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They’d honestly be better off with thinking FFP will stop the Saudis, the chances that Saudi Arabia are going to buy a club and watch it get howked by one owned by Abu Dhabi, while also being a million miles behind one owned by Qatar is slim to fucking nil. This play by the Bein sports lot has nothing to do with a fear over piracy and everything to do with trying to keep the Saudis out of the top echelons of football imo. That’s before we even mention the clubs they looked into buying before us were Manchester United, Liverpool, and Chelsea apparently. Enjoy a solid decade of “The Don” you bunch of nonce sympathizers.

On the plus side, if the Saudis weren’t motivated to completely dominate before this type of opposition is going to spur them on to smash teams like PSG at some point down the line.

Agreed the PL would likely see it as a better opportunity to get Saudi into the fold and have them paying for rights rather than block the deal on those grounds imo.

Aye, the fact that was said and then they’re still pretending they’re not saying anything about the fans is disgraceful tbh.

That’s going to be brutal for him, it’s basically going to be professional people who know what they’re doing/how things should be run grilling him on why things were done in the shite way they were. Meanwhile Ashley has ran off into the sunset with £300m in his pocket.

It’s all well and good telling us to do this, along with all the fans of other clubs pushing back on Newcastle fans saying things like “well if Burnley got bought by the Saudis that would really test my support of the club” (they’re then all denying any of this is a dig at NUFC fans, even though what’s their message otherwise? They’re clearly implying they look down on those that don’t simply turn their back on NUFC). I look forward to them all stopping watching any tournaments to do with FIFA in future, and to the ones that say that’s no comparison they’re speaking out their arse. His point that basically we’ve been shit for yonks so we may as well sack it off is absolutely pathetic and undermines his entire narrative as well, if this were Manchester United would he have said it’s fine since they have enjoyed watching recently? So his overall answer is NUFC fans just don’t get to support a football club anymore phenomenal that. So how does he square the circle that when this lot start buying players from other clubs their clubs are then taking money from these people and furthering their own clubs ambitions? Or do they then have to stop supporting their clubs as well?

It’s also great to know that we had the full backing of the media when we did attack SD and their practices, so we will all be emboldened to take a stand again.

Agreed. They’re horrible cunts, ones I would want nothing to do with football, but in the same way I don’t want leeching cunts like Ashley involved in football neither. I’d prefer an ownership structure more similar to what we see in Germany, but it’s not going to happen and we are where we are. I look forward to the old guards heads imploding when younger journos/presenters start to refer to us as “United”

I just personally think they’re all being racist.

Delaney now thinks because we are excited to be rid of Ashley and see some investment in we are now going to be “weaponised” by the Saudis to attack anyone who attacks them. The point they continue to miss is that we just don’t want to see the fan base vilified unnecessarily for this. I’m fine with Amnesty writing to the PL, and I do agree with a lot of their points, but it also has to be aimed at society as a whole not just the purchase of NUFC. This drawing weird lines in the sand is the bit that’s not acceptable tbh. There’s also the argument that shutting them out completely does nothing but push them away from the west and into being potentially worse, I think that’s what makes the issue more complex than Delaney and co give it credence.

Amnesty international have wrote a letter to the PL urging them to block the deal. I hope they do similar to the UK Govt and other business because...

Already fucking loving this. Look at the size of him btw, looks like the two sex pests have been hitting the buffet cart, a buffet cart bought and paid for by Qatar - another country of human rights abusers but Keysey finds no hypocrisy with taking their money and laying into the house of Saud. I also find it odd that he just came out and said he wishes it wasn’t us, not that he is usually witty or anything but he at least normally tries to hide his digs a little bit. What an arrogant little prick btw, of all the things you can say the Saudis have done that little gimp pick illegally hacking the BeIn sports streams because it might see him out of a job, fingers crossed you little chimp fathered fucker .

Luke Edwards finally calmed himself down and is writing logically.

Fucking hell lads. I was going to suggest a temporary stoppage on new sign ups, but maybe we just make people who sign up take a look at this thread before they are able to try and troll.

