because a player's position is errr... where ever you play them. How's the petition? He played in the same position. What? Are you talking about the Ronaldo who got 31 and 18 goals in his final two seasons at Man U? Yeah he played just off Rooney as a forward or do you think he is a winger who got 31 goals in a season? But he played as a winger earlier in his career, by your logic, he is, therefore, a winger! There is difference between signing shit players and playing them out of position as a stop-gap and turning a 21 year old into a forward.

Where did Lovenkrands play when at Rangers? Ronaldo played on the wing at Man Utd and now plays as a forward, because a player's position is errr... where ever you play them. How's the petition? He played in the same position. What? Are you talking about the Ronaldo who got 31 and 18 goals in his final two seasons at Man U? Yeah he played just off Rooney as a forward or do you think he is a winger who got 31 goals in a season?

How do you think? Are you seriously getting denser?

Where did Lovenkrands play when at Rangers? Ronaldo played on the wing at Man Utd and now plays as a forward, because a player's position is errr... where ever you play them. How's the petition? He played in the same position.

Where did Lovenkrands play when at Rangers?

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi. As opposed to our number one strikers always being injured under Shepherd when the going got tough. Who was the number one defender when Shepherd sold up? Would he get in to todays back 4? Yeah and Shola isn't. It even looks like Leon Best is crocked. At this rate, we will be lucky to have any striker. They're sitting pretty in the league in comparison to when Freddy left, aren't they, Deep? Are we? We are 7 points above Birmingham who have 2 games in hand. They play us at home in two weeks (a defeat and we are in the relegation fight). Wigan is in 17th with 26pts (i.e 5pts less than us). We are sitting very pretty indeed. Sitting very pretty. Relegation fight If we average 1 point from every 2 games remaining we stay up ffs. Our only fit striker is Ranger and a winger in Lovenkrands is being forced up top and I don't think 37 points is going to be enough to stay up. Pardew is already talking about flogging Tiote in the summer. We are very much in this relegation fight. Oh you're right. We're fucked this season if tiote goes in the summer. Nice point to slip in there. Didn't say that but we aren't sitting pretty as you like to put it. Our chief aim is to stay up ffs. Under Shepherd, was that ever the case? It's pathetic how you harp on about going forward but in reality we are debating whether to dip onto the free agent market and get Jeremy Aliadiere. Like when we went a whole summer needing a left back, didnt sign one, then after the window slammed shut signed Bernard. Did he even play a game for us? Fucking hell. Shame that is just a LB and not a whole forward line which covers about 2 positions. We've actually got forwards though, just bad ones. And we had a whole summer to get a LB, when we didn't have one We had minutes/hours to replace Carroll. A full summer. Babayaro is clearly a midfielder, you utter tool. So you are saying it wasn't clear that we didn't need another forward with/without Carroll. Where have you been for the last 4 months? Babayaro okay. Ranger/Loven/Shola/Best. One winger, one that should be in the academy and the other two are unfit. Yeah doing brilliantly.

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi. As opposed to our number one strikers always being injured under Shepherd when the going got tough. Who was the number one defender when Shepherd sold up? Would he get in to todays back 4? Yeah and Shola isn't. It even looks like Leon Best is crocked. At this rate, we will be lucky to have any striker. They're sitting pretty in the league in comparison to when Freddy left, aren't they, Deep? Are we? We are 7 points above Birmingham who have 2 games in hand. They play us at home in two weeks (a defeat and we are in the relegation fight). Wigan is in 17th with 26pts (i.e 5pts less than us). We are sitting very pretty indeed. Sitting very pretty. Relegation fight If we average 1 point from every 2 games remaining we stay up ffs. Our only fit striker is Ranger and a winger in Lovenkrands is being forced up top and I don't think 37 points is going to be enough to stay up. Pardew is already talking about flogging Tiote in the summer. We are very much in this relegation fight. Oh you're right. We're fucked this season if tiote goes in the summer. Nice point to slip in there. Didn't say that but we aren't sitting pretty as you like to put it. Our chief aim is to stay up ffs. Under Shepherd, was that ever the case? It's pathetic how you harp on about going forward but in reality we are debating whether to dip onto the free agent market and get Jeremy Aliadiere. Like when we went a whole summer needing a left back, didnt sign one, then after the window slammed shut signed Bernard. Did he even play a game for us? Fucking hell. Shame that is just a LB and not a whole forward line which covers about 2 positions. We've actually got forwards though, just bad ones. And we had a whole summer to get a LB, when we didn't have one We had minutes/hours to replace Carroll. A full summer. Babayaro is clearly a midfielder, you utter tool. So you are saying it wasn't clear that we didn't need another forward with/without Carroll. Where have you been for the last 4 months?

