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Ah that must be her just remember her being at a Gateshead competition and her getting some stick. Very true although I'm not a fan when it happens which is why I really hope Almunia doesn't ever get called up to the England squad, it's also why I'm not too keen on Hargreves playing for England too. Yeah this is a problem I remember when they snapped up the best steeple chaser his Kenyan team mate (who was the second best) was irate about it, I think he soon changed from Quatari to American though so he's a complete mercenary.

Have those two things been proven? Can they even be proven? Yes THG doesn't stay in the system that long he was Banned 4 years ago now he's been clean all that time he's had tests since coming back and during his ban (when he made a dismal attempt to play in NFL europa). He has always been the size he is now (size isn't everything in sprinting though Tyson Gay is alot smaller than Chambers but also a hell of alot better also Shawn Crawford and Jason Smoots are bigger than Chambers but I wouldn't say either are better especially not Smoots) and since track and field athletes are amongst the most often tested sportsmen and women around I doubt he'd been on THG very long as the testers are normally quick to catch up with the newest steroids. Jaap Stam and Edgar Davids were both banned after testing positive for nandrolone and there wasn't much of an outcry when they returned after only 6 month bans this whole thing has been unfair on Chambers imo he admitted to using the drugs he wasn't like Marion Jones and lied about it, served the ban which was given too him if they didn't want him back they should have given him a longer ban. I hope he wins in Valencia then goes on to make the British Olympic team, not that we will win anything in the sprinting events at the Olympics but he is our best shot. Spot on. What strikes me about this is alot of people in the media that are talking about this subject probably didn't know or care much about sprinting. If they really want to vilify someone so much theres a lass who does long jump or triple jump who was born and raised in England but is competing for Italy now and from what I remember she is good.

They're completely out of his system now, he already had the physique he has before he took THG he was already a very good sprinter he just wanted that little bit extra to get amongst the elite (mainly Americans). I'm personally glad he has been selected he's shown real determination and it simply would be unfair on him if they turned round and denied him, they set the ban length. We are amongst the harshest when it comes to steroids, I'll scrap what I said about Gatlin I've just found out his 8 year ban was cut to a 4 year and now it's been cut to a 2 year one, they reckon he might protest to have it halved again he'll be at the Olympics by this rate .

You held your own those guys seriously knew nowt. Love their comments like "was that your comeback?" when you fully answered every point the mong was making. Class how he uses beating Stuttgart once as an example of how brilliant Rangers are people like that are generally funny until you relise they genuinely mean what they are saying. Also it was gold when he mentioned 2 players who went on to bigger things from Rangers, then he really did struggle to think of another till a page later he said Alan Hutton.

Everyones an expert on us at the minute, we've just got to take the constant barrage of shite hurled at us because we all know (for the majority of fans anyway) it's not true. The people on that forum really know fuck all one of them thinks Martins is perenially injured like michael owen and duff. Also the amount of glory hunters on there makes me sick they're the sort of people where in a footy conversation in person they would know nowt besides what Man U had won in the last decade, but when they are on a forum they just copy and paste shed loads of shite from wikipedia or repeat what some arsehole sports writer has written. Whooopee the same Ireland fans that also love Man Utd and Liverpool. The US fans will be the same dimwits that want to be Irish for some bizarre reason and due to all the Irish flags at celtic games probably have mistaken celtic for being Irish. Australia and New Zealand he's making it up that lad. Didn't we just spank Celtic 4-1 recently in a pre season game? I've noticed they constantly ducked your point about the only reason Celtic and Rangers win things is because pretty much all the other clubs in the Scottish league are light years behind them. I don't know how you could have been bothered to put up with a load of nonces like that they were in their element attacking Newcastle then as soon as you point at their club your talking shit, don't know anything etc. Celtic and Rangers would struggle in the premiership imo they do well now and again in one off games vs premiership teams but so do league two teams does that mean they could hack it?

