Howay

Remember under Bruce when we come up against really well drilled sides, no matter what players they had available you knew from kick off the chances of getting much from the game was extremely low. It’s amazing that going into this one we are the well drilled side, and the scouse mackems are a clueless, disorganized mess. Hope we give them another lacing.

Aye that’s how it’s going to have to be, sounds like this bloke is a Chelsea supporter so he likely just wants to save the club and be involved in running it. The excitement that there’s some link to PiF is rubbish really, if the PiF had wanted a side like Chelsea they’d have bought one - they tried to buy Liverpool, Spurs, and Manchester United at various points but were put off by the valuations due to their aims. As you say, they’ll become poor relations and will have to figure out a new way to run - the bloke and his consortium don’t seem to have Abramovich money and are paying a fucking hell of a lot more than he did for it.

I think it’ll be a similar situation to Sheffield United, they’re owned by another bloke from SA. If it goes to him they’ll maybe go on to be somewhat like Arsenal, backed by a decently wealthy consortium headed by the bloke mentioned. Seems like I’m right that the mackems are frothing at the mouth over it, mackems will see posts like mine and think it’s hilarious as they’ll see it as delusion but this purchase would have zero impact on us. It’s a less wealthy version of Chelsea’s current set up, it just so happens the bloke is connected to SA rather than Russia - it’s a step down for Chelsea and zero impact on us. They’re welcome to get all excited if they want but that’s a bit weird given their sudden interest in the denial of SA business in football, surely this should upset them?

Aye the mental gymnastics will be incredible here. You don’t make that level of money in SA without being connected, or in many ways complicit with the leaders of SA. The other piece I’m going to assume without going onto twitter or forums is the Chelsea fans (and likely mackems) will be absolutely over the moon with all of this, all completely into the idea this will make us some type of feeder or secondary club to them - despite it being the same situation as Sheffield United in that it’s just a rich Saudi bloke buying a club.

There’s so many things he can level at the club, but the tweet he’s using there to moan about the club traveling to SA for a training camp literally says “no confirmation where yet, but Dubai & Miami have been floated”, so not SA then? He could have even said something about how we have previously went, but no again they just make shit up to be outraged about. Just for the sake of it let’s act like he made an actual accurate point, like taking on the broader point of us going there in general. The club is owned by a Saudi Arabian fund with a Saudi Arabian chairman, so it’s logical that the club will go there at times - so why bother being outraged about the club going? it’s not like Howe or anyone connected to the club that isn’t the controlling owner will be able to refuse to go is it? It’s a Saudi Arabian owned entity acting in a manner which benefits Saudi Arabia, this will continue to be the case surely it would make more sense to be annoyed with clubs that travel to destinations with similar issues despite having no connection? Or companies who choose to do business with Saudi Arabia? It’s almost like he doesn’t actually have that much interest in the issues he’s indirectly trying to raise, and is simply using it to denigrate Newcastle fans. Seems a bit distasteful to leverage issues like that to have a pop at a fan base you don’t like, but that’s what Exile likes to do while taking the moral high ground of course. Or maybe just stick to the point that they shouldn’t be owners of a football club, why bother twisting in knots to make up things to be outraged about when the main issue is staring you in the face? Of course this is because actually highlighting the true issue exempts Newcastle fans from this faux outrage of blame sharing (other than those which engage in defending SA, donning flags etc), mackems clearly prefer to just make up convoluted things to be angry with to keep the blame on fans/Howe/whoever else that doesn’t make these decisions, or in this case just make something up.

I expected to look at the comments of this and see most of them telling him he can’t read properly, but the vast majority are also saying it’s hypocritical and there’s a media agenda against them, despite Luke’s two posts being basically the same point also: Football discussion in 2022. Can this lot hurry up and get in the fucking bin?

Do these types of people genuinely believe this is the case? A lot of similar and “brilliant work Rob keep it up” type replies too he can keep asking but this will be the reply constantly given, at what point does it just become a self gratifying exercise?

I hate that along with the “I’m not that type of player” shite. It’s dangerous play and he should have been walking off the pitch, Burn is spot on that if it was him he’d be gone - lightweight forwards like Havertz get away with shithouse stuff. Fucking absurd Havertz throwing in the bit about our defenders fouling them, with the clear implication that we’re a dirty side, meanwhile Chelsea kicked us around the pitch. There were two or three kicks to the head of Newcastle players, Havertz red card offense, and then constant other shirt pulling and late tackles. We’ll see where both sides are next season.

Compared to the totally balance view of the below tweet he retweeted: I have no issue with articles about our ownership, the greater issue of owners like them being involved in football etc etc. But the constant snide attacks at our fan base, either via articles or from some of these journalists having digs in the comments, along with this absurd practice of asking Howe about events can all get in the sea. I don’t know what they want or expect Howe to say? And I’m also not having Miguel fucking Delaney question Howe working for who he works for when Delaney works for a paper that’s majority ownership is split between a Russian Oligarch and a Saudi Arabian with close links to the house of Saud. It’s also disrespectful to Howe tbh. It’s also not went amiss the way they are framing Howe’s non-answer as deflection, whereas Tuchels fucking non answer is being hailed as some masterclass of what to say given the “difficult and situation Tuchel is in” - never mind that the exact same attacks re who he works for that are levelled at Howe also apply to Tuchel. Personally I think they’re just being dishonest, and pathetic. As Alex said this is purely borne from jealousy. They’ll disguise it as “important” to raise but if this is really their aim why are they constantly baiting? I agree with Isegrims point that our fanbase shouldn’t defend the owners, I agree wholeheartedly but a lot of these journalists are goading and pushing for that reaction. I’m not saying it’s the right retort, but it’s something they angle for and if you read comments at times these journalists get genuinely nasty towards the fans the way any jealous fan would. If their intention truly is to educate, avoid sportswashing, and stop people from defending the actions of Saudi Arabia etc they wouldn’t be acting in this manner. By making it into the black and white issue they make it (as in the “you should stop supporting Newcastle, that’s the only appropriate response” craic) and then attacking people for supporting their team, then essentially saying “if you support Newcastle you may as well have executed those people yourself”, it’s backing people into a corner where the mental gymnastics to excuse and lessen what SA do happens. Again not excusing people that defend SA in any way, or put on SA flags etc but a lot of the Journalists can fuck right off acting like their intentions are well meaning.

