Howay

Joelinton looks a different player, all over the pitch putting in good tackles and passes and cracking finish. Really mint to see us playing on the front foot for the first time in fucking years.

Very nice kit tbf, maybe it’s been made so they can sell kits in Saudi Arabia? Not sure if they can just remove the sponsor on the original home kit for sale there or if this is a way of getting round that.

You’re the liar here tbh, you’ve cherry picked latter posts after you watered down your language of your initial point as you climbed down. People explained to you why a loan could happen but you were arguing against it, not presenting an opinion but acting like they were wrong. If you agreed a loan is an option what was it you took such exception to in Wykiki’s initial post when you responded the way you did? then when people explained it all to you you then made the above retorts which make absolutely no sense unless you’re implying a loan wasn’t a possibility. You weren’t even saying you don’t see Manchester United going for it, you were taking the approach of acting like it was so ridiculous of a thought that you repeatedly asked the same question each time people told you why. The same as when you use the word ‘clearly’ in reference to Manchester United keeping him, yet another thing you’re completely incorrect in saying, it’s not ‘clear’ it’s pure speculation on your part. I agree that this is over though. You’re really arguing with yourself here tbh, your initial point absolutely was that of a loan wasn’t an option as you asked a rhetorical question like Wykikis point was absurd and further doubled, and tripled down on it, I made that point clear a number of times that this was your initial point and you never attacked it until this absurd post where you’ve resorted to insults (calling me a liar is the insult I’m referring to here since you need everything explained to you), I (and others) explained a number of ways why it’s a possibility and you twisted things in some weird attempt to reframe it as if I was suggesting a loan was a better option, and even said it’s all speculation (which was my entire point on why you were wrong). Like I say this is my last post on this one as I’m tired of repeatedly explaining all of the above, enjoy whatever ridiculous discussion you move onto next as this is the third or so shit point you’ve made in however long you’ve posted.

You’re wrong. You flat out rejected people saying a loan was an option. Again I never said anywhere that a permanent option wouldn’t be on the table, just that your point is based entirely on an assumption whereas you were dismissing the possibility of a loan by acting like there’d definitely be permanent moves. It’s not circular it’s simply all speculation the same as your shit point that you’re presenting as fact. There’s nothing circular about saying a loan may be the only option. You’re yet again basing your point on possibility despite you using that to flat out reject the loan route being available. So again you’re wrong. I know the whole conversation is speculative, you were the one dismissing the option. You didn’t say “I don’t think a loan would happen because….” you instead argued with people acting like it simply wouldn’t happen because you assume there will be permanent options. I can keep using that as my counter as it flat out reject your entire shit point. Again your final point is pure speculation, I’ve not said anywhere they didn’t hold onto him for squad depth I’ve only attacked your point that you presented as the only reason with a possible counter that they held onto him hoping to get a larger fee, maybe they did reject it due to squad depth then went and got Cristiano Ronaldo so he was pushed further down the pecking order, it’s entirely possible but again I wasn’t arguing that there weren’t other possibilities the way you often have.

Oh aye, another reason it would be preferable to loan and pay Lingard more, which might work out equal to a transfer fee is that way I’m not giving a rival PL club money they can then use on another player.

Your initial point was why would you loan a player who had 6 months on their contract, you then further made a point of why would Manchester United do that. I was responding to that, of course I’m guessing that there might not be any permanent offers but I never made a point that he wouldn’t move permanently or that moving permanently didn’t make sense whereas you made those points in reference to moving on loan. None of your second paragraph takes away from my point, it might be Lingards preference to go out on loan since he can get more money it may not be an option to sign permanently meaning a loan is the option of signing him. Again you were the one dismissing a loan option so don’t try and twist things. You’re also missing the positive for a loaning club that if he comes and the move turns out to not work they can walk away from the deal. You’re again guessing they rejected bids because of squad depth, iirc they were rumoured to have offered him to West Ham for a fee West Ham didn’t want to pay. I disagree someone else needs to fill those very sparse sub appearances (5 in the PL, the rest in competitions they may or may not be involved in much longer) in many instances they have other players who could have come on already, or even a youth player, they’re also going to have to fill that role in the summer now regardless. Maybe they will reject everything simply to cover this tiny role and lose him for nowt, but again you were the one dismissing the loan possibility off hand here I’ve never said he will move simply offered reasons for why a loan might happen. Also in reference to the open market point iirc he can agree a pre contract with another club any time after having less than 6 months on his deal. Making it highly likely he’d sign with the club he’s on loan with, again not a certainty but again he might not be giving clubs the option you’re making out like Manchester United and buying clubs hold all the power when you frame it like that.

