Howay

Game in hand on West Brom (which is against Man City at the emirites) and 4 points behind them, .

Adam Johnson, surprised he didn't start the game tbh.

2-0 Diame, bye bye mackems. Big Andy with the assist.

Gerrin Big Andy

They're all at fault, the players aren't doing their job as they're vastly underperforming. The staff are at fault as the team seem to be out there without any direction or hint of tactic, it's not enough to say "ahh well they're professionals they should be able to play football" they're going up against 11's that are also professional but have a clear philosophy and tactic in place for the game. They're both at fault for motivation, it's the staffs job to motivate the players but they players are also responsible as at the end of the day this is their job, in an office it's your bosses job to supervise you and make sure you're on task, if he wasn't doing his job it wouldn't give you the right to dick about doing nothing all day. So in short they're all at fault for this, the reason Pardew gets flak instead of Carver and Stone is that he's the boss, he makes the final decisions and he's supposed to be devising the tactics etc.

Aye have to say I'm a lot less bothered by results, I think the frequency of the 3-0 and 4-0 drubbings we've had this season has really helped that. There was a time where a 4-0 drubbing was completely embarrassing, but in recent weeks it's come to be expected and almost feels the same as a 2-0 loss which is ridiculous. Everton walked through us as if we weren't even there, Southampton done likewise, I'm at the point where they can all do one tbh. Pardew for his shite tactics and decisions, Ashley for his large part and the players for being embarrassing on the field, I understand the point about how the knackers in charge have made the players apathetic but I still expect them to show some effort and have some pride. The recent performances should make the players ashamed of themselves. I'm pretty apathetic to Ben Arfa leaving tbh, we barely ever see him play anyway and as much as I love watching the lad I'm frustrated with him for clearly letting himself go. I can also get his apathy towards his place due to poor management but he's still an adult and has been unprofessional himself. Like I said though, it barely matters as Pardew has no clue how to use him anyway and would far rather have someone like Danny Guthrie.

Got to give credit to Rodgers mind, many (admittedly myself included) thought he was going to be poor but he's really stuck by his guns and built a team around his philosophy, has them playing very good and effective football. Really turned round players like Henderson, and Gerrards new deeper role has worked very well. Of course I don't want them to win the league but if they do they still deserve credit. I agree on how ridiculous the "plucky underfunded underdogs" story is, they've spent less than their competitors but have still spent a lot but being honest you can't win this league without spending big.

Yeah, it looked bizarre at times but it all worked really well. The uses of 'bad' CGI worked great as well. I'll definitely be giving it another watch sometime, especially as I missed Bill Murray's cameo. Shame it's not out down there, it luckily has a run at a cinema right next to me as the closest one after that is a good hour or so drive away. Those videos are interesting Happy Face, he definitely uses both those shots extensively in Grand Budapest Hotel, of course the videos have some examples from the trailer but there are a lot of shots of Ralph Fiennes character and his friend Zero's faces close up and centered. Beautiful film.

Just saw the Grand Budapest Hotel, really enjoyed it, lots of very good performances. Ralph Fiennes was hilarious in it.

Agreed I thought their poor defence would have cost them by now, but they've managed to keep up their crazy high scoring rate.

We finished the game with 3 left backs on the pitch, what a shambles.

Just so you know you aren't 'getting to' me or upsetting me, I'm just shocked you can find it so hilarious to keep using that word to try and rile someone up on an internet forum, on a Saturday. Just know because (I'm assuming) you're fortunate enough that no one close to you could come under the broad derogatory term retarded it doesn't make it okay to be ignorant towards this. I don't expect to get through to you so this will be my last post as I'm off out anyway, but I hope you pack using that term in sometime in the future and realise how unintelligent using it makes you seem.

And if I was there would be something wrong with that? Honestly you're disgusting, worse than saying racist things tbh as the people you're referring to are largely incapable of standing up for themselves. I hope you're banned soon, I never give a damn before but now you're just really working to try and offend people it's pathetic that you'd spend your time doing this.

Aye you're right, I normally avoid bothering with her but I can't tolerate the use of that word tbh. Anyway another woeful result, roll on next week...

I couldn't care less what you say, people that use terms like retarded to insult others are among the lowest of the low. You're an embarrassing excuse of a human being using terms like that.

Aye true enough tbh. This lot look shells of the players they looked like when they first come to us.

Quality of you to keep using a derogatory term for a group of people that cannot defend themselves like, what a horrible person you are.

That is absolutely terrifying, was it '07 or '08 he bought us? So around 6 season and he's paid for 3 strikers 2 of which were never premiership quality and the other one looks clueless now. What gets me is he mustn't think we're going to get ripped off in the summer, but he's created a situation where Cisse is our only striker and everyone in football knows he's been out of form for 18 month now. If he uses the "we won't get ripped off" hardball shite again we'll be rivaling the mackems low points tally.

Agreed, Eliot has been class today feel sorry for the lad tbh. We should just start playing these 16 year olds we keep being told are class because there is no point whatsoever playing these sacks anymore.

10 out the last 14 we haven't scored in apparently, if that's true it's absolutely shocking.

Santon swanning back there ffs. This lot are a total disgrace. 7 goals conceded in 2 games and none scored fucking shocking.

Can't be too hard to convice him mind, he did think Kinnear had any clue what he was talking about.

Aye we get howkings more often than the teams that will go down this year.

Will Santon fucking mark someone. So Pardew managed this lot for a while and never thought to try and bring in a lad like Lallana? I know he may have chose to stay loyal with Southampton but surely Pardew noticed the lad was a good talent and would have given it a go.

"There's no easy games in the Premiership" Brilliant this, Dummett on for Sissoko ffs what are we doing man? Should just take everyone off and leave Eliot out there.