Howay

Agreed, I totally get the counter argument of making sure you have your ducks in a row and not being rushed as you’ve got an interim in charge, but Bruce is a different case. The players aren’t even training at the moment, and the longer it continues the harder it will be to turn things around as they’ll not be fully fit. If we were shite like last year but the players were training regularly, and we were picking up some wins I’d accept the argument to hold off but somethings really wrong when you look at this start and it doesn’t show any signs of changing especially considering the fat wanker is in about 3 days a week and is taking any chance he has to go on holiday.

Steve Wraiths phone is always on, set to loud, anytime they fancy giving the man some people say was a small cog in the takeover a call.

How much longer are they going to let this bloke take the piss?

I’m happy to be corrected but I don’t think they faced anything like this, and I think the reason was the pure arrogance of Manchester United/Liverpool etc, they’ve learned that a club can quickly transform when serious money is injected into it and that this repeated “but this club is bigger than this club” means very little when one of the clubs is offering more money and a better platform to win things. I agree about the mentality, and I think it’s going to be pissing our owners off. The fact they sent Charnley points to the fact they don’t take this threat too seriously iyam, all of the big hitters were in Newcastle on Sunday afternoon and were clearly aware of this Monday meeting but sent a bloke that’s on the verge of getting his P45. Even if any of it stuck (which I can’t see it being the case) we have a ton of headroom to spend even with our shite sponsorship deals anyway, plenty of time to figure out alternative arrangements.

I think they’re on dodgy ground and are reaching, it’ll realistically be a few clubs with their noses out of joint trying to do anything they can to disrupt and the others just going along with it. I think even this “fair value” shit they’re bringing up is ropey, it would be very hard to attribute a fair value to a sponsorship deal especially as the PiF could claim numerous benefits of advancing things in their own country by using branding etc. They would need to bring in some type of independent authority on this, funnily enough the exact type of thing most these twats have been fighting to keep away from their affairs. Plus as you say we can then just have a sponsor for absolutely everything. I agree with Isegrim that they were banking on the takeover being blocked so are now trying to throw any blocker they can. The bit I think they’re missing here is they should have a good long think before they go this type of route, as do it enough and it will eventually become easier for Newcastle and Manchester City to just go to the court system and smash FFP all over the place, then not needing to do any of this “financial doping”. Again though I personally find it very troubling that the clubs are ganging up behind closed doors and conspiring in this fashion. A very troubling precedent iyam, and another thing some of these clubs should probably be thinking twice about doing.

“Straight after it, the 19 clubs met on their own to discuss the financial implications of having the Saudis as competitors. It led to the draft of the temporary ban on related party transactions – Newcastle would be notified of this – and then to Monday’s meeting.” Tbh this alone sounds dodgy as fuck, surely it’s meant to all be done in the open and not 19 clubs nattering about another behind closed doors. Isn’t this the exact type of behind doors collision the tossers formerly known as the “big six” accused of with regard to the ESL?

In what way can they dress this up as a brand worry, it’s making it clear as day they want to block us from spending and surely it’s not even lawful. It’ll just fire the Saudis up to make it even worse for them.

I might be wrong but I think he was in quarantine per COVID protocol after the internationals. Tbh even if he was on the pitch he does fucking nowt. A better manager would get more out of him like Rafa did, but even then he wasn’t up to much.

He’d be a good buy tbf. Would be a big upgrade on Almiron imo who has been fucking hopeless bar a short spell under Rafa (maybe recoverable under a manager better than Bruce but personally don’t think the kid is up to much).

Mind the shite people come out with to defend this tosser is absurd. Looking around Twitter there’s a ton of idiots saying they watched Newcastle today and it’s clear Newcastle’s team is full of championship players so what’s Bruce meant to do, and changing him wouldn’t do anything. Funny that this “Championship” squad finished 10th and 13th before he took over, then got 13th and 12th with him in charge. Funny that the same players that made up iirc the 6th best defence in the league are now branded utter shite and championship level after a couple of seasons of his coaching and tactics. I’m not saying I really rate many of our players but this rewriting people do is absurd, it’s also majorly overrating the players in the teams around us. This squad with a good manager would be nowhere near relegation.

We need a new manager in as soon as possible. We will possibly get a new manager bounce, and start to put some actual tactical framework in place which would hopefully mean we nick some wins before January where the squad can be really improved. The longer they keep Bruce the more difficulty there will be, the blokes an absolute negative imo.

Bruce really capitalized on that time in the dressing room to help the team figure out a plan.

Can we sack Bruce yet?

Aye it’s hilarious that they’ve managed it but to be totally honest they’re not bad pundits, as they actually pay attention to teams outside the “super duper six” and tend to give fair thoughts on most outside the usual tropes about each club/fanbase.

Hilarious that he’s put on a suit for this btw. Bet he’s desperate for this day to be over so he can get the tracky bottoms back on.

The entirety of the build up to the Everton v West Ham match has just been about Newcastle. Robbie Earle saying he expects Newcastle will win titles in the near future. I bet the Everton and West Ham fans watching are loving this.

I think they should stick with him, they can’t expect success overnight, what more do they expect, got them to their highest finish in x amount of years (too lazy to look like the pundits), think it’s disgraceful how the fans are treating him. Think that about covers it. If they don’t stick with him I’d personally like Steve Bruce to be given a chance, as Scholes says he deserves a chance to be given a role where he has lots of money to spend, plus he knows the club.

Boro still exist by the way? What an irrelevant club, glad to see they still have a little weird mackem type rivalry with us mind.

Completely missed the likely intended slight of the bloke putting big in quotation marks. The big club argument is childish and irrelevant enough when it’s about top division sides, but imagine doing it in the third fucking tier man.

Never change Spurs fans.

Honestly only in football could some fucking idiot that’s clinging on to his job for an £8m pay off be framed as doing some noble thing that should be highly respected. What’s he fucking done? Had about 3 days work where he’s probably phoned it in as per, and got pissy at the first question asked despite knowing full well the questions that were coming. Bruce is more than welcome to quit the job, literally everyone bar him would be buzzing if he did.

It’s mint that I can now watch this without being fuming about what a fucking tit he is he’s just now a minor irritation before the club moves on to bigger and better things.

Spot on. Aye there’s no doubt they’re well run, and have maintained momentum and capitalized from those early advantages. I think the last point is key here too, they’ll moan about teams like us and Manchester City doing to them what they are doing to the rest of the league. I also get what you’re saying Rayvin, I personally don’t like Klopp so I find him whiny at the best of times let alone issues like he’s trying to bring up here so just like to point out his hypocrisy. I agree, it’s something we definitely have to get used to I just take exception to people like Klopp trying to paint the past as some golden age where everything was a meritocracy when in actual fact it’s pretty much always been driven by who has the most money. I agree with Alex that they’re punching above their weight class for now, in part due to Manchester United’s failings in recent years, I think Klopp is a massive reason for that too though as he is a brilliant coach, fortunately I see him leaving them soon and they’ll drop a fair bit off where they are now.

It’s rocky foundation though. I’m fairly sure at some point they had a wealthy investor owner who gave them that initial leg up. It’s like how Blackburn won the league off the money their owner pumped in, people romanticize it because by today’s standard the money doesn’t look big but at the time it was.