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Ive got it deaders, I think its fine similar to GTA 5 graphics really. I've never played on PS4 and dont have a good pc for gaming so I'm used to the ps3 graphics. Im sure if one of the lads used to the ps4 saw it they'd think it looked shite but I think it looks fine. The only real downside I've noticed is the draw distance, it makes the car chases a pain at times as you can't see too far ahead for the hackable things.

Just had seen others putting it.

I remember reading in an article a while back that Taylor is one of the highest paid at the club which probably puts him on around 40-50k a week, meanwhile we're actively trying to offload M'Biwa.

"and so I says to 'im caam on you frog caaaht, £7,000,001 hows that grab yaa? and he goes we wants £12m, I goes £12m caaam off it you wonky caaahnt your aavin a bubble bath if you think ahhm aaaavin that, hope your talking them francs on that 12 miww and not quid, who you fink we are, we're not faaackin norfaamtaaahn taaahn we don't aaav that wonga. Goin to put in a offaaa of £7,000,002 and he'll be all owwwvaaa it"

Aye, and I'm canny sure Montpellier aren't exactly big fans of the way they conduct themselves after the M'biwa deal. What a shambles man.

I honestly don't know what they expect. They've put us in a position where we're desperate for players, other clubs know we're desperate for players and are then surprised people keep wanting more money for their players.

Obviously Obertan and Marveaux wont be misses, Ben Arfa while sad is to be expected with the way Pardew has been treating him. I'm mostly bothered by them wanting rid of M'Biwa, the lads barely been given a chance and there's obviously talent there, I always saw him as the long term solution to Colo as our ball playing centre half. Again our transfer policies are confusing if this is true, the bloke hasn't played many games and a lot of them have been out of position, his value will have surely decreased. Thinking about my point yesterday, I think I was trying to say I'd like to see us chase players that would fit Pardew's system better rather than just talented players in general, I've no real clue what the blokes system is as it's a bit of a mess but whatever it is if we're sticking with him those should be the type of players targeted. The more talented the better obviously but we should aim for talents that fit in more with Pardew's style. This M'biwa mess is an example, obviously a talented lad but Pardew has no clue how to use him properly, he clearly prefers a Williamson type which makes it all the more frustrating we didn't chase Douglas who by all accounts is that sort of player but obviously better than Williamson. Again all hypothetical but it just worries me that we're sticking with this bloke and targeting anyone that looks like they may go on to be a talented player and increase in value regardless of the system they fit best.

I guess they're not, but they need help and coaching to get comfortable in this league which Pardew and his staff haven't really provided. Maybe they wouldn't be as effective as Sissoko at his best no, but they'd possiblly keep a more consistent standard due to comfort in the league and Pardew being more receptive to them. You're right though it's all hypothetical tbh, I'm more worried about the links with players like Perez really as I really have zero confidence in Pardew bringing through a 20 year old Spanish lad. Agreed on the discussion and that's my bad for starting it, I'm just so disillusioned by Pardew tbh. I just was on a bit of a thought process that perhaps if we aimed to buy more players that would suit Pardews 'style' (whatever that is) we could be more effective then we were in the 2nd half of last season. I'm probably wrong but I just worry that buying these talented 'on the deck' lads is a bit of a waste as they clearly don't suit his style or seem to like him much (a leap I know but just going off Debuchy's supposed comments and some of their body language), and perhaps it would be better bringing in the type of player Pardew is more used too. I think I'm just bored with us at the moment tbh Aimaad, I used to like the quiet style we went about business but it's just boring nowadays, especially as we fear a lack of signings thanks the the previous 3 windows.

Aye that's exactly what I'm saying. We had 33 points when we played Cardiff at the beginning of January and more by the end of January, Norwich had 33 so we'd have been safe with our points tally by January. I've already said Cabaye is a separate point, if we could bring in lads like Cabaye and Debuchy who are basically finished products then of course they'd work well. I'm just meaning that these developmental players we look at are pointless, as Pardew can't develop them. Sissoko is clearly a talent, we've seen it on numerous occasions but he's not kicking on because Pardew is playing him on the wing and dicking him about. I get your point about rather have good players who are badly coached, but the problem is you get bad situations that develop like we're seeing now with Debuchy having a bit moan about Pardew and players looking despondent and frustrated and playing far below their level. My point is a bit unclear and I apologise because I don't know the solution, I'm not some nationalist nutjob who wants English players over these bloody foreigners I just feel they suit Pardew more and he is able to better work with them. On the balance of the 2nd half of the season it's fair to say we're a risk for relegation, I don't think having a Colback is a bad thing at all, the lad is a decent midfielder. I know he's not what we all want to watch but I just think Pardew will get more out of him then he's capable of getting out of an Anita, Anita may have more ability and a brighter future in the game but Pardew can't do much with it. Of course I'd rather watch lads like Sissoko and Anita, but the thing is we're not getting the performances out of them often enough. The blame predominantly lies with Pardew and I'm just meaning these more developmental sort of players are pointless to bring in under this nob. If we can get a Cabaye or a Debuchy, then bring him in for sure I love watching those lads play, but unfortunately we can't develop players and it's a waste of time for them and us to bring them to the club. We're better off buying average premier league players than buying those developing players.