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi. As opposed to our number one strikers always being injured under Shepherd when the going got tough. Who was the number one defender when Shepherd sold up? Would he get in to todays back 4? Yeah and Shola isn't. It even looks like Leon Best is crocked. At this rate, we will be lucky to have any striker. They're sitting pretty in the league in comparison to when Freddy left, aren't they, Deep? Are we? We are 7 points above Birmingham who have 2 games in hand. They play us at home in two weeks (a defeat and we are in the relegation fight). Wigan is in 17th with 26pts (i.e 5pts less than us). We are sitting very pretty indeed. Sitting very pretty. Relegation fight If we average 1 point from every 2 games remaining we stay up ffs. Our only fit striker is Ranger and a winger in Lovenkrands is being forced up top and I don't think 37 points is going to be enough to stay up. Pardew is already talking about flogging Tiote in the summer. We are very much in this relegation fight. Oh you're right. We're fucked this season if tiote goes in the summer. Nice point to slip in there. Didn't say that but we aren't sitting pretty as you like to put it. Our chief aim is to stay up ffs. Under Shepherd, was that ever the case? It's pathetic how you harp on about going forward but in reality we are debating whether to dip onto the free agent market and get Jeremy Aliadiere. Like when we went a whole summer needing a left back, didnt sign one, then after the window slammed shut signed Bernard. Did he even play a game for us? Fucking hell. Shame that is just a LB and not a whole forward line which covers about 2 positions.

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi. As opposed to our number one strikers always being injured under Shepherd when the going got tough. Who was the number one defender when Shepherd sold up? Would he get in to todays back 4? Yeah and Shola isn't. It even looks like Leon Best is crocked. At this rate, we will be lucky to have any striker. They're sitting pretty in the league in comparison to when Freddy left, aren't they, Deep? Are we? We are 7 points above Birmingham who have 2 games in hand. They play us at home in two weeks (a defeat and we are in the relegation fight). Wigan is in 17th with 26pts (i.e 5pts less than us). We are sitting very pretty indeed. Sitting very pretty. Relegation fight If we average 1 point from every 2 games remaining we stay up ffs. Our only fit striker is Ranger and a winger in Lovenkrands is being forced up top and I don't think 37 points is going to be enough to stay up. Pardew is already talking about flogging Tiote in the summer. We are very much in this relegation fight. Oh you're right. We're fucked this season if tiote goes in the summer. Nice point to slip in there. Didn't say that but we aren't sitting pretty as you like to put it. Our chief aim is to stay up ffs. Under Shepherd, was that ever the case? It's pathetic how you harp on about going forward but in reality we are debating whether to dip onto the free agent market and get Jeremy Aliadiere.

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi. As opposed to our number one strikers always being injured under Shepherd when the going got tough. Who was the number one defender when Shepherd sold up? Would he get in to todays back 4? Yeah and Shola isn't. It even looks like Leon Best is crocked. At this rate, we will be lucky to have any striker. They're sitting pretty in the league in comparison to when Freddy left, aren't they, Deep? Are we? We are 7 points above Birmingham who have 2 games in hand. They play us at home in two weeks (a defeat and we are in the relegation fight). Wigan is in 17th with 26pts (i.e 5pts less than us). We are sitting very pretty indeed. Sitting very pretty. Relegation fight If we average 1 point from every 2 games remaining we stay up ffs. Our only fit striker is Ranger and a winger in Lovenkrands is being forced up top and I don't think 37 points is going to be enough to stay up. Pardew is already talking about flogging Tiote in the summer. We are very much in this relegation fight.

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi. As opposed to our number one strikers always being injured under Shepherd when the going got tough. Who was the number one defender when Shepherd sold up? Would he get in to todays back 4? Yeah and Shola isn't. It even looks like Leon Best is crocked. At this rate, we will be lucky to have any striker. They're sitting pretty in the league in comparison to when Freddy left, aren't they, Deep? Are we? We are 7 points above Birmingham who have 2 games in hand. They play us at home in two weeks (a defeat and we are in the relegation fight). Wigan is in 17th with 26pts (i.e 5pts less than us). We are sitting very pretty indeed. Sitting very pretty.

