Howay

He's a total thug but he's a canny defender tbh

I do know, it isn't the Jury's job to believe the defence or prosecution. You said the Jury believed the defence which is completely wrong, like I said before the defence successfully proved doubt in the prosecutions case or the prosecution couldn't prove their case beyond reasonable doubt. Belief doesn't enter into it and neither do assumptions. What the individuals in the jury believed is completely irrelevant, they made their judgement based on what was proven in court.

Because they didn't believe the defences case, that isn't what happened, the defence successfully showed there was doubt or the prosecution failed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the crime happened. That's what happened in the eyes of the law, which is what we are talking about. There may have been people in the jury who believed the defence and people in the jury that believed the prosecution but as a whole the jury came together and decided that the prosecution did not have a strong enough case, belief did not come into it.

Because that's not how the law works, the defences job isn't to have the jury believe them, it's to weaken the prosecutions case to prove the crime beyond reasonable doubt. It's not about assumptions or beliefs it is about proof and evidence.

They didn't believe the defences case though, it's simply that the prosecution was not able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that there was no consent.

Again that simply isn't how the law works, judgement's are not passed on assumptions, you have to prove your case. If the defence solicitor turned up and used them going to a hotel room and the assumption that they were consenting to have sex as his only evidence his case would have lost.

No, an assumption is without proof, the defence will have had to prove it was consensual and the prosecution will have had to prove it wasn't, they don't just go off assumptions. The going to the hotel room together would have been used as one part of the defences case to prove consent, it wouldn't have been a the only point or else it would have been an assumption and too weak.

No they assessed all of the evidence of the trial and passed a judgement, they didn't just take an assumption that because they went into a hotel room together they were both consenting to sex.

No it doesn't man, the jury didn't all just sit there and go "well there you go they went into a hotel room together so it's 100% certain they both were consenting". Also the initial point was you saying the police shouldn't have took the case further and pressed charges against her because of footage of them going to a hotel room together, which is would have been using an assumption, which they didn't because the law doesn't work on assumptions.

The law doesn't work on assumptions.

It's not burying my head, chances are she went there to have sex with him (providing she was able to make decisions and from Ewerk's point about her level of inebriation, she wasn't at a level where she could give consent) but that isn't enough, you can't just throw a case out because it seems like they were both off to have sex, that's an assumption and isn't strong enough to throw a case out.

Going into a hotel room with someone isn't consent to have sex is it? that's why they can't just leave it there and charge her with wasting police time. Also you can't just change the law like you said, as Ewerk said it'll pressure genuine cases even more than they already are. Rape is often extremely hard to prove, so there are cases where rapists get off the same as there will be cases where innocent people will be locked up. It's an extremely sensitive issue, that's why it is taken so seriously in all cases.

He was one of the ones that booked man.

Them Chelsea TV commentators are a right pair of wet farts like "if there's any justice we'ww win 94-1" . Hell of a whip on that free kick like, wouldn't have been far off going in without the touch off the hand especially with the keeper's positioning.

Surprisingly lighter than I thought it would be. Was it Mourinho that had a stadium (or touchline) ban and hid in a laundry basket to get into the changing room and give the team talk?

300: Rise of an empire. Canny enough action movie tbh. Agree on Eva Green having canny chebs in all.

Aye that's it like, I'm fairly sure the 9-1 loss to them was the same season we won the title, I'd happily take that again!

They'll be living on that until the next time they're in the premiership. The daft part is I remember after we beat them 5-1 they'd all moan "you're still fucking talking about that" a week after

Aye his hat collection is unparalleled. I once saw him in a student flat rentals place in Jesmond, trying to get stuck into the lass working there, "Get in Shola" someone yelled and Shola give them a big thumbs up. No point to the story but the slow languid way he raised his hand reminded me of how he runs about on the pitch.

They can really sit back and enjoy the "excitement" of the relegation dog fight they're in now. They had a cracking good time going all the way to Wembley to watch their team get spanked, but they can be proud knowing they were 45 minutes away from successfully parking the bus. Enjoy the trips to sunny scunny you absolute pack of fucking tramps. Your 'classyness' won't be missed one bit, hope they stay down there and rot like Boro.

Shola is world class in training though

He should be made to race in one of them daft wonga balls at half time every game, may as well make use of him.

'ranks pretty high on the ah, you probably shouldn't do that scale'.

Good shout, I've only got one at the minute. I've been long enough that they let me pick my own feeder clubs now. It's just canny annoying as Southampton seem to produce top players every year if I'm not in charge

Been getting frustrated with the regens coming through on my game tbh, I never seem to get good groups. If I play as another team Southampton produce top players pretty much every year, now as Southampton I had a good starting batch, 2nd year was pretty average but since then I've been getting half a star- 1 star products at best, my Director has told me not to bother signing any of them the last 4 years. I've updated my youth recruitment, youth facilities and junior coaching so they're now all as high as they can be, I even fired my director of football and replaced him with Rudi Voller but just got another absolutely shite batch. In contrast Man City, Chelsea and West Ham are bringing through lads who are able to go and play for championship sides at 15/16. Don't know if it's luck of the draw or what but according to searches I've done I should be having a canny return by now.