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I don't think it would, we already tried in the summer and didn't get him. Was more just thinking it would be hilarious especially given all the fucking whiners already crying that we're buying the league and it's so unfair.

Knockaert especially would be great, would take probably the best player away from the team closest to us as well as bringing in a lad who I think would do well in the PL with the experience he has been getting.

Well at least we know he has no future in acting.

Well then they should stop bringing up their high places in the PL, they spent so much fucking money it crippled their club whereas we've spent money generated by player sales. We made what? 55m from two players who cost 16m or so, we're perfectly within our rights to spend that money, in fact we didn't even spend all of it. It's an award for the best manager of the month, he has been the best manager. Villa spent similar to us and they're shite, it's not just about buying a bunch of players and hoying them on the pitch, we're often playing 2 games a week and winning both. They can all stop saying the Championship is a tough league then. The Leeds fans are bitter because they're fucking irrelevant tramps, have absolute no time for them whatsoever. They all probably started bothering again recently when it looked like they might make a push and t'Rhino's have been doing worse than usual in recent years, bunch of fucking yokels. I echo Tom's sentiment, I hope we go out and buy a bunch of PL level players for a fucking fortune in January. Is that lad with the broken leg or whatever it was joining us? I can't remember if we ever actually agreed his transfer.

Aye it's fucking hilarious, I've always said we'd kill this league and the mackems jumped all over people like me saying we are deluded etc, now as you say they're acting like it was some inevitability all along despite the fact some of them were saying utterly preposterous stuff like "they're more likely to drop again" a few month ago. It's a stupid argument overall tbh, if that was the case then people that manage teams like Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea etc shouldn't ever win Manager of the month awards either, we actually made a profit on player sales in the summer if we want to get pedantic so they can all whistle. Rafa's class, the toon are class and it's great that these twats are trying to palm it all off now, I hope we carry on battering the utter fucking shite that makes up this league.

It's a real wait and see as I don't think anyone has any idea what he really thinks like you say. Some of his 100 day plan is actually quite good, things like term limits for Congressmen and a 5 year ban on joining lobbying groups after they've served their time in the houses, he has also said he's going to call out China for currency manipulation and more aggressively pursue foreign trade infractions that put US people at a disadvantage. The calming of tensions with Russia is also a plus. It then starts to get a bit worrying mind, he then talks about how he plans to pull all US funding from the UN climate change funds, get rid of the blocks Obama put up against some of the Oil pipelines, basically anything to do with climate change he is taking the opposite stance on, he plans to attempt to overturn Roe v Wade, overturn Obamacare which puts about 23m out of medical care (I know Obamacare is a mess but it does have its pluses and he hasn't really come up with a proper alternative), and finally the wall is still actually coming up which I am shocked by as he calmed down about it, I'm not sure if he's just saying it knowing he has to and the House will reject it (people like McConnell have already said there's no way they'd vote for it) or if he genuinely thinks spunking billions on a wall would do anything other than offend Mexico. Oh his stuff about channeling money towards infrastructure is a good thing as well as the bridges and roads are a real mess over here, so as I say there are some positives as there are with anyone that gets this far but some of the stuff he's put in that 100 day plan is concerning. Oh aye and the Supreme court could look a bit scary in a few month.

Really good post Meenzer. I think in things like this it's easy for people to blow it out of hand and say "the whole country is fucking racist" as I've seen on facebook this morning but the majority of people that voted Trump did so because he's Republican and they always vote Republican. They're saying he got more of the Black vote and Latino vote than Romney did 4 years ago, so it's things like that that have contributed to his win. Clinton took things for granted, she ignored Wisconsin since the Primary as it's been a Democrat state for the last few elections, meanwhile Trump kept going there even though his campaign team said it was pointless, he won it. She managed it like a politician and he didn't, he tried to win every little thing and in the end those little things paid off as these things are won by small margins.

