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I was thinking the exact same thing, I feel like that would have been fairly big news the same as the Leeds fans being stabbed in Istanbul.

Agreed, I think another issue we have is that if we were to get Rondon (which we won’t) that’ll come from this £50m, so say he was £16m and they gave him £50k a week for 3 year deal that’s basically £24m of the £50m budget already gone just to stand still.

What a rush, we could potentially finish above the might of Burnley and the titans of Bournemouth as well!

Aye I don’t think anyone here would defend them (well maybe that toonraider2 bloke). It may well be all they have to hand, I just do have my doubts with all the years we’ve had in the PL while penny pinching the entire time (is it like £2m total net spend or something since he took over?) that it’s all the club can afford. I get your point that you just want to be realistic and clear, they’ve muddied the water for this exact reason imo as it’s nigh on impossible to figure it out really (unless you take the accounts as complete truth of course). I also find it extremely weird that they go on about wanting to be financially savvy yet they sell players with payments stretched over years while only opting to pay 100% up front for purchases. Literally the first thing a financial class teaches is time value of money they’re doing basically the opposite of what you should be aiming to do! Of course it’s yet another excuse in their locker as to why we don’t have more at hand to spend.

The way Salah goes down man. No idea what Morrison was thinking mind, it’s well known Salah just hoys himself to ground under contact so why would you grab him like that no wonder these morons are going down.

Does Van Dijk really think that little tuft on his chin looks good? I suppose he is Dutch, Kruls bowl cut was all the rage over there just a few years back.

The Fish jinxed it

Fair enough I get the points. I wasn’t meaning to come across as argumentative this lot just piss me off whenever I think of the bollocks they spout I never thought that £50m net a season wouldn’t be a lot, as you state there aren’t many that spend that. My issue is that the £50m has to include wages so realistically that £50m becomes more like £20m-£25m and comes with further stipulations about what type of player that can be spent on (so youth to sell on). I get the point of the question now, I can’t speak to how much we could afford but I would assume it would be more than £20m-£30m net on fees like they’re really stating. If it was really a straight £50m net on transfers that would be great, but again if it was truthful they wouldn’t state it since it’s always going to fluctuate, you may need an £80m net spend now to get the squad up to speed then you might run a small profit on them the following year, it’s always these big grand gestures with these nob heads that are never followed up on (see ‘the club can spend whatever it generates’). Aye, the wages thing is for sure a way to play around with the accounts and projections.

I think the fact solskjaer comes across as a right bellend makes it better.

The accounts published don’t have to be as accurate and aren’t regulated heavily like public company filings, so I can’t say with this lot running things I believe them to be the clearest, it’s entirely possible Ashley has been siphoning more out the club and labeling it as something else. You can feel free to trust what the club are saying if you want tbh. If you’re happy to accept a PL club in 2019 can afford nothing more than around £20m in transfer fees yearly (since the other £30m they’re quoting will go to wages spread over the next half decade) again that’s totally up to you. As mentioned in the past they always mention wages having to be factored in when buying, yet the remaining wages on a contract of a player sold are never brought up. We’ve never been big spenders under Ashley, even when we finished 5th we didn’t spend, all of that has all been eaten up by two single season stints in the Championship? It’s also worth noting that for his entire 10 year ownership he has asset stripped the club to such a degree it barely owns anything outside of playing staff, as Trooper points out we’ve lost a lot of money in commercial deals. All of that goes into why I am not accepting them saying all we can afford is £50m a season (inclusive of wages, fees and other expenses) I can’t factor these issues out as they are exactly to blame for all of it so why should I have to exclude that from what I think should be available for Rafa to spend? It can be rectified going forward but it won’t be. We are going to lose Rafa Benitez over honesty over transfer fees and a moderate amount of investment in the training facilities, it’s absolutely absurd. I’ll also add that the wage aspect is being double counted in their bullshit model. The money available that they’re claiming comes as a result of the accounts, which factor in wage expense, they then include these future wages back into the £50m budget, and they will be again included when computing the next amount available.

That’s 4 now.