Attention seeker-tastic that comment @yourservice posted is class, I noticed this one: Certainly some odd fuckers out there like

I hate them especially around derby time, their shite when on about football because all they seem to be bothered about is beating us or finishing above us I doubt many of them would be disappointed if they finished 19th so long as we were 20th. I've met one or two that were canny but the vast majority are scum probably just the town they're from though because it is a total shit hole. I probably hate them a little less than Cockneys though.

Shame some of the other lads lost their medals because of it although Dervonish deserved to loose his medal simply for the horrific bbc program I saw him on where he messed about pretending to be building his house. Campbell's retired now too so you wont have to worry about it any time in the future either. I definately think they are pushing the boundaries now like, I hope Tyson Gay and Asafa Powell aren't found to be on any drugs or that will show your assumption would be true in the 100m at least.

He's a decent centre back and he probably wont improve loads unless he gets a good centre back alongside him he does have tenancies to do some pretty bizarre stuff but generally is quite dependable. Out of him and Richards it is without doubt Richards that is the better player, he's quicker, stronger, more composed, better tackler, better athlete just all round a better player.

Served his ban end of imo he should be able to race again, another factor they seem to overlook is he is our best sprinter. He took the drugs because he wanted to catch up to Mo Greene and his coach was advising him to take them saying they were untraceable. The man took a risk got caught served the ban they gave him kept fit and returned good on him. Americans seem to give out longer bans than us as Justin Gatlin got an 8 year ban so that's him finished and I think Tim Montgomery got a similar one, I think it should be the same lengthy ban for our drug cheats. I say let him run at the Olympics too if he can qualify. Edit: About Ohuruogu she missed 3 tests total over a certain length of time, she actually had tests in between the ones she missed and she passed all of them tests so she was clean. Also Darren Campbell still hates Chambers for costing him that gold medal so I'm pretty sure the rest of that sprint team will be pissed off with him still, well at least he could be mates with Pickering .

I don't think this will be too far off how it actually finishes. Granted our form is just as bad as those below and around us but we do have quite a large lead on those teams already.

I agree, I hope Ashley does back Keegan with cash (because it will have to be a lot) to get in players like Bentley we need a large splurge of cash like what City did at the start of the season. Actually adding to my point before we need a midfield who can hold onto the ball because at the minute the pressure is rarely off the defence, watching the Manchester derby before I noticed that although City were under pressure for long periods of the 2nd half they managed to take time on the attack and were always able to avoid losing the ball by passing, we rarely do this whenever we attack it always looks rushed especially when the ball falls to our central midfield players they can't seem to get rid quick enough.

I'm just as happy as I was when Keegan first arrived I knew it would be a struggle all you had to do was look at the fixtures, we had 2 (arguably 3) of our better players away in Africa and there wasn't long left before the transfer window shut. As long as we stay up this season I'm not worried because I'm still hoping that Ashley is going to keep his word and start showing more ambition and backing Keegan in the transfer market. I don't think our problems are as massive as the papers try to make out, Given has zero confidence at the minute and the centre back pairing is always either chopping and changing or simply not working, the right back is solid and I think Enrique can be a good player for us if we would ever play him. Our wingers are good but given the chance I'd like to see Bentley here, we're also good up front they just don't get the service we could maybe do with a tall striker like a (as much as it makes me sick to say it) Kenewyn Jones or someone in that mould. In my opinion our main problem is the central midfield we have no creativity there whatsoever just a bunch of 'destroyers' who can't even do that, this area definitely needs strengthening, other than that it's a case of confidence being shot to pieces and a terrible league position which the blame falls at the feet of (as much as he thinks it doesn't) Allardyce, we had so many easy points squandered under him. Obviously having a new centre back, new central midfield, new tall powerful striker and David Bentley all here and the team full of confidence is a very tough task but hopefully we can get somewhere near it for next season and we may do alright with that and finish in the top half possibly challenging for a UEFA cup spot.

