Howay

Team of players who pass it back to who passed to them without Shelvey in the side.

Sick to the back teeth of watching Colback, Anita, and Dummett, utter dross the 3 of them.

Agreed. Gayle is just getting shoved about here, no presence at all in this one and since the ref is giving him fuck all it's not going to work. We look so flat without Shelvey.

Feel for Darlow he's the only one that has shown up today.

Utter utter shit. Can we take Anita off? That's 3 major attacks coming down that twats side.

Desperate for an upset man, it's pathetic. Genuinely think it'll end 0-0 here, the ref is perfectly willing to allow them to just drag down our players anytime we counter, basically anytime we broke away around the halfway line it was foul, free kick, and he spent more time telling Lascelles off for him having a pop at the ref than speaking to the Wednesday 'players'. Tired of this division like, the refereeing is tragic. This is much more what I expected to see in terms of opposition though, dirty, talentless, teams coming to spoil and injure.

It was clear as day, the commentator goes "maybe they did pull on his shirt a little", aye they pulled on his shirt to begin with then the bloke had both his arms wrapped round Gayle's neck while the 2nd Wednesday player pulled his shirt

Another week another shite ref. Utter hatchet job on Gayle by the talentless Wednesday lot and the ref is just letting them crack on. That Pudil should have been off for that little elbow on Ritchie. Forestieri is a right dirty little bastard and should have been booked for his high foot and on high risk of being sent off for accumulation of fouls.

I prefer to see Yedlin over Anita, Anita has been playing fine I just think Yedlin does more going forward and links up better with Ritchie.

Aye, they looked fairly comfortable today even though Bournemouth played quite well and they were missing Kante and Costa.

What a fucking SCRUFF

Decided to finally get this, it seems a fair improvement to me over FM16 and is a lot quicker on my laptop than 16 was. I have noticed though that anytime I go to buy a player the computer puts on a % of next transfer clause every time and I can't get it off, all I can do is lower it and sometimes the lowest it goes is 30%. Is anyone else having this? I've been having the usual problem of the computer being unrealistic with me, like Madrid asking for 49m for a player that is unhappy and hasn't made a single appearance for them by January, but then they also want 40% of next transfer fee on top .

They may well have but I don't think it's a stretch to assume Shelvey is a bit thick and fucked it up.

Yeah seems like Gayle said Shelvey reacted to Saiss waving his hand to get him booked then Shelvey said he didn't notice or something. I still think it's a bit much banning someone on the evidence of 3 opposition players.

Honestly every time that fat cunt goes somewhere there's an article declaring he's right for the club. He isn't, it'll be some of the worst football they've ever seen and eventually he'll get the sack with a massive pay off.

So it seems the only evidence really was 3 Wolves players saying he made reference to Saiss as an "arab", "arabic" and/or "Morrocan" with an expletive in there somewhere, not exactly compelling iyam, "In addition the panel said the evidence of the three main witnesses from Wolves was "clearly to be preferred" " it just seems a bit fucking soft to me to ban a bloke for 5 games when the only evidence is 3 players from the opposition saying he did it. Nowt can be done now anyway since Shelvey isn't appealing (I agree with him even if he didn't say what is accused as there's no way they'd overturn it if they were willing to ban him on that sort of evidence), at least it means he's available for Brighton.

I'd have any of the ones rumoured at Newcastle, I'd rather we signed one and then had them bed in the side for 6 month so they were settled when we went up as there's no chance Chelsea would let us sign Loftus-Cheek from them. It would be class to sign one of the CM's mentioned as it'd be one area we'd not be worrying about after promotion.

He's quality like. I can't see us going for him, nor him coming (although stranger things have happened), but he would be fucking quality. The major upside to this is we might be able to convince Delph while teams chase Schneiderlin...

Fully agree, I can't help but feel it's the pull of that Parrish and maybe Jordan (I've no idea of that orange pricks pull anymore) that want English managers. As you say they're a non-entity to us but they're a PL side and to foreign coaches (and people in football in general really, look at Townsend) that's all that matters, they'd get paid a wedge and be in London. It's simply bad ownership tbh, I saw a thing about them on tv a while back which was clearly intended to show how mint they were but they started filming when the wheels were coming off but in it Jordan was essentially saying very similar stuff to the Geordie nation stuff we get pulled to bits for and that's a big reason they went for Pardew and I think it's what keeps them getting British managers: Allardyce, Pardew, Warnock, Pulis, Holloway etc.

Shaka's accent always makes me laugh, the odd word is clearly in a Geordie accent . The thing with Pardew is he's just not a good manager but he has the arrogance of a Mourinho/Guardiola level of manager (he's definitely more obnoxious about it but I'm more meaning in terms of self regard than how he conducts himself), it's fine if you're their level to act like that because you're successful and I think when you're at that level you need to have a lot of self confidence in order to manage players like Messi, De Bruyne, Cole, etc. He's probably a Championship standard manager which is where he'd be if he wasn't English but because he's English he's often given a pass and they have short term memory when it comes to his previous failings (until it suits them to point it out, normally as he's on the verge of sacking). NJS is spot on about how disgraceful it is that the media are pretty much silent in regards to Allardyce just walking back into a PL job after being found to be a corrupt cunt, that is the sort of shite that English managers get away with and is why we were left getting slagged to bits after Pardew left. Look at the squad he had for Southampton and the bloke couldn't get them out of League one Puncheon, Lambert, Jose Fonte, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Michail Antonio, I know they were a lot younger but howay man a half decent manager would get a team with that lot higher than 7th in League one. I've little doubt some daft shites will appoint him as manager soon.

But they don't have the money to pay the fee, or at least that's what their executive said. An £8m fee plus £90k a week for 6 month is a lot of money for a club that has nowt, I'm not convinced Delph would be the sort of target they'd risk going broke for.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

He's cost Palace a fucking fortune when you add the compensation they paid us to the contract they've had to pay up on when they've sacked him (no way he walked away). Oh aye also we fucking told you so Palace fans.

They have no money though.

It says a lot about that place that I'm not surprised they're getting onto their high horse over a bloke who has supposedly said something racist despite the fact that in very recent memory they actually chanted 'he shags who he wants' about a bloke who was under trial for sexual conduct with a minor (they can wave the 'innocent until proven guilty' flag all they want that is still seriously fucked up) and had fans who racially abused a players mother to the point he transferred away. I say supposedly as we don't really know what was said, but even if we assume it was horrific they still have no right whatsoever to claim any moral high ground here ffs.