Howay

I’m not over you backing up the Fish when I told the world the line up.

Van De Pipsqueak and Debby not starting neither.

Deleted tweet from toon twitter account. My nark might be right.

Maguire, Southgate makes some outrageous selections like.

At this point I feel they should just lean in, just have everyone nod along with his drivel so it gives him absolutely titanium confidence. The phone lines of every single show he’s on will explode with the anger directed their way as “Merse” struts around saying he still thinks Noooocarsul will be relegated with 2 games to go when they’re 18 points clear.

My nark says he is, so we’ll see. Not heard it anywhere else yet but was told that was the team training together yesterday.

Honestly man it’s got to be one of the best jobs in the world. That first 45 seconds shows you can talk complete fucking nonsense and then just do the same again the next time, don’t bother doing any research, or having common sense, just turn up and say random shite. The look on Souness’ face at a couple of points I think he’s genuinely stunned so just stops responding.

I can see him going with the usual back 4, Dubravka, and then Bruno, Joelinton, Willock in midfield, and Almiron, Wood, Fraser as forwards.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10616249/Minister-investigate-assurances-Newcastle-United-gave-Premier-League-Saudi-role-club.html I’m sure the Government will be getting right to this, the same government who pretty much backed the deal. In fact, here’s the opinion of the Minister they’ve told to look into it: “The UK’s relationship with Saudi Arabia is really important,” said Huddleston “Saudi Arabia is an important partner of the UK in investment, intelligence and culture. We welcome Saudi Arabian investment. Many, many jobs in the UK are dependent on our relationship with the Saudis but we take the opportunity to talk frankly and openly with Saudi Arabia. We can have frank exchanges because of the nature of our relationship.” I wonder if he’s schedule sent the email response “After looking into the matter I have no concerns about the support received by the PL” or has he just put it into his drafts? I think people are also misunderstanding the issue that held up the deal, they used the ask of having MBS submit to the O&D test as a way to block the deal due to the piracy stuff. They didn’t play this angle because he would fail it, they did it knowing he’d never submit to it.

I’m sure they’ll all ‘severe ties’. Nice that they sieved through twitter comments to pick out those ones, did anyone bother doing that with the Newcastle takeover when the Saudis were linked? Even if there was some supporter base wide rejection of this bloke, let’s be honest it’s because they think there’s some “trillionaire” Saudi trying to buy the club (according to some parts of the media).

Regarding the journalists who attack the fans for being complicit, what are our choices? We have no power to stop it, so we’d have to effectively remove football from our lives. Even if we could kick up a huge stink and have the sale blocked/make the buyers lose interest we are then back to Ashley farting into our face while Charnley pins us down, which is basically cutting footy out our lives anyway. My opinion of these pricks is honestly so low that I think if we did kick up a huge fuss and somehow block/deter the deal there’d be a ton of articles calling us xenophobic/racist cunts who obviously just want a Geordie to own the club. Then they’d go back to howling laughing at us being abhorrent under Ashley, and whenever we complained they’d have a new point of “well they could have had the Saudi owners and been competing with Manchester City by now”.

Spot on, all the points would be palmed off as “whataboutism” but they all stand if you steamroll into the path of morality. You can’t just reject all counterpoints as whataboutism which is what they’re doing. Aye, as above they’re steamrolling into morality but being selective with it which is always a dicey thing to do. By all means highlight the deplorable behavior of SA, but what about all of the shirt manufacturers and their use of sweatshops? How many people die or have their lives ruined from those practices? All of the points ewerk listed should be brought up, and many many more. How can they pick and choose the amount of deaths, or manner of deaths that deserve questioning? The question you highlight about how these journalists think we should proceed hits the nail on the head. It’s perfectly fine to say you’re highlighting issues but give no view on resolution, but the moment you start passing judgement on those like Howe, or the supporters, I would argue they’re obligated (including you Bird, you patronizing cunt) to explain what should be done. Take the absolute approach and cease all business with them, all well and good but can we agree that historically hasn’t worked well? Do we take the role of world police and attack them, install a government of our choosing and force our beliefs? Again that hasn’t really worked well in many (if any) cases, maybe this soft power play of creating a dependance on the west, it could lead to change, and when it doesn’t (e.g. Russia) you have a leash that you can severely pull in and attempt to force them to back down, the issue? Engaging with a horrific regime leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouths, but this is the play the Government are making and you can’t shame people like Eddie Howe for going along with that, unless of course you are able to provide a preferable alternative (even then it’s more the responsibility of the Government and not a fucking football manager). It’s almost as if this is a highly complex, nuanced issue and isn’t quite as straightforward as they’re all making out. Again, no issue with them calling out SA, writing articles about how they’re despicable and shouldn’t be involved in football (may want to start including all the other horrible cunts involved too though) but attacks against people like Howe, or supporters are just unwarranted.