The debt should have been eaten as part of his buying cost, that was his fault for being the type of person he is and not conducting due diligence. Obviously I know that won’t happen, the thing is though iirc Charnley specifically mentions that the £111m ‘loan’ won’t be being recouped as the £33m was (which we owed Ashley because his stupidity resulted in relegation), it’s seen as long term and will be tacked on to any purchase price aka a way to ward off any potential buyers. As as for what should be available, the very fact they’re setting a number shows they’re being nob heads what clubs do that? You base your budget off of needs, forecasts, and current balances. They’re more than happy to figure future expenses into their calculation of budgets but will ignore future income. Aye they are withholding funds over that amount, they just paid Ashley £33m back and iirc they paid him £10m or so somewhat recently as well. I think we brought more money in last season than Leicester from tv rights and were basically tied with Everton for 7th out of the whole league, so aye I absolutely do think they are restricting our transfer funds heavily. If they did hand Rafa £50m plus a percentage of player sales, with the money going to transfer fees as the wage budget should be separate due to the more long term nature of it, that would be fair enough (of course we’d be ignoring the 10 years prior of underfunding) but as I say that isn’t what they’re proposing

The best part is literally everyone was saying this would be the case but they completely ignored it. Who would have thought the players would get sick of a former super sub Norwegian troll banging on the “this isn’t the Manchester United way” drum. I just hope the owners don’t click on that this Woodward doesn’t have a fucking clue what he’s doing.

I absolutely know the reason I was just pointing to the Bournemouth example as further evidence that what they’re saying is utter shite. Iirc KD quoted it as being £33m into Ashley’s pocket, which as you say would buy us a good player, or we could equal our prior record signing twice. I think if you’d have given Rafa a £30m midfielder, or two £15m ones we’d easily be challenging for “best of the rest” and would not have been discussing relegation all year. I agree that paying the Ashley ‘loan’ would be a potential positive but as you say it is wishful, it’ll be added back on at some point in the near future. The issue is the £50m isn’t £50m, it’ll include wages and if you sign one player on £50k a week for 5 year that’s £13m, you also have to add in his agents fee for the transfer and any other bollocks.

Until I hear Bournemouth have fell into a financial problem (while in the PL) it’s impossible for me to give Charnley and Ashley’s utter twaddle about financial restraint even remotely plausible. As zerosum says Bournemouth is a club which struggles for gates basically a third of our average, they’re making nowt compared to NUFC domestically or Internationally through tickets/merchandise. I think a good chunk of their squad cost more than Almiron, and even if you take them out there won’t be many that are as cheap as our usual penny pinching signings. If they can fund all that and be fine then there’s no reason whatsoever NUFC can’t match their spending.

Threads like that sum them up. Fat, cheesy chip covered losers going on about football hooligans. All of it coming from just seeing a few Dutch blokes that had watched the toon game there’s no connection, they probably wanted to see a PL game and we were at home so it’s a pretty easy trip for them. The Feyenoord thing man they then make up a connection between us and Ajax, which exists because Feyenoord like mackems and hate us. Hopefully they keep going with that and we can figure out how every fan base feels about the Tyne Wear rivalry. The odd comment in that thread was the bloke who felt he had to spell out that it goes against the grain to say he felt it was harsh for Feyenoord fans to stab normal Newcastle fans who weren’t looking for bother. If that type of opinion really is going against the grain then that site should just be shut down tbh, yet again that ‘classy’ fan base proving they are scum.

They currently have a thread about how kids will be starting primary school and there hasn’t been a Newcastle win over the tramps in their lifetime. When someone pulled him up saying it’s been 8 years his response was “unless we get back to back promotions it will be though” they can’t honestly think they’re gaining some moral high ground on this as they’re too fucking shite to be in the same league as us.

10 points clear of relegation. What an amazing season it has been. Massive thanks to Charnley and Ashley, just glad our training facilities didn’t cost us points. Dummett had a quality game as well, won nearly every header in the box.

Wijnaldum in 2015 v Norwich apparently, so yonks ago

Get the FUCK in Ayoze, excellent hat trick. Fuck off you bunch of cheating bastards, would be happy to see them go down.

This fucking ref is doing about all he can to help them win the game.

I’d have rather seen Ki go off tbh, unless Hayden is knackered he’s been a lot better than Ki today.

Our lot look fucking half asleep

They’ve absolutely been targeting Almiron all match and this wanker of a ref is doing fuck all about it.

Aye as good as we were first half we’ve been equally as poor second half.