Howay

That list man, it's a good list of blokes who shouldn't be involved in running a football club. May as well hire Howard Wilkinson

Yup and the win was his first right? so before he really got a chance to stamp his authority on the team, the same way Sissoko, Cisse etc were all seemingly talented players before they had a few months under Alan. Poor excuse for a manager. As for the press coverage, it's all coming up Ashley again though isn't it? he's just got his name and no doubt his companies name in numerous national newspapers again. We're just a vehicle for his trampy shops to sell more shite, tired of him and tired of this pleb Pardew. We wont win another derby with this bloke in charge.

Agreed, Altidore also got the free kick when he dived under pressure from Dummett, up the other end 5 minutes later Cisse went down under actual contact and told to get up. Fletcher was climbing all over Dummett for the first in all. Probert gave in to the home fans today, thoroughly depressing that we have to look to things like this shows how poor we were. Like I've said we didn't deserve any points from that but they got some big gifts from the ref, especially the Fletcher one he bottled that for sure.

Good post there Fish, it is worrying that we're a 45 min team tbh. I've no idea what is wrong as we have good players on the books but they never really turn up together, some do one game but then don't bother the next. It's just tough watching other teams players work hard every game, even when they get completely outclassed they still work hard and don't roll over, whereas our team tend to just roll over and take a drumming and when we are against a lesser side we never effectively step up and control the game. Pardew really needs to sort himself out as it's all embarrassing, he's what worries me the most tbh as players like Sissoko and Cisse looked incredible when they first come yet now look very poor (cisse especially). I mean watching Sissoko today I'd never believe you that he burnt Ashley Cole for pace and put two past Chelsea.

Feel for the lads like you that have to put up with their shite, sickening lack of desire today by the team.

Noticed they did that twice in the game, Tiote did it once and the ref made him re-take it while the mackems didn't retake either.

Agreed, they were all just looking to shoot from range as soon as they got the ball. Seemed pre-occupied with working the ball into more open shots for players like Cabaye which worries me as it seems like a tactic by Pardew. Long rangers no matter how well worked are always going to be tough, we should have been good enough to work the ball into the box against a really shit side. I still think Fletcher was climbing on Dummett for their first but regardless we were utterly shit today and got what we deserved.

So the last two derby losses give us another tactic Pardew has no counter for, he was yet again clueless on how to set his team up effectively against a 4-4-2 high pressing side sickening when many believe that formation has become ineffective that we're now 5-1 against it in 2 games. Do the players not listen to Pardew? or is he just completely inept at getting players up for a game like this? as there was literally no reaction at the kick offs of the first and 2nd half.

Yup, got a feeling this is the way Derbies will be under this bloke. Much like how in the past the mackems would lose/scrape a draw regardless of the form of both teams, we're now the 'bottlers' in this derby thanks to Pardew. Utter fucking disgrace all round by the players they should be completely ashamed of themselves, but doubt they give a fuck tbh. We looked gutless and pathetic there, Cisse has no purpose being on a football pitch whatsoever he'd been on the pitch 15 minutes and had already given up harrying the back four. Shambles when our best chances really all came from shots from distance, we rarely tried to work it in the box just kept drilling it from 25+ yards. Defending was a joke, they made truly shit players like Altidore look somewhat useful, says it all when we're the only side seemingly that Borini can score against. Furious.

They want to pack that shite corner routine in as well, with them all standing in a line. Mackems just bumped them all when they started their runs which meant none of them got into the channels and yet another corner was completely ineffective. Starting to think we should just treat corners like throw ins from now on as Pardew has no clue what to do with them.

Don't bother with defensive training either by the looks of it.

I thought the same thing about Sissoko, he's been completely anonymous. Really embarrassing performance so far today, no real chances against the worst team in the league is a disgrace. Our passing has been absolutely laughable, players passing straight to mackem players that are 3 yards away. I'm really annoyed that they are putting 3 men on Ben Arfa yet we don't seem to take advantage of any gaps that level of coverage should give us. Should have been fired up for this one but they come out like it was an early training session and they'd all had a heavy night on the drink, disgraceful.

Getting dragged down to their level here, like we have done in the recent few. I'm disgusted by the players tbh, show some fucking pride.

Dragged down to their level yet again so far. Scrappy shitty start.

Anyone else seen that flag with Poyet's face on it and the word Legend underneath? I really hope it wasn't Poyet but I'm canny sure it was, find this one of the most pathetic aspects of mackems tbh, no real legends of their own so they cling to any legends of other sides that come to them like Keane and Di Canio.

Agreed, just hoping we see a repeat of last weeks Tiote today. Cattermole is going to be completely reckless today like usual so I hope Pardew has told Tiote he'd do more damage if he just stays calm, takes the fouls and plays his game.

That central midfield of theirs is piss weak, I really expect Tiote, Cabaye and Sissoko to step up and really dominate today.

Really don't get their logic with regards to us here tbh, I've seen a few mentioning this "they're shite but have fluked 11 points". One even stated that we were shit last season and only bought one player so therefore still shit, which doesn't really work since the players are looking far better this year.

It's great to see them this shite, knowing our luck they'll have pulled it round by December 7th.

Lawro has it down as a 1-1 draw, so we're going to win.

Have to agree with Fish here like, the last one was a joke they were all just drooling and mashing the keyboards at their community library. Waste of time tbh.

Far more insulting than his "wee club" comment about us. Ouch.

Saw an interview with him a few week ago on Conan, his accent is so fucked up no hint of a Geordie accent tbh it's all over the place like Christian Bales.