Howay

Any true Manchester United fan that I've ever met is incredibly chuffed that they've won the league 'again' every time they win it, the only ones that don't care are the glory hunters. Trophies are success it's not moronic or knuckle dragging to say that in fact it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise, Abramovic took a club that was in financial trouble and made them into what they are today how is that not success? In the majority of cases success in football is bought, you use Burnley as an example but they will have no doubt spent more on players + wages than the teams scrapping to avoid relegation into League one so they bought their way into the play-offs. What about Manchester City so you think when/if they eventually win a title, their 1st since the late '60's their fans wont be happy?

So you'd rather watch Ameobi and co meander around bloomfield road in an inept 1-1 draw than win a title with players like Drogba, Lampard and Cole? Also the 'Ashley understands the Geordie culture' shite proves to me that this lad is either on the wind up or not all there. Your comment about not giving players more than 20k a week and telling them to fuck off if they ask for more, I'd agree you would get players that would play for the team but it would be championship standard dross like Best, Perch etc not Premiership standard players like Tiote, Collo or Enrique.

He didnt 'show loyalty' to Hughton or 'give him another chance'. He simply left Hughton in charge to hold the fort while he was trying to sell the club, which is why he didnt appoint a manager. In the mean time Hughton started doing well and I suspect Ashley then had a re-think and realised he didnt need to sell as a return to the Premiership and Sky money looked a strong possiblity early on. He struck lucky that the temporary man in charge until he found a buyer actually turned out to be a good manager, nothing to do with judgement or loyalty. Nail on the head.

Surely a WUM? A season watching second tier football followed by a season trying to survive better than 2 seasons of challenging for the Premiership title You should go and support a team like West Brom they get pairs of seasons like this all the time.

Just count yourself lucky you've not had to watch a Sam Allardyce team week in week out then.

wonder where we'd be in the league now if we'd kept Carroll and Ben Arfa had never got injured.

I hope you're taking the piss

She's probably thinking I'm from Houghton Le Spring, my belly is twice the size of my tits, who else is going to shag me. :D Very true

He's certainly not part of the best central midfield pairing in the country. In fact I'd go so far to say Liverpool's problem this year has been their midfield. Wilshire, Modric, Van Der Vaart, Scholes, Villa, Tiote, Essien all better. And there'll be many more I haven't mentioned. Agreed PMSL as tough guy's statements they're barely the best midfield in Liverpool let alone the country especially as Gerrard is perma-crocked.

FIFA on da line with iz brethren innit Followed by a bottle of Vodka from Sainsa's then tup tup

Looks like he's wearing a toon top in the pic of him, it looks like the one that we had when Kluivert was here think we wore it where we beat Chelsea and Kluivert scored a header. Total scumbag btw and all those women are thick as fuck in all especially the one having a 2nd with him not really got grounds for complaint does she edit; looks like this one http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirt...hirt_3459_1.jpg

Decent manager, bit of a cock and has done an ok job so far but not really been able to put his mark on the team yet. If he's given money to spend it'll be interesting to see who he brings in and how he puts his team out, he is a puppet but really can't blame him as this is the biggest job he's had and he knew the owner was a cunt coming into it.

Agree with this tbh, we need to start building a squad as well as improving our first 11 we can't just let everyone go that we deem isn't going to be a first team regular. For the money they're talking you'd be hard pressed to improve on routledge so there's really no point, especially as it seems he doesn't really want to leave.

I wonder if they'd work in the same team together. For all his quality, Ronaldo's temperament and tendency to sulk when things aren't going his way is what will always make Messi a better player for me. Aye Messi's personality and attitude would swing it for me if I had to choose, just a class act on and off the field. Ronaldo's also a bit greedier and tends to have a crack whenever he's given half a yard (I know he has a hell of a shot and scores a fair share this way though) which can sometimes spoil good moves whereas messi will look to set up one-two's to set up an easier shot.

They're both world class players, I think Messi is the better dribbler etc whereas Ronaldo is the better athlete. Their effectiveness is very similar.

The worry is how much you need to spend to buy anything like a decent replacement. How much did city have to pay for Dzeko? Whatever it was it was too much, he's gash. if they spend much of it at all

It's areet though because we've got £35m

He did murmur something of the sort iirc, and aye signing a new contract means fuck all. I don't think Tiote will be away though hopefully selling Enrique will be enough for the fat bollock.

Most of us are basing our assumption off seeing various sub appearances as well as the start, I'm not completely writing him off just would prefer sub appearances to be what he gets rather than starts (I know due to injuries etc it's forced Pardews hand) as he's obviously miles away from playing at this level. A loan to a championship club would be the best option (IF we get strikers in, which if we don't we're fucked next season anyway), we may as well just try other young strikers like Phil Airey while we're at it because Ranger really hasn't shown anything to be deserving of his current place.

Fwiw when Shola's fit I'd far rather him play than Ranger, as shite as Shola is he can score (no matter how rarely) whereas Ranger has missed more sitters than any striker I've seen in a while, massive difference between reserves and 1st team and atm Ranger looks a million miles away from becoming an effective top flight player (if he ever will become one). He fell on his arse on at least 3 occasions and lacked the footballing brain to pass to Lovenkrands twice.

Scottish?

Bollocks. He's been crap. Offered nowt. If you're good enough, you're old enough. Considering you think Enriques been up for it today you're clearly off the mark. If anyone has looked like they can't be fucked because they're leaving he has. Enrique looked like he believed all the hype about himself today and was terrible, Barton had a nightmare in all but there's nee defending Ranger he was woeful he fell over unchallenged 3 times should have put Lovenkrands through twice early on and was just a total bag of shit throughout, not knee-jerking and saying sell him but he's either far from ready, which at 19/20 he should be looking at least somewhat promising, or he's just total shit.

Ranger's shit, ball greedy, clumsy and blinkered when on the ball and shit movement when off it.

Very hard to pick from Barton, Tiote and Nolan tbh they've all been major factors in most of our good results this season. Nolan's 12 goals is very impressive but equally impressive has been all of Barton's creativity and Tiote's controlling of tempo. My vote goes to Tiote simply because I'd next to no previous knowledge of him and he's made an instant impact which in itself is impressive. Aye good point tbh, set himself a very high bar and despite being always nothing short of a solid LB due to him being such a standout it makes him more noticeable if he has a slightly 'off' game.

Really hope we do these pricks the day, Stevie's post is bang on about how mental they went when we went down which I still really don't understand. Just read an interview with Taylor on about Villa fans congregating outside the team hotel chanting "you're going down" etc hopefully that fires the team up. Also agree with 2J about keeping Barton wide, he's has the best delivery out of anyone we've got and out wide he's out the way of the usually more congested centre where he's more likely to pick up a booking for doing anything now that refs seem to be looking to book him whenever he gives them half an excuse.