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Did you watch the game? he just come on and won us a match that had 0-0 written all over it, Best was shocking all match and contributed nowt offensively or defensively which makes him far more of a luxury that Ben Arfa was when he come on. Ben Arfa freed up Ba as soon as he come onto the pitch, if he'd of started today we'd of been up at the half.

Ben Arfa would really open this game up for us, Best couldn't finish his dinner the day.

This, they really do make it seem this way. Only this collection of self righteous mugs would defend one of their players who racially abused a fellow professional player by racially abusing that same player, seriously man you couldn't make this stuff up. Aye I know the twitter comments aren't every single scouser but imagine the uproar us lot would be getting if a bunch of our fans did this, pretty much every support base in the country would get ripped to pieces by this except this lot because like stevie said I'm sure papers are restricted about what they can say about this rabble. If the FA are actually serious about the let's kick racism out of football campaign (which they should be) there is no possible way that a bloke who has admitted racially abusing a fellow pro should see his ban shortened. I think it was Monkeys fist who said it and he was bang on, it doesn't matter if this is normally a 'nice' term in his home country Suarez brought race into play and anyone who seriously believes Suarez was repeating a term of endearment to Evra 10-15 times during an argument is an idiot.

You need some creativity man, playing Ben Arfa ahead of Best or Obertan wouldn't make us much weaker defensively at all. Given a good run of games Cabaye and Ben Arfa with Tiote in his defensive role could be very good.

Scousers.

Agreed he looked a proper player tonight, hope he gets more chances whenever there are injuries/bans in the team.

It's known as humour, you fermented trout. well I think it's distasteful...and that says a lot. I find it distasteful that you used the word retarded so it evens out.

Aye think he's starting to show his true level, I like the bloke he's a good professional but he just doesn't seem a constant enough threat to be a premiership forward. Agreed, especially in the 1st half.

we are missing Steven Taylor. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't rate him. Agreed, I like Taylor particularly alongside Colocinni but Williamson/Perch are both poor back up and who knows when Taylor will be back with the injury he has.

A striker and a Centre Back are a must in this window, could do with a full back and a winger (to replace Obertan seeing as Ben Arfa wont be playing there). If the forward and CB aren't signed it's just yet another confirmation of what we already expect MA to be.

I've defended him, not saying 'he must go' or shite like that but tactically Pardew has been fucking dreadful this run of games. I've not read through the thread so if Ben Arfa is injured then fair enough but Pardew is seriously taking the piss persisting with Obertan, I was thinking what has to happen to get Ben Arfa in the starting line-up and I really feel that if Obertan was injured Sammy Ameobi would be played ahead of Ben Arfa. I thought Vuckic had a canny game but we looked lifeless, there was seriously nowt about us in this game Demba Ba was our only player, Colo had his worst game in 3 year and I thought some of Tiote's passing was horrific (iirc his very poor pass attempt to Obertan led to Brunt getting the ball and passing to Odemwinge for their 1st). I seriously don't understand why we played such a high line against perhaps the fastest striking partnership in the league has Pardew never watched West Brom before? Like I said before there was nowt about us tbh and aye we did miss Yohann but this is why Ben Arfa should have started over Obertan or Best. Watching replays of the freekick that led to Ba's 1st Obertan had passing opportunities but his head was completely down eyes on the ball, he was just running hoping to be fouled imo so he didn't have to do anything total shite player, there's no more 'give him time' he's had half a season now and he looks even more incompetent than when he 1st started playing. 1 point from Norwich, Swansea and West Brom is very poor, what's more worrying that's come from these games is Pardew's ineptitude with substitutions and sometimes dire tactics.

If you mean pygmy, then colour is irrelevent because pygmy describes a people who're unusually short. If you mean something else, I'm baffled as pygmee isn't in Wikipedia. At first I thought you were racist, then I thought you stupid, now I've concluded you're both. He's a WUM mate that post is clearly looking for a bite. Suarez is a scumbag glad he got done for this hope the 8 match ban is upheld.

Really disappointed by this one, we should have comfortably beaten this Swansea side. Obertan needs dropped to the reserve teams bench he's seriously that bad. Santon looked composed and it really let Jonas attack most the game, Colo is class, Perch actually played decent I thought despite not having much to do. Ba is quality and Best played well alongside him I'd of really fancied us to win if Ben arfa had played over Obertan, even Sammy gives us options down the right. The only reason I doubt Ben Arfa had a knock is it wouldn't make sense to have him on the bench if he was unable to play.

Absolutely baffling why he didn't get on today we needed a spark something Ben Arfa can provide but we leave fucking Obertan on till the 80th minute then bring on two youth players, seriously not the time to play Sammy but especially Vuckic. Ben Arfa can play anywhere across midfield yet Pardew seems to have in his head he can only play one specific position that he rarely lines up with.

This. Aye he's not the best but he's better than R.Taylor imo if Jonas played on the right Simpson would look fairly solid. I'd prefer us to just keep him and pay him a little more than risk getting something worse.

If he boils your blood so much then why not just avoid the thread about him?

HERE MAN! Kadars the bestest CB we've got even though I've only seen him twice. PARDEW OUT! I wonder if people will be calling for Adam Campbell when we lose Ba to the ACN.

Iirc Onouha wasn't great at the mackems, although Messi would struggle to perform with that shambles so I guess it doesn't say much. I'd agree with you Aeris but that comes down to the Owner, if you're having a go at Ashley then aye I agree but you can't mark that one against Pardew (not saying you are).

Because it's not easy, we've got prospects in our youth like Richardson and at CB Tavernier is supposedly good but we'd loaned him out and were unable to recall him. The fact they've not renewed Kadars contract sort of shows they no longer have faith in him, they no doubt thought he was good but we don't know any circumstances maybe his progress stalled or maybe he's lazy it could be anything. They are definitely looking it's just a difficult task.

Class

Look man, they see Kadar every day in training the very fact that Simpson and Perch aren't really tall enough to play the CB position should tell you that they obviously don't like what they see with Kadar. Don't bother bringing up his International caps either it means nothing at all, players like David fucking Nugent have England caps. Aye he's 6' 2" but he's not a big lad, his 13 appearances in the Championship doesn't mean an awful lot either the fact is Hughton brought in Perch so he must not have rated Kadar and the other youth prospects too highly either.

Mali will get into the knockout stages tbh and iirc they'd draw a relatively easy side if they come runner up in their group, we'll have him back about a week and a half into February.

Danny_B tbh.

Aye his world class running in circles routine gives him an automatic 6 no matter how useless his performance is, it also give him a player of the year award in a relegated team the man can do no wrong.

Doesn't matter I've seen his rating at FIFA compared to Perch, and I've seen Perch play so that's good enough for me.