I've got no idea who Allardyce thinks he is he must think he's up there with Wenger and Fergie, even if he was at Man U he wouldn't do well because he'd be doing the same shite he did here like playing ronaldo left back and things like that. The man is delusional he thought the fans adored him at the time of his sacking .

I really don't get these peoples problem all we do is support our team yet we get abuse for it. The fans were chanting "walking in a Keegan wonderland" when we were winning and they get abused by him yet the Villa fans boo their team off at half time and he jizzes over how they then cheered their team when they were winning and then bleats on about how they sung theres only one Kevin Keegan . Yes we aren't playing well but neither are some other teams and I haven't seen any other team getting this needless stick, it's about time they packed it all in talk about flogging a dead horse everyone knows we're shite even us the fans know we are yet these tossers still feel the need to keep on telling us we are in 'witty' and 'humorous' ways . edit/ It's also great how they make these stereotypes of us and then rip them to bits we cant win can we Bunch of Racists

Their last song had Micah Richards and Anton Ferdinand in the video

You reckon Wigan will do alright like? they have Arsenal, Chelsea, Man city, Man U and Pompey all still to play. I still think it will be Derby, Fulham and Wigan going down.

Some fan you are taking enjoyment out of our doing badly I'm not even a fan any more,The clubs to much of a joke to even bother wanting to go see them play."King" Kev's return was the last straw for me. If things eventually turn round and the Toon start doing well don't bother crawling back saying your a fan. I still don't see how any of this is Keegans fault Allardyce landed us in this mess.

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Why don't Man utd, Liverpool and co just pair up with some clubs in Japan or wherever and change the name of the Japanese clubs to Manchester Tokyo United or some shit and let them have the same crest and then play them in friendlies often and send younger players on loan there etc, I'm sure they would still all go crazy over there for it. What I thought was pathetic was seeing a group of Indians, Japanese, Chinese and others from that region all dancing round in 2000-01 season Man U tops with crappy flags banging on about how their the champions Yes there is money to be had but it makes no odds whatsoever if it's a competitive Premiership match or a friendly between Premiership teams they will turn up for it either way, tbh I'm not sure how much they even know or care about football they just support the winners and obsess over who they think the media tells them too i.e Beckham and C.Ronaldo an example of this is when Real Madrid went to Japan (I think it was Japan) but Beckham was injured the Real Madrid players Zidane, Carlos, Figo et al were booed they just wanted to see David Beckham.

This ones canny pathetic like http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3325439.ece I'm not quite sure why the Muslim council is shocked by this decision the guy supports terrorists ffs And it also seems an odd way of them defending themselves by saying he didn't get his visa because of a "zionist lobby"

I agree with you both I don't see how it's a thing we can possibly compromise over the law is the law, honor killings and all these other things are just plain wrong and should never ever be accepted, woman are treat like 2nd class citizens (probably worse than that) in Sharia law and to be honest it sounds rather boring to be a bloke under that law as well. The daftest part about it is that countries in the middle east are alot harsher than us beheading terrorists etc. So I can see why they think we are such soft touches over here and why they think they can bring in their laws because ours don't sit comfortably with them. What is most annoying is if you say anything along these lines you get branded racist I have never had a problem with anyone that lives here peacefully but all this changing the laws to suit them rubbish I'm not having that. I do agree that people in this country are often indifferent and sheeplike but I doubt they'd let something like this go ahead and I'd hope our government will never sanction it.

Ahh right but not all Muslims actually like it at all do they. To be honest he's just probably trying to drum up a bit of religious hatred/make more people Christian rather than Atheist.

The whole topic seems pointless to me because it isn't going to happen Muslims are in the minority and they are a really small minority and of course Shia Muslims will be an even smaller minority. As for these bits that's just tough luck on them if they want to live here they have to abide by the laws of the country, same as I would if I wanted to live in another country.