Howay

Monumental kicking by HF here, cracking response.

Class as always HMHM and that tweet is brilliant too, what a fucking knacker this bloke is.

Aye I suppose, did win a trophy, albeit against poor opposition but he got there I suppose. I don't think he's amazing by any stretch just better than Pardew.

Aye I prefer McClaren over Di Matteo for sure, ignore the England stuff as International football is a very different type of management and McClaren has a canny record. I also think Laudrup has very little chance of happening and if it does a walk out putting Carver back in charge would be very likely, meaning fuck that.

But he was probably their best player or at least one of their best, like I said he does deserve blame as all the members of the squad do but definitely no more than the others. They conceded 53 goals which isn't exactly very good defensively, Newcastle conceded 10 more than them but we scored a lot more and our top scorer also got 11. As Andrew has just said I think it's overly simplistic to say he was mostly the lone man up top so he deserves most the blame, he did his job admirably scoring basically 40% of their goals which is a heavy burden. The rest of the squad simply weren't pitching in with their fair share. Players go through patches and his form didn't stay consistent but he's also 22 years old and was in his first Premier League season, I don't think it's fair to attribute him as having more blame than others tbh. They went down as a squad of 25 players, a squad that simply wasn't good enough. He played alongside Vokes last season and the two of them were very successful, Vokes was injured and missed a lot of this season and never settled into Premier League football afterwards as the team was already fighting relegation, so it was a 22 year old lad, in his first Premier League season, playing up top alone when he was used to playing in a two, at the head of a team that was basically the same side they had in the Championship. They were predicted to come bottom by most pundits, which shows how poor their squad was seen to be. I don't feel like he is largely to blame at all and sure Dyche will have quotes saying he wishes they took their chances but most clubs can say that, I'm sure Pellegrini said that a couple of times this year and they had the league top scorer up front.

I've been insulting Krul's choice of hair style on here his entire career and he is yet to change it, he doesn't take notice of internet forums.

Aye I do think it'll be McClaren tbh, we already know they have shown interest in him and they were seemingly willing to pay the compo, now with no compo to pay I think he's their man.

This argument is really about if Danny Ings is the major reason for Burnley's relegation or not? Of course he's fucking not. The only players that outscored him were: Aguero, Kane, Costa, Austin, Sanchez, Berahino, Giroud, Hazard, Benteke, Pelle, Rooney and Silva. As far as chances being created they weren't all falling to Ings, by December the player who had taken the 2nd most shots in the Premier League without a goal was Ings teammate and fellow striker Lucas Jutkiewicz with 31 (Balotelli was above him with 45), a player they brought in after getting into the Premier League and he ended the season with no goals from 25 appearances. Burnley didn't have enough quality throughout the side, that's why they went down. Austin scored 18 goals and his team still went down so is he to blame for his side going down and be punished from joining a Premier League side? Ulloa was Leicester's top scorer, with 11 goals, his side stayed up because their team scored more in general than Burnley, they had more quality throughout the side. Leicester scored 46 goals in total, Burnley scored 28 meaning Ings scored about 39% of his sides goals, Ulloa scored 23% of his. Ings isn't a massive superstar, they bought him for under a million quid I'd say they got a great return from the lad, scoring 21 goals in their promotion season and more than his fair share of goals in the Premier League. It's not solely down to him. Does he deserve some blame? of course, every member of the side deserves some blame as it was a joint effort but to want to block the bloke from moving to another Premier League side because you think he is solely to blame for a 25 man squad being relegated isn't a fair assessment of the lad. FWIW I think Ings has potential, he's 22 and managed a good return in this league, I just hope he moves to a club where he plays.

He'd probably be one that Ashley likes, especially without having to pay any compo. I flat out cannot see Carver being appointed, I understand Ashley loves the cheapest option but I think that emotion he showed during the final game was a man nervous about his investment losing money, a substantial amount of money. Appointing Carver will guarantee the clubs relegation next year, his run (which was the best part of half a season) was worse than you could have predicted really, Ashley's not an idiot, a cunt yes but not an idiot and appointing Carver would simply endanger future profit. I'm not saying Ashley will suddenly go out and start spunking money on players and a top coach, but he'll get a capable football manager in. It will probably be a one he can get on a low wage and for no compo but it'll be a football manager. If he was really willing to put anyone in charge that happened to be the cheapest he could just go to a dole queue and pick a random bloke from that every week and I don't think the results would be all that different from what Carver managed.