Is Edwards feeling ok today? Or has someone nicked his phone and tweeted for him?

I’ve sometimes considered signing up for RTG to save you all from my long winded tirades and get it out my system, but sadly I imagine I’d be banned within minutes of my first post.

He definitely went “errrm in that case 4 more pints moi ahhhhld sahhhn”

Aye that sums it up. I’m not arsed about them but if teams are going to carry on the way you mention I’m going to have a pop, I enjoy doing it tbh and was wanting a bit of an argument when I first saw a Southampton fan (maybe he was a mackem but I have a hard time thinking a mackem would say we are bigger than anyone, whereas a little Rupert nice day out type would) had bitten. As HMHM points out it turns out mr floppy cock had put on his historical garb and given us all a look into the maritime past. Sometimes fans of nobody clubs like that get the most heated since usually no one talks about them, other than the “they play some nice stuff under [insert manager name]”, they even used to say that under Puel when the football they played was absolutely torture to watch, but no one cares. Which is probably why he signed up to defend Southampton’s history or something, I don’t even think I’d mentioned the actual city tbh. It’s not like us where we support a club that when we open Twitter half the stuff is people having a pop at us . Would have been nice to have had a bit of classic TT arguing with another fanbase. Unfortunately mr flaccid penis made some weird point about being more successful, immediately backed down and told us we were miles better as a club, then said he’d won the argument.

Aye you’ve really shown me by telling me how much bigger a club Newcastle are. You can swear btw Rupert.

There’s a chance, but he’s also pretty much exactly what I’d accused in my first post. Come on to basically have a go because I slated them, but spent most of it rambling on about maritime ports, and how they’re a feeder club, little pop with his mental claim of being more successful. Me and a couple of others pile a bit more stick on, he decides to give a “you replied so you care” post rather than have ANY banter whatsoever, brings up Mr Brexit, waffled on about wanting respect, then goes on about what a brilliant massive club we are and wishes us all the best trying to take the high road spiffing what what tally ho! Utter shit craic, imagine if I’d piled into a proper football club like that. Off Rupert pops back home on his penny farthing.

Aye shame for him. I’m sure like most international managers he selects based off players with the bigger name, and players he knows/like or have been in the squad. Too much work keeping track of how all the possible players he could select are doing, just keep picking Fred.

Brutal for them if true.

The classic argument of “you replied so you care” not always true is it? Same as I’m not bothered if you think I care about Matt Le Tissier. Nah, don’t think I will show respect. Tired of hearing opinions about my club from fan bases like yours. I had a pop at your club because your manager twisted on for over 2 months, along with your fan base on twitter, phone ins etc, then your club proceeded to play a load of songs about money at half time and pre-game. Your club showed zero respect so it’s absurd to demand it from me. Any way I’ll do what you think someone that doesn’t care will do and that’s pack in replying to your drivel.

Just what every top side is met with, apathy and a pat on the head .

Aye what planet is this bloke on? We can have this debate with Aston Villa etc, but fucking Southampton? Bringing cups into this fucking one FA cup and a Johnson’s paint trophy, counting that is like us counting the Intertoto cup and winning the Championship 3 times in that span. I’m fine ignoring trophies since we can’t shout about that either but as across the pond says you’re talking about a span of time where we finished top 2 in the Premier League, as well as played in the CL for multiple seasons. We’ve also been outside the Premier League for I think 4 seasons in that time span all in division 1/championship, compared to Southampton who spent 2 in league one alone. Ridiculous trying to claim you can even argue any comparable success. Stand by every word I said tbh, everyone and their fucking dog trots out opinions, stereotypes and bollocks about our fan base so I’ll do it about all of yours as well. The fact you threw in ££ to sanitize the word cunt, and spelt Howay the incorrect mackem way sums it up. Why do I give a fuck that your club is a feeder club for others? You win the trophy of being a good academy, still a fucking non-entity if a club. Don’t give a fuck what you have to say, nor do I know why you signed up here to voice your crap opinions. Fucking comparing our clubs and saying you’ve been more successful .

The replies to his tweet btw. The Chelsea fans have lost the plot, a lot of “we will come back even stronger”, “it’s Chelsea against the world as always”, “how does this help Ukraine?”, “Government trying to destroy us as they hate us” insanity. Even if they manage to survive the notion they’ll be anywhere near competing where they were just a week ago is absurd . Won’t even try and unpack their weird mentality about a conspiracy against them by the UK government.

#sanctions

10 in a rooowwwahhh

In light of Chelsea having all their bank accounts and credit lines frozen, and possibility that our game with them might have to be forfeited I’m feeling even more confident in my 0-3 prediction .

With that new information I question if our game can go ahead. Why would any of the staff turn up? They now know they won’t be paid for Sunday, the players too although they have other incentives to play. I can’t remember but don’t clubs also have to pay the police on match days for the extra officers and overtime? Regardless they may not even have stewards or staff on the turnstiles which I doubt is allowable.