Fucking hell it actually happened, lots of pussy grabbing all round today. They're saying the people that it probably mattered most to didn't really get out and vote for her but I don't think it's that simple, this is a woman that lost to a major outsider in Obama, she was pushed close by another outsider in Sanders and now has lost to yet another major outsider in Trump, this is the fault of the DNC for constantly trying to force her into presidency. The media are already trying to spin this btw, there's a bloke on CNN saying he could be the next Teddy Roosevelt where was that voice 2 days ago when a Trump win meant Armageddon? For what it's worth he'll be absolutely fuck all like we've seen in regards to his offensiveness and brashness imo. It's all part of this sweeping tide of people being tired of the 'establishment', I have a lass on facebook who wrote some insane rant about how "if you're a white, cis, straight, especially a male person, this election isn't for you" then followed about 4 paragraphs of shite like that and I said to my wife at the time it's nonsense like that that fire this people who vote for Trump up, she said it doesn't matter as most people would just shrug that off but I don't think they do, I think a lot of people are tired of hearing stuff like that, it's this backlash of people who have been told that it's not about them anymore. I'm not part of it of course but I have actually been frustrated by someone else putting down any fear or difficulty I have by saying something along the line of "oh it must be hard being a straight, white, male" etc, while that's a minor irritation to me and I can accept that it's just that person trying to be funny there are a lot of people out there that are clearly tired of it.

That's the minimum according to the BBC.

:lol: Shame if we have to lose him like as he's been in good form. Like people said earlier I'd play Diame in his absence and see what he does with a run at CM.

No bother Noelie. Mitrovic starts up top with Perez playing off him.

I will do if/when I find one Noelie mate. Here you go: 1st half: http://mixlr.com/rarestpepe/ 2nd half: http://mixlr.com/rarestpepe1/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/sports/soccer/sunderland-premier-league-brexit.html?action=click&contentCollection=sports&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0 They're all buzzing they're in the NY Times, the photos do a cracking job of making Sunderland look as much of a tip as it is in real life and the article also paints a suitably depressing picture of the place .

. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sunderlands-david-moyes-hopes-inspiring-9190867 How fucking desperate is big eyes that this is what he's resorting too?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37872020 FIFA are a fucking joke like, so that came up in the poppy discussion so they're going to go and punish Ireland 8 months later? Fucking disgraceful organization.

I love that they're using it to have a pop at us, they deserve the absolute shit show that they are being served up. Keep turning up for the free tickets, keep just getting grumpy and leaving after your lot concede the 3rd goal why the fuck will Short be pressured to do anything if the fans are happy to sit on their hands simply to point score against us? If they want to attribute Pardew being out to us protesting (I don't but they have used that to point score) then you can thank that for us having a manager of Benitez's caliber.

I forgot he said that, what a nob.

Having Steve McClaren for over three quarters of the season is what relegated us, if we stood any chance of staying up Rafa should have had from the January window or at the very least that two week break after Chelsea demolished us. The fact Rafa got that train wreck to within 1 point of staying up isn't something they should keep bringing up.

Imagine getting the opportunity to negotiate a deal with McClaren and Charnley, I'm surprised the clause was as high as it was.

I think that's fair, I think a drop and rebuilding is probably the absolute best thing that they can hope for now, they could financially blow up as they're that much of a fucking mess. I'd love to see them do a double drop and stay in the lower leagues, it's something they stupidly thought would happen to us but I think it's far more likely to happen to them. I think the best case scenario for us would be if they kept big eyes and then sacked him when they got relegated, imagine the fucking clip of managerial candidates they would attract? a newly relegated team, shit squad, no morale or fight in the squad, and no fucking money to buy players, oh aye and you have to sell the dirge you have just to level the books let alone to buy players Has Paul Jewell got a club?

Their squad is also fucking tragic, we at least knew we had some half decent players in it to build upon. Imagine a 35 year old Defoe in the Championship, he'd either retire or be injured every game I just can't see him being arsed, the mackems are already getting on his back for not bothering now. I agree with what SEW was saying, they'd have to rebuild and it'd take them a few seasons down there tbh. The problem with this league is the longer you're down here the harder it is to get back up as obviously the players you attract become Championship level rather than those lower prem types.

The worst bit about this whole poppy argument is that it reminds us all that International football is back soon.