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi. As opposed to our number one strikers always being injured under Shepherd when the going got tough. Who was the number one defender when Shepherd sold up? Would he get in to todays back 4? Yeah and Shola isn't. It even looks like Leon Best is crocked. At this rate, we will be lucky to have any striker.

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle. Look you Shepherd apologist, you are content with a declining team and mounting debts, but i am certainly not. The team declined anyway through relegation. Can you not see it? Our number one striker is Shola Ameobi.

London but that's irrelevant.

Look you Ashley apologist, you are content with relegation cannon fodder but I certainly am not. It isn't even about getting Ashley to buckle.

Yep.

Ashley wasn't spending... Shepherd would be spending long-term, Ashley isn't and will not. Ashley did spend. What would Shepherd be spending? Consider that future income was already spent when preparing your reply. Shepherd didn't spend the future income for twenty years you know, you daft cunt.

Are you serious?

Ashley wasn't spending... Shepherd would be spending long-term, Ashley isn't and will not.

Xisco was the one that got rid of him. What about the money flowing out during that window. He was clearly making an almighty impact on the transfer window. What's that got to do with your claims that Keegan left because Ashley was "being tight" MONG Yes man-managing his transfers is being tight and spending £6million of it on a player that he doesn't want. What more can I say, he clearly was embracing Keegan. No, being tight is not spending money. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=29569 Says it all. £2.6million net spend in that transfer window. Initially, he thought he got Guiterrez on a free aswell. He's clearly breaking the bank. How much did Shepherd put in for transfers like? You tell me. I will. Nothing. Shepherd didn't need to put his own money aside for transfers because it was a self-sustaining model whereby we were regularly qualifying for Europe and it was bringing in money. Aside from that lucrative sponserships deals to fund £17million signings like Owen. Nothing like that will ever happen again (certainly, under Ashley). So why was the club insolvent when he sold it then? Was it insolvent? I am not aware that we were UNABLE to pay debts.. Operating at a loss. Worsening team. Future income spent. Do the maths? I am, still not seeing the insolvency.

Xisco was the one that got rid of him. What about the money flowing out during that window. He was clearly making an almighty impact on the transfer window. What's that got to do with your claims that Keegan left because Ashley was "being tight" MONG Yes man-managing his transfers is being tight and spending £6million of it on a player that he doesn't want. What more can I say, he clearly was embracing Keegan. No, being tight is not spending money. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=29569 Says it all. £2.6million net spend in that transfer window. Initially, he thought he got Guiterrez on a free aswell. He's clearly breaking the bank. How much did Shepherd put in for transfers like? You tell me. I will. Nothing. Shepherd didn't need to put his own money aside for transfers because it was a self-sustaining model whereby we were regularly qualifying for Europe and it was bringing in money. Aside from that lucrative sponserships deals to fund £17million signings like Owen. Nothing like that will ever happen again (certainly, under Ashley). So why was the club insolvent when he sold it then? Was it insolvent? I am not aware that we were UNABLE to pay debts..

Xisco was the one that got rid of him. What about the money flowing out during that window. He was clearly making an almighty impact on the transfer window. What's that got to do with your claims that Keegan left because Ashley was "being tight" MONG Yes man-managing his transfers is being tight and spending £6million of it on a player that he doesn't want. What more can I say, he clearly was embracing Keegan. No, being tight is not spending money. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=29569 Says it all. £2.6million net spend in that transfer window. Initially, he thought he got Guiterrez on a free aswell. He's clearly breaking the bank. How much did Shepherd put in for transfers like? You tell me. I will. Nothing. Shepherd didn't need to put his own money aside for transfers because it was a self-sustaining model whereby we were regularly qualifying for Europe and it was bringing in money. Aside from that lucrative sponserships deals to fund £17million signings like Owen. Nothing like that will ever happen again (certainly, under Ashley).

Xisco was the one that got rid of him. What about the money flowing out during that window. He was clearly making an almighty impact on the transfer window. What's that got to do with your claims that Keegan left because Ashley was "being tight" MONG Yes man-managing his transfers is being tight and spending £6million of it on a player that he doesn't want. What more can I say, he clearly was embracing Keegan. No, being tight is not spending money. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=29569 Says it all. £2.6million net spend in that transfer window. Initially, he thought he got Guiterrez on a free aswell. He's clearly breaking the bank. How much did Shepherd put in for transfers like? You tell me.