Aye I enjoyed it too, I thought Hoult was very good in it.

Seems a bit odd and hard to believe that he suddenly wants the club to start trying after 8 years. Maybe he finally wants some enjoyment out of his investment, maybe it could be because he has seen his previous policies putting the club in serious risk of falling off the gravy train and sees that a little more investment is needed or maybe it's all complete and utter bullshit, the fact is action has to be taken hopefully more than the minimum is or we'll just see this season play out again in a year or two. I'll believe it when it happens as Ashley has burnt us all far too many times with his complete bullshit. Edit: I also hope this means they pack in trying to move Cisse on.

Better than hearing Pardews normal voice mind. I'm just glad Allardyce has already been here or I'd fear he would be in the running.

Laudrup getting linked now: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/11628133/West-Ham-and-Newcastle-could-offer-Michael-Laudrup-route-back-into-the-Premier-League.html Obviously McClaren is surely favorite now after getting the sack. Laudrup plays a canny brand of football but I doubt he'd get on well with Ashley. Carvs wants it but I can't imagine anyone wants him to have it. Clement's a bit of a wild card but he's undoubtedly a talented coach. I'd like to see Clement tbh as he's an unknown quantity in the top job so it would be an interesting appointment, I wouldn't have any grumbles with McClaren as he's a step up from Pardew for me, Carver can fuck right off and I just can't see Laudrup getting along with Ashley.

Aye, he'll be our next manager tbh Ashley has got the man he wanted without having to pay the 2m compo I don't think he'd be fussed about the earlier rejection. Edit: I wouldn't put it past Ashley if the whole earlier rejection wasn't a bit of a set up as this way Ashley pays no compo, McLaren gets a payoff and then McLaren comes here. Not entirely unlikely iyam.

Glad the nappy rippers stay down there for at least another year.

Aye I think he'd have set his sights on getting us up before he had any intention of selling again, so we'd be in basically the position we are now minus the year (or years) in the Championship. You have to find some enjoyment from somewhere Mako otherwise what's the point? People enjoyed Jonas' winner, the fact we're staying in the Premier League and that we finished above the mackems (much to their irritation), aye it's probably about the best we can hope for because this fat cunt owner has done his best to ruin the fun of supporting the club for everyone but if I found no enjoyment from yesterday (like I'm assuming you didn't) then why bother? We just have to hope that we see some level of investment during the summer and a capable bloke put in charge that will have the side playing somewhat enjoyable football, then we can hope (and perhaps take action) Ashley will sell and as Straight Edge has said the best chance of that is probably via the Premier League, he'd not even recoup his buying price in the Championship let alone get a profit (like he will probably want) so he wouldn't have bothered until we were back at the top table.

Aye, the bloke's a monumental mug but he loves the club. He shouldn't be throwing his hat in the ring or any of that bollocks, he should just slide back to a coaching position and be glad that they'd keep him, I'd actually start to question his support of the club if he can actually look at the pathetic job he has done given half a season and honestly say to himself that he is the man to move the club forward.

I'd love to see him given a 1-2 year deal, he's a fantastic pro and is clearly a good influence. He's also a decent premier league squad player who can cover the entirity of midfield as well as fill in at full back, much better option then a lot of the shite we have behind the starting players.

What a prick, continuity only works if the bloke in charge is talented otherwise why wouldn't every club just appoint some random and keep them around for ten year? Ridiculous statement from a ridiculous man.

Kept us up AND got us two places in the league higher on the last day of the season, Charnley now thinking he might be able to avoid making a decision and just hope no one notices.

They can look forward to being the bottom dogs if Boro come up.

Thank fuck for that.

Fair play, pulled their fingers out for the second half. Could have had four goals with the chances we've had so can't fault them for that, Jonas has been great today.

Aye fucking cracking, chuffed for him. He's given everything today and probably just guaranteed safety.