It’s not a terrible argument, it’s a fact. You can’t just arbitrarily draw a line in the sand because the Saudis are worse than Qataris and Adu Dhabi. That’s illogical and ridiculous. You either flat out reject them or you don’t, you’re the one saying we can’t pick and choose here. I also wasn’t just mentioning football clubs but football as a whole. Those kids will be watching the Qatar 2022 World Cup don’t forget. How is it different? By doing so you’re doing the same thing Newcastle fans are doing, which is funding/accepting the Saudis. How about those same kids looking into where their iPhone comes from? If that’s the string you are pulling society is way past that. You, like the rest are just plain wrong. How the fuck can you say it’s a pathetic argument to point out Saudi money is everywhere? How is that different to NUFC accepting that money? Simply saying it’s different doesn’t make it so, because it’s not different again it’s funding and accepting that regime into the western world. It’s exactly the same, you can’t accept it everywhere else and then randomly draw the line in the sand when it comes to Newcastle United. FWIW I have not and do not welcome them, I welcome the end of Mike Ashley and I accept I have absolutely no control over them owning the club. I’m not going to stop supporting NUFC if that’s what you are after, it’s almost like this has created a gray area here, one that is the same sort of quandary I face when I pick up my iPhone - by engaging with it am I tacitly accepting the input? Potentially yes, they are the same type of quandary though, I reject your argument that they’re not as you’ve offered no reasoning besides saying they’re not. I’m defending NUFC fans here as they’re the ones people have immediately went for, not Mike Ashley btw who is actually selling to these people. Are there people taking it too far? Absolutely the same way that any fan base would have that section, but most people just want to follow their football club and have immediately been leapt on for saying they will continue to do so or show some modicum of excitement at getting rid of an owner who has been terrible. I will tell you why they will pass the fit and proper, how will the PL fail them? Do you believe the UK Government would allow the Premier League to send that kind of statement about Saudi Arabia out? Again I’m not saying they should but that’s the world we live in. Another item Newcastle fans have no control over. Do what you want though, no idea if you’re a Newcastle fan or not but if you are and your stance is to stop following the club that is your prerogative, but don’t pretend like that gives you some moral high ground over those that still follow, as it’s highly likely you’re funding/accepting them in some other way, and yes it is the same stop pretending like it’s not. You can pat yourself and congratulate yourself at being more morally pure than the knackers that will get over the top about these owners and completely ignore the mora hazards that come with them but don’t mistake those for the norm, the majority are struggling to square the circle the same way we do with most things in society.

Wife beating hypocrisy aside, Stan needs to quit his job at TalkSPORT, their owners News Corp happen to be invested in by Saudis...

I’ll save that for after we win a title and I make my very first venture onto SMB as a poster.

At this point I’m not even letting the meat see a pan lest it start to cook itself in preparation.

Erm, just please make sure it’s not an area of the Scottish wilderness that is overseen by a company or governing body that accept money from the Saudi/other gulf states for them to do some hunting in... maybe look into the tent as well remember we have to be sure it’s not waterproofed by something that is an oil byproduct as you know... yep Aramco.

In other news it seems we now have a special friendship like the mackems: Friends! We need a name as “the two most vile fan bases in the world because they didn’t stand up to Gulf blood money even though absolutely no other area of society did either club” doesn’t quite have a nice ring to is. Not as apt as the Mackem and Everton “bitter little cunts” club anyway

You should immediately stop following football for a start, remember not just Newcastle is involved in this, Qatari money is flowing through FIFA, UEFA, and Paris, along with all of the money the Abu Dhabi group has pumped into numerous clubs around the world, or do we not count any of those because the Saudis do more bad stuff than them? After you stop bothering with football you might wonder to yourself what should I do with my free time, please make sure you don’t watch boxing (took Saudi money), nor can you watch something like the WWE (again, Saudi money), suppose horse racing and the F1 are out as well? Yep, ok, well maybe don’t look at Twitter as well since they’re involved in that. You likely shouldn’t be driving seeing as Aramco oil is a possible source of petrol, also don’t use Uber. I will then need you to google everything SoftBank invests in, as yeah the Saudis are invested in them. That goes with their vision fund that they invested in with Apple and Microsoft (both upstanding company’s you should have zero qualms when using the products of). You’re getting close, have to stop reading anything the Independent puts out btw, which includes moral compass Miguel Delaney’s latest news on what you should do, unfortunately Miguel’s pay cheque comes from the part Saudi owned paper and he uses Twitter.

What would you like Rayvin to do? Protesting is out, we have been told for 13 years it doesn’t do anything. Should he stop supporting the club altogether?

Is that yet another relationship with another fan base of utter losers?

Aye I agree this is the more likely approach. While it takes longer it gets round FFP, and then allows for spending on the top level players once your revenue catches up. The scouting in the Red Bull group of teams is immense tbh, when you think in very recent memory they’ve had players like Mane, Keita, and Haaland (I know 2 out of that 3 were Salzburg but it’s the same regime). Agree as well there’s good potential they follow the RB and City group approaches of building a network of clubs with the PL/Bundesliga team sitting top of the hierarchy. I think it’s also important for them to be in a dialogue with the FFP administrators. I read somewhere that PSG have remained in constant contact whereas Man City have often completely ignored them, which has contributed to City being looked at less favorably.

Can you tell I was putting off doing my work today. I’ve also been getting right into the cans tonight and I feel good about this whole thing lads, it’s going to happen.