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Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER
Howay replied to Sonatine's topic in Newcastle Forum
As if he’d know what Sir Bobby would think -
Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER
Howay replied to Sonatine's topic in Newcastle Forum
He’s such a fucking bore. I think the most irritating thing about him is how he now at times wants in on the fun, after being a complete cock end the whole time the team was shite. -
Are they doing it as a joke, or are they actually serious? Its such a weird thing for them to keep having threads about every time they reach a play off final. Inbred pedo loving cunts.
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Other Games 21/22: Talk about Actual Football
Howay replied to Ayatollah Hermione's topic in Newcastle Forum
The Brentford fans will be happy either way, they’ll go home talking about how it was a lovely day out for the whole family and they all love their half and half Brentford-Leeds scarves. Bunch of plebs. I look forward to their relegation next season. For this one I’m hopeful it’s Everton, but I also want us to hammer Burnley so hopefully Everton lose both their games and Burnley beat Villa. -
Other Games 21/22: Talk about Actual Football
Howay replied to Ayatollah Hermione's topic in Newcastle Forum
I see they were also setting off fireworks outside what they thought was the Brentford teams hotel (as they’ve been doing ahead of other recent home games). I think they’ll stay up but I’m rooting against them. -
Nope . The real power move now would be to release a completely different shirt in a week or so without any mention or reference of this one.
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Newcastle United: Club Sold To PCP - Official
Howay replied to The Mighty Hog's topic in Newcastle Forum
Relegated less than Manchester United prior to Mike Ashley’s ownership iirc, but apart from that Rio nailed the point . -
All the points aside, it is a pretty canny shirt mind. I know Rayvin, and I’m sure many others, aren’t keen due to the reasoning behind it but as much as Castore have received flak over quality at least the shirt designs look pretty good - especially compared to the fucking annual nightmares produced by Puma. On the bright side we also never had that horrible kit where it just said the club name in large font across it and instead of having a badge the whole shirt was covered in the club crest in a slightly different shade of the shirt colour.
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Newcastle United: Club Sold To PCP - Official
Howay replied to The Mighty Hog's topic in Newcastle Forum
Old clip but I’d not actually seen this, it’s actually incredibly impressive how wrong Ferdinand is on every point he tries to make Mackem-favorite Humphrey didn’t even have to work to counter any of them. Absolutely staggering stuff. -
After seeing who liked the below tweet I’ve changed my mind, disregard my post above lads.
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Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER
Howay replied to Sonatine's topic in Newcastle Forum
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Unsurprisingly Ben Jacobs has a good, and well thought out, take on it in this thread:
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Newcastle United: Club Sold To PCP - Official
Howay replied to The Mighty Hog's topic in Newcastle Forum
Holt is one that really shouldn’t bother with the topic tbh. Between that old tweet and his prior with the boxing in SA, aye maybe just stay quiet on this and leave it to the other journalists. -
Aye that would be the counterpoint. Like I say I see a difference between that and sportswashing, as I see sportswashing as making their image softer and more welcoming rather than just aligning/combining brand with the club - I think doing that wouldn’t particularly change the view of them and arguably is counter to that goal since it could be a more in your face thing that riles people up and conjures up thoughts about SA directly rather than the UAE/Qatar moves where they don’t particularly tie that imagery to the clubs.
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I would say it’s more so the attacks on the fans through the guise of attacking sportswashing, but I do think them going on about every little thing that happens helps turn many away from their point too, if you wanted to show that somebody did something annoying so your way of doing it was to follow their mates about constantly pointing out any annoying thing the person did, no matter how small, the people you’re trying to convince would get annoyed by you. For me it starts to belittle their own point and makes it noise/discontent rather than really highlighting or proving things. Remember this shirt hasn’t even officially been released yet, and this is the way they’re going on. I personally don’t even see this as sportswashing. I think sportswashing moves are more like big money signings, getting good favor from fans (such as moving the Shearer statue, renaming the bar etc), tours abroad. Would this be a move to sell more shirts in SA and perhaps show the SA ‘brand’ off? Yeah but I associate sportswashing more with trying to clean their image through the sport with activities like I mentioned above, which I don’t see how having a similar change kit to their national team kit really does. There’s probably an argument that it is but I just think it’s more them doing something they want to do rather than a sportswashing move, not that it stops the journos who are chomping to call anything and everything sportswashing. I can’t help but feel the saying Castore thought to do it is a bit of an out being used, maybe even done knowing it’ll annoy these same journalists.
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Thought he was. He can comment all he likes regarding sportswashing but I just always take note of the journalists that immediately attack fans. For me they clearly don’t have any interest in the sportswashing debate and just want to use it as a tool to attack fans/express their jealousy.
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This is exactly what I mean btw. Immediately going at fans, creating this us v them sentiment which they will then be outraged about. It’s an away kit you twat, we had highlighter yellow and orange ones under Ashley. The best part is that, while they’d have done it anyway, we have had a green and white away kit in the past so his point is even worse . If these people were genuinely worried about sportswashing they wouldn’t throw around these sort of quips and lazy, pathetic trolling statements. If he really wants to discuss why Mike Ashley was disliked he should imagine what it’s like if his clubs new owners earliest moves were to hire not one, but two club legends as managers of the club, mug them off, blame them and force them out the club before taking down any connection they have with the club - that was just the first couple of years but sure something about changing the colour of away or third kit. I’m also fairly sure this bloke is a chelsea fan, a club which very recently had a very Russian themed away kit while owned by a Russian puppet.
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Could go either way I guess. I don’t think they’d have ever let it go mind, which is why I think it’s more a long term plan to make the changes and take the outrage now rather than 3-5 years time. The other side to this, if we want to launch into the whole sportswashing debate, is the journalists fuming over EVERYTHING like this also aids SA’s sportswashing agenda (or whatever the journalists will call it). If they’re going to attack every single thing the club does while the club go about their business in a professional manner that leans into/creates connections with the fans, it quickly creates this us v them mentality which we are already starting to see. I’m not saying avoid talking about it but they have to be reasonable, fair and targeted with their discussion - going after every single thing the club does and then also screaming “you show sportswashing works” at every single Newcastle fan that says they’re not bothered by this, or that it makes sense that this happened, isn’t helping “defend” sportswashing, as I say it’s just pushing people more into it.
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This is where I think the journalists that scream sportswashing at everything the club have done are playing into SA hands. Their outrage is so predictable now that SA has preempted it. I saw someone on Twitter questioning why they’d do this now since we are poor so won’t get full advantage since people abroad would only care when we are a top side, but they’re getting this outrage out the way now. They’ll make this type of kit a staple and by the time we are a top side no one will give a shit.
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Mr Bore steamrolling in again. While I’m sure there are some “defending” it from what I’ve seen most are just saying they’re indifferent to it or “what did you all expect” type responses. No shock that this poisonous prick is chomping at the bit to make a sly implication about our fan base before he backs away saying it’s not what he meant. His posts have been acting like this kit is some veiled move by SA that people are missing it’s blatantly fucking obvious, it’s just the fact of the matter is it’s not really worth getting wound up about is it?
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Newcastle United: Club Sold To PCP - Official
Howay replied to The Mighty Hog's topic in Newcastle Forum
I’d have thought it may have made it less likely? Given all the related party sponsorship shite. Either way I think it’ll streamline things a little as he will probably be closer/more hands on than Al Rummayyan, so a more accessible PiF decision maker. -
Always nice to know everything the club does winds this bong eyed cunt up.