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I also find it ridiculous that he keeps hinting at the Democrats blocking him, or at least slowing things down, to the whooping and cheering of the (Republican) crowd. I assume it's completely lost on them that they've just got out of 6-8 years of blockading anything Obama wanted to do, arseholes.

He does get the best deals though.

I think he was aye, it was something along the lines that Milners sale was dependent on them bringing in Schweinstieger and/or Lennon iirc (or that after the sale KK was promised them) and then Milner got sold and KK wasn't allowed either of them which was the beginning of the end of his tenure.

Aye, it's acceleration rather than holding your top end pace that matters more in football. It's a shame he never really got many chances at CM for us but I suppose we had decent CM's for a good portion of his time at Newcastle.

That would definitely make more sense. I'm only going off an argument I had with a Boro supporter about Milners pace (no idea how we ended up on that topic ) where he just kept claiming Milner was some county sprint champion, I never really bothered checking as I'd seen Milner's lack of pace in person.

Aye, I don't think he ever really had the pace to be a top winger. People always say he was a sprinter when he was younger to say he's quick, but I always thought he'd have to beat his man two or three times before he got his cross in for us (think he was one of them that really slowed down with the ball at his feet). Has a canny range of passing though which is what helped him as a CM. I think Milner gets a rough ride off people because he's an ugly cunt from Yorkshire and looks like a cartoon football player from the 1950's. He's more athletic than he looks and as others have said he has a very professional attitude. I didn't think he was class when he was at Newcastle but it's worth remembering he was only 23 or something when he left and he has definitely improved due to his hard work and the coaching he has received. He also doesn't hide which is always a plus and will put in a shift wherever he is asked to play.

Aye, I'm going to have to pay more for avocados so he can build his stupid fucking wall. What is great about that? Cheaper guacamole would be great, not having to pay more for it. His hair absolutely does look like the lid of a bog in all . I feel bad now as I went round consoling people when he won telling them it wont be bad and that he doesn't actually give a shit about these things, spectacularly wrong on that one . It's going to be a rough four years y'know.

:lol: I was just going to say is he still available, surprised Moyes didn't get him on the phone.

Especially as Liam Ridgewell is probably the best defender in the league. How the fuck did Taylor not even manage to look okay. I think he scored an own goal or got sent off on his debut as well the fucking plank.

The MLS is total dogshit, he's up against defenders that make less than some League two players (iirc a CB that he played on the same team as was getting the league minimum which is around $50k a year or something). He was also in one of the better sides in the League, he'd be lucky to get 3 touches per game at the mackems. I agree though as I think it's a massive ask to improve in this window with 14m. They've also lost their 2nd best goal scoring threat ( ).

I stand corrected then. I had no idea he'd dropped off that much. As I say he'd really be back up to Defoe anyway, unless of course Moyes wanted to play two forwards that are closer to middle-age than their prime in a side that struggles to touch the ball.

Think that's pretty accurate, I'd agree on Borini (unless he means make a profit on those players?). I think the issue is what you highlighted in that would it really improve them, there's no good just having bodies in the door if you are losing 'quality'. If they got Keane I still don't see them playing 2 up top, I don't think Gibson in anyway improves who they have in CM. Jagielka is probably only going to be a really short term fix to cover suspensions etc as I'm not all that convinced he's a great deal better than what they already have (at 34 anyway).

That's much more the type of shite I'd expect them to buy. As I say this has probably caught them off guard a little and Moyes has probably been scouting knowing he had nowt to spend. Out of that lot Jagielka and Keane would probably be good, but as you short term, fixes, Keane is old but his movement is his strength and he'd get them goals but he'd cost a bomb in wages. That Gibson lad is a bit shit isn't he? So aye I'd expect them to get a player like that, was also at Everton when Moyes was there iirc. I hope you're right that it wont be enough as I think they thoroughly deserve relegation after a decade of doing nowt but staving it off.