Spot on. The article that Meenzer recently posted that was an interview with MBS really highlights your point about the importance of western influence if a more progressive SA is what people want, they discuss how Biden is ignoring him and MBS basically says if I don’t look west I’ll just look East. Shut these people out and things don’t improve there, additionally it’s not going to be some overnight thing if we do allow them in it’s going to take a long time. Obviously keep pressure/highlighting all of the wrongs they do, as I do think it is important (likely via better channels than sports writers but it is what it is), but this obsession about shutting them out because they’re awful won’t lead to any change within SA. The two ideals can’t really go hand in hand imo, if you don’t want anything to do with them and want them shut out the country that’s an acceptable stand point but people also have to then accept the chances of them changing is significantly narrowed by that - shutting them out doesn’t force change it just means they look to leaderships more accepting of their indiscretions.

Thread of Howe’s response. Not sure what else they could possibly want or expect after that, I’m sure they will keep repeating it though.

They’re not winning, Donny Van De Pipsqueak and Debby Alli have to line up against the mighty Sean Longstaff. That’s the turnaround thanks to Eddie, I genuinely think even Longstaff will boss that.

Luke Edwards article about Bruce in 3…2…

Then we will go a goal up and they’ll all leave again, as they have the last few games.

Maybe he should call them out, probably get fired and then the owners can get someone like Thomas Tuchel, or basically any other football manager that would gleefully take the job.

Bird does aye. It is a shame Howe doesn’t come out and say something mind as it seems like if he does the whole of Saudi Arabia will listen, and immediately change to a full westernized culture that people like Simon Bird find to be the only, and acceptable form of culture. Or maybe the opinion of a football manager is irrelevant? It would be accused of it, but it absolutely isn’t whataboutism to say that someone in a position of running the county, like I don’t know, Boris Johnson? Might be in more of a position where he should speak about these issues, but instead he is signing billion pound deals, and supplying them with fighter jets, and bombs. He’s a fucking football manager man, his job is to talk about football. Just because he is employed by them why does that make him any more qualified or obligated to discuss it? If they want to question the man’s integrity for taking such a job perhaps that’s fine, you’d have to live some fucking life to not be a hypocrite for calling him out for that but by all means jump through those hoops, he can then give an answer that he’s just here to coach footy and he’s buzzing at the opportunity in front of him - again they can read into that however they like. But to say he has some fucking obligation to speak out? Every single manager and player in the league should be asked about it if that’s the case, probably start asking them about every single other ill that happens in the world since those are all important topics too. Additionally, if we are going to be brought up every single time Chelsea are discussed shouldn’t Manchester City be brought up as well? Or are the UAE and all their dealings all above board? Or maybe they’re all perfectly content to delude themselves that there’s true separation between Manchester City and UAE leadership, but don’t want to apply that shit logic to our ownership. As I’ve said all the time, journalists should feel free to attack our owners, fans that support the SA regime in any way i.e. flying flags, defending their actions, etc (again though maybe clarify that it’s a minority of the fan base here), the PL, UEFA, UK Government, FIFA, and whoever fucking else allowed these types of people into football, but it’s completely fucking rich to target Eddie Howe a man that has absolutely no desire to enter the political arena, or the fan base that just wants to watch the team play. Anyway, I wonder how Southgates lads will do at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. Hopefully every single manager and player that goes there to play, therefore being just as complicit as Eddie Howe is accused of being here, faces a similar grilling every single time they’re interviewed. Now that I think about it, that might be tough since all these journalists will definitely be boycotting that World Cup right? TLDR: Bunch of sanctimonious, boring, arrogant cunts. You’re a bunch of blokes that write about football for a living man, that doesn’t give you free reign to be the arbiters of every fucking topic and issue known to man. Stick to what you know, feel free to write articles about the state of the game because of involvement of these types but stop passing fucking judgement on everyone from your proper high altar of a… football journalist

Same as all the western Companies that will flood to Saudi Arabia’s new city NEOM. Fwiw I’m more than fine for football to be held to a higher standard if that’s what we decided, it would be incredibly hard to do since anyone excluded but able to do other business in the U.K. would probably be able to sue, but I’d be fine with them trying. Again though that’s not really why most of this outrage is happening, there are no doubt some that truly want it and are consistent, but once there was a whiff of Saudi interest the Chelsea fans did a complete 180 in their opinions while doing mental gymnastics about why it was different in their case.

Tbf they want Storey to take them over and he looks like he needs a good sportswashing.

#vintage #countryliving #freshair #grass

I once looked it up and there was a Liverpool fan who was trying to defend him by saying he got it from a charity, as if that changes the point.

you must have got in before the edit. There’s too many mackem type clubs, hard to keep track of them - the originals are of course the classiest and biggest of the lot though.

To do that he will have to have access to it, currently it’s in mammy’s bank accounts.