You’re guessing though. What happens if there’s not? Why pay Manchester United a transfer fee if you could get him for a smaller loan fee and potentially sign him to a contract in the summer? It also makes more sense for Lingard himself to move on loan, that way he’d likely get a larger wage and/or larger signing bonus as is typical for players that move on a free. He’s played 5 sub appearances for them, they barely need him and likely wouldn’t need to replace him. It’s better for them to get something for him if possible whether that’s a loan or a permanent transfer, holding out for more is exactly what landed them in this current situation. I’d rather we permanently signed him, I think he’s a good player and would improve our side by a good amount. It also means we could bring others in on loan if needed.

“The Don”

They wanted a big fee, no one (mainly West Ham) would pay as he was going into the last year of his deal mainly. He’s since weakened their hand by refusing to sign a new deal (which they wanted him to simply to strengthen their hand in a possible sale). If there is no other option to sell why wouldn’t they loan him out? If someone come in for him then yes that would be their preferred option but they might only have the option to loan him out meaning they get something for him as well as not having to pay his wages, they don’t play him much so it’s not like they’re clamoring to keep him for that reason.

There’s surely some stats that tell the story that Charnley was fucking brilliant in his role. Tbh he lasted longer in the role than any of his predecessors so was vital. 😉

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Power_(footballer) Seems he’s moved on to a bigger club.

Probably, I knew they had some cunt who sounded like he was a shit battery brand. Probably the dodgy battery brand the homeless bloke that tried to buy them pours boiling water over to make Rich Energy.

I don’t understand the clamoring by a fair few mackems to see us relegated and them promoted so we could play. It would be a fucking mullering, we’d likely be the most expensive squad ever assembled in the Championship as the owners will absolutely only want 1 season there, meanwhile they’ll have whoever the fuck they have in their team, Max Power or something?

Should have put a wink, I was being a sarcastic cunt because of the lad with the Shelvey fan club badge going on about it making no sense earlier.

Grown lads man, how many days is that sad act going to stand outside that fence. Fucking content ffs

Why would Manchester United try and get a loan fee for a player that’s leaving for nowt in the summer (therefore getting some money in as well as not paying his wages), for a player that’s made a whopping 5 sub appearances for them this season in the league?

Gemmill will be happy to know Weaith has cleared the way for Adam to be loved now.

Aye it’s absolutely incredible he’s slating us for not picking a bloke that he thinks we should have picked, who then went and got another job any way. Regardless of what people think Gerrard will become as a manager it’s all guesswork, Eddie Howe has 12 years experience and has experience fighting against relegation which is something all the pundits were banging on about when we were after Emery! Samuel is a fat pig though, and he’s always been a tragic journalist - he puts as much effort into his work as he does his appearance.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10192315/Newcastle-confident-agree-Saudi-sponsorship-deals-rid-Sports-Direct-branding.html SD signage news!

Iirc Lampard had Mason Mount, Harry Wilson, and Fikayo Tomori at Derby all on loan - looking at their careers since (especially Mount and Tomori) having them was probably a massive factor compared to the drop off since tbf. Not saying he’s necessarily terrible but I always thought him having pretty much two CL level players in the championship helped (they were lesser known but both played for Chelsea the following season).

What an absolute throbber.

It’s fucking mad that the text on the wall was very likely put there during Ashley’s ownership, the cheeky cunt . The novelty of being able to talk about Ashley’s ownership in past tense isn’t wearing off at all neither. Thank fuck we’ve saw the back of that prick.

Obviously THAT man was on the scene for the exclusive everyone wanted, getting the info none of the other cunts can get. They don’t just give out Trinity Mirror group awards to any fucker.

Interesting choice that Burt from Sesame Street was chosen to interview him.