I think whatever way you look at it it's a shit example of management. It's just cashing in on a player at the risk of the club tbh. They've sold one of their better players to a direct rival for survival in the last 5 days of a notoriously seller friendly transfer window. They'd argue he's only a left back and if they can bring in someone on loan like NJS is on about, who may be better defensively, then they could get McCarthy on loan (maybe pay a fee), and someone like Barrow (5m rumoured release clause) they might come out of it stronger. The issue is they've still allowed a rival to strengthen.

I don't think it was a choice out of 14m or PL survival like Defoe was. They probably see it as 14m that they would never had got in the summer so have cashed in because they're knackered. I can't see how it's anything but desperate cashing in, they've sold one of their better players to one of their closest rivals for survival. As Alex said they're going to get gouged wherever they go, everyone knows they're desperate and that they have 14m to spend (even though it's debatable that Moyes has that full amount).

We'll see but this is a terrible window to buy (the fact PvA cost 14m is further evidence) especially for a club as unattractive as Sunderland. Moyes has also bought badly so far at them, Love, Djilobodji, and McNair were about 14m in a more buyer friendly window iirc. I honestly think they've just sold him because they really need the money. A club that is in such a mess financially can't say no to 14m for a player they paid 2-3m (not sure on that mind) for. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they're caught off guard by this and now have to scramble. It's also worth noting that they now need a LB before they can even go about improving the side.

£1m less than is required to sign an average Championship striker. They'll buy some shite players to pad their shite squad out and prepare for mid table mediocrity in the Championship.

At the end of the day he hasn't won a title yet so...

Exactly, I see there are Liverpool fans moaning about Klopp now as well, the bloke is doing a cracking job imo and he's the sort of manager that takes a while to build a side.

I genuinely don't understand why them or the mackems care. Both teams are fucking shite, that's what matters more than some subjective thing like 'best fans'. I also don't understand why Leeds fans think they should be seen as the best, I spent a fair whack of time there and people generally cared more about Leeds Rhino's. It seems to be fans of sides like the Mackems and Leeds that give a shit about what other fan bases think of them, who gives a fuck? support your side, who gives a toss what Tarquin the Arsenal fan from Hemel Hempstead thinks about your fan base.

Trumps daughter Tiffany as well: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/kellyanne-conway-defends-trump-border-wall-unsubstantiated-voter-fraud-claims-n712411

I hope they come 3rd, then lose to the 6th place team in the play-offs, then come 15th next season. Tramps.

For a bloke that spoke so much about government wasting money he is going to be spending a fair whack on inquiries that have very simple, and known, answers. Between the one you're on about and the inquiry into a link between Autism and vaccines that's money that would be being put to better use if he just hoyed it out of a window. I'm not even sure why this anti-vaccer movement is so driven, even if there was a link (which there absolutely is not, the bloke that linked it was stripped of his medical license back in the 1920's iirc) you have to ask yourself what the cost v gain is. We don't have horrific diseases like Polio in western countries anymore because we have this understanding of vaccines, so if for some impossible reason a small percentage of the population developed autism from it wouldn't that price be worth paying? Obviously we know there is no link whatsoever but it further shows what a fucking waste of time looking into it is when even if a link was found we'd likely carry on administering them unless of course we all want to be riddled with Polio, Mumps, German Measles etc. I honestly think the bloke is going to crack tbh, he is so thin skinned it's almost painful to watch how he clings onto these ridiculously petty things. I mean arguing about fucking crowd sizes when there is completely unbiased evidence that he's simply wrong, why pursue it? who fucking cares? It's as NJS says he's just a spoilt, petulant brat who is used to having everyone just tell him he's right, usually because they want his money or him to lend them a favour. He's now in a position where everything he does is going to have people telling him he is wrong, and he's a moron, I'm not sure how he is going to take that for 4 years.

True that was oscar worthy. When he went to crack the joke ffs.

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