What would have changed? we were safe from January in all reality, and it's not like Cisse scored many goals last season. We can keep buying players like that and having their performances decrease over time after an initial period of good play but it's not exactly sustainable is it? He'd get more out of lads like Colback, I'm not trying to completely ditch buying talented players, and if you are reading my posts as an attack on those type of players it's not. I can just see the point in bringing in types of players like Colback. He's a massive improvement on shite like Gosling, he'd play well under Pardew imo the same as Perch played at a good level. I want nothing more than to watch players like Cabaye, Debuchy, Sissoko etc playing for Newcastle and playing in a system that suits them but that's not happening under Pardew. Eventually it does become a waste buying them under this bloke, as they're not appreciating in value or getting better, only really Cabaye has done that, Debuchy possibly but he seems to have more just maintained and proven that he can do it in a better league than improved much. Edit: And in what way am I saying someone like Noble would be better then Cabaye? Cabaye is class, he's going to be a rarity under Pardew not the norm. He'd get more out of Noble then he gets out of Anita or Sissoko, again not because Noble is better then either but because Pardew cannot coach them and doesn't have good enough tactical knowledge to make use of Anita and Sissoko's talents.

Well obviously I'd rather we replaced the shit English manager. I'd far rather us go round signing players like Cabaye, Debuchy and Sissoko. To be honest I just want rid of Pardew, I'm not bothered who we sign as long as he's manager tbh. I can just sort of see the argument for getting players like Colback in, as Pardew handles players like him better than the more cultured players we've been trying to sign, as well as the fact the squad is so pathetically thin. I just still don't understand our policies tbh, we aim to sign these lads who are very capable of playing good, attractive football and keep this lower division dinosaur of a manager. Think it was Andrew who said it in another thread but missing out on signing Rudi Garcia was a fuck up, a manager like him could really bring the players we've aimed to sign together, at the moment under Pardew it's a waste of time buying these players especially as we now seem to be sticking with this tosser.

English cloggers are what Pardew seems to manage best mind, like Perch, R. Taylor etc, he always seems to get a little more out of them than expected. Although that theory comes unstuck with players like Gosling, but I think he's just total dogshit and should be plying his trade at the bottom of the championship. He can't hack coaching talented players, he's shown it time and time again throughout his career, like with Reo-Coker and Carlton Cole being played over Mascherano and Tevez, the regressions of players like Ben Arfa, Gouffran and Sissoko. So really what I'm saying is if we're stuck with Pardew maybe we are just better off getting players like Colback instead of Sissoko's, even though Sissoko has far more ability and potential Pardew is incapable of motivating/coaching it. What a fun few seasons we have ahead...

Cheers MT, had a feeling the depth would be scaled down as well as the graphics. Not too arsed about the graphics since I've never played any of the next gen stuff yet anyway but I might just hold off until I get a PS4 for the density of the map.

Cheers Tom, figured you were like as I remember you mentioning you had one.

You got the PS4 version Tom? I'm still on the PS3 as I've not got the money for a PS4 at the minute, was wondering if it's worth getting on the PS3 or if it would be just better to wait until I eventually get a next gen console. I've not been able to find too much about the differences, obviously I know it will have better graphics on next gen but I'm more concerned with how populated the city still is on PS3 and that sort of thing.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S5, I had an iPhone 4s before this and it has taken a bit of getting used too but I really like it now. The HTC One looks really nice in all.

Quite frankly it doesn't change my opinion of him either way, he's a total piece of shit and I want rid of him from the club. Not bothered that he's a symptom and not the source, I'm sick of him and bored to death of the "football" he makes the side play.

Signed a 5 year deal with them today according to BBC. Bollocks.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27579306 Spurs close to getting Pochettino according to that. Would be a really good appointment for them.

Aye, thought he'd be around a long time like, seemed to be a canny enough Championship goalscorer but he's completely dropped off the last few year. Obviously it's because of his disastrous personal life.

Chopra should have just kept working in Minty's shop tbh, the lad's a total fucking mess now.

Watched this last night in all funnily enough. Thought it was class, the hand holding rather than kissing or owt , a really cleverly done film.

Agreed he's class.

He was world class on the training pitch.

Aye Aziz and John Ralphio need to be in it more. Hasn't been as good since Rob Lowe and Rashida Jones left tbh.