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I’ve heard from the bloke I know that this £60m figure being thrown about is the internal communication at the moment, and that it’s what we can spend under FFP. That seems to line up with Howe’s quote there. Not sure how we can be capped to such a low number, whether it’s true or whether it’s just being put out with the intention it leaks out to the press which helps to deflate the idea of what we will spend. I just don’t really get how it tracks if we were wanting Botman and Eketike in January. Additionally, the players I’ve heard we are scouting have been a waste of time (Saliba, Kamara (Marseilles), Pacqueta, Raphinha, Nunez, etc), even the lower end ones (Brennan Johnson, Djed Spence, and Lloyd Kelly), if that number is true as after Matty Targetts 15m we’d be able to afford maybe one of them.

Agreed, feels like a desperate gamble by the new owners who’ve sadly fucked the clubs finances. They’ve done shite this season but from the outside it looks like the lack of investment finally caught up with them.

Luke is back defending his favorite person, who didn’t move training sessions to evenings but sometimes he did. Thanks pisshead. Special points for “this is dull” when he’s the one that started arguing with a post that had zero to do with him.

Half expect him to throw in a couple of “how do you say?” When the glasses come out.

Spot on, notice how Pardew has his glasses on the classic Pardew trying to look like an intellectual go to.

Personally think this is a swing and a miss from Douglas. It’s putting too much weight on the high finish we got and leaves out a crucial point of why Pardew wasn’t accepted, and why I personally won’t look back on Pardew’s time “very fondly”, which was the manner of his appointment. It was a gut punch to the fans, a popular manager was removed for no fucking reason and replaced by a man who had no right to get a PL job. It felt like Ashley yet again being spiteful towards the fans as there was a good atmosphere and feeling from the fans towards Hughton and that squad. I look back on that 5th place season and really enjoyed it at the time, but I don’t really look back fondly at it. Not because I’m deluded and was expecting more, but because it was pretty much peak Ashley - from the manner of Pardews appointment, to the complete disregard and lack of desire to build on that 5th place finish which led to immediate decline in the squad and atmosphere. A lot of those players also left the club in ways that left my feelings towards them a little sour, I understand why some of them did it from their view and I don’t think they owe us anything but it still soured my opinion of them. For example seeing Ba suddenly being our cheerleader and trying to get to events/matches etc.

Does this exile weirdo post his count daily?

Seems it was kicking off after the Man City game. Savic pulled Grealishs hair who responded by saying “you’re a cunt mate” sadly the video I saw of it was removed from Twitter. Then Savic tried to head butt Sterling, followed by Grealish and Savic being held apart in the tunnel Found a picture of Savic and Grealish

In front of our scouts

It’s all future events so it’s pretty subjective I guess. I just personally feel that it would take a lot for them to be in a position to realistically compete with us next season. I have a very low view of the majority of our squad so think improving on those players with every player we buy is almost certain. Couple those two views and I think the clubs will be a wide margin apart next season. Totally get football can change quickly though. On Rafa, he only had them 15th I think they’d have been safer with him but I still think they’d have been comfortably bottom half. If they sell those two I’m not sure how much they’d get but I’d be a little surprised if they went for nearly £50m each. I’ve heard that’s what their ask is from us for DCL but everyone knows they’re over a bit of a barrel as well. They’ve also done an astonishingly bad job at spending their money, so give them £100m to play with and they’ll buy mostly crap (Myolenko and Alli would be nearly £65m if their fees were fully paid for example), I don’t really see that changing much as it’s been consistently shit regardless of the manager they’ve had. Don’t get me wrong, I want them to go down but at the same time I just don’t see them being a threat to us next season even if Lampard is sacked. I do think they’ll hang onto Lampard if they stay up, the narrative around them is Rafa is mostly to blame it seems which helps take some heat off Lampards dog shit management.

I’m not saying ours has been good, just it’s a weird thing to suddenly start banging on about. It also, as the Fish points out, fucks up their “Ashley is brilliant” mantra as one of the areas Newcastle fans brought up was lack of funding in the youth side. I mean, they have Henderson and Pickford but in the same time frame we’ve had Carroll, Dummett, Forster, Woodman (borderline atm), Armstrong, Longstaff, and going a little further back Shola, Taylor, Ramage, Aaron Hughes, Chopra. While I agree Henderson is the best of the bunch I think we’ve produced more who have been fairly regular PL players compared to them. Is our academy producing far less than it should be? Absolutely but I don’t think theirs is some conveyor belt of talent that warrants them taking the high ground on this topic.

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They have the Loch Ness Drogba tbf.

They have but I don’t really see any signs they will change that, I also don’t see them attracting an Ancelotti level manager that would paper over that and have them finish above 12th. I guess I don’t see this as a blip for them, they’ve been on a downward trajectory for a while now that was slightly slowed at times due to the level of manager they had. They now have a manager who is more in line with their level, it also hasn’t been a fluke under Lampard they weren’t miles better this season under a manager as good as Benitez. I don’t think they have much flow from their academy nowadays tbh, they only have Jonjoe Kenny, Tom Davies, and Anthony Gordon around the first team squad, Kenny is out on loan and 25, and Tom Davies is unregistered. We arguably have more with Dummett, De Bolle, Anderson, and the Longstaffs hanging around the first team squad and our academy has been massively underwhelming. It’s be quite a turnaround for them to come 9th - 12th especially if it’s going to take a really good manager coming in, keeping DCL and Richarlison, and some youth team prospects getting into the side from next season. I also think 9th - 12th would be the bottom end of our target, not that I’d be angry with Howe if that’s where we finish, as we could finish there this season and as Alex pointed out if you take results since Howe arrived we’d be 8th. Clearly taking results since Howe come in is effected by opposition played in that window but we’d also likely have a much improved squad to offset that. It could happen that they suddenly turn everything around and challenge the spots we are targeting but I see it as far more likely they finish bottom half if they do manage to stay up. As like I say I really do not think their squad has much talent/quality in it, they’ve also been weakening through transfers (Myoklenko is a downgrade on Digne for example), and owe a lot of money for Dele Alli which impacts their already shit financial situation.

What a weird fucking thing to go after, I also forgot they had such a glowing track record of youth prospects themselves.

Aye, I also like the “he’s only won 1 match in 4” nowt like cherry picking is there - so when he won 7 in 9 with the other 2 as draws was he Klopp level? Obsessed little wanks. You’d think they actually had a good manager instead of Alex Neil ffs.

Fucking hell This is some Olympic level mental gymnastics on display here. “well marra you might say he’s done well but if they didn’t win those games but actually lost them they’d be close to relegation” ok pal whatever you fucking say. I mean when he puts it that way you can see how a manager who is about to accomplish (iirc) something that has never been done before (stay up despite having 0 wins by December) has in fact been nothing but lucky and is really a shit manager. No wonder that lot hound out managers who have them heading for promotion.

This will be their third season 10th or below (12th, 10th, and wherever they end up this season), that’s with Marco Silva, Carlo Ancelotti, Rafa Benitez, and Frank Lampard as their managers in that time. I always think the quality of their squad is a bit overblown due to the price tags of them. Their defence especially is absolutely shocking. I think due to money issues they’ll probably have to sell Richarlison and/or Calvert Lewin and will probably struggle to attract a similar level replacement, given their financial issues and the direction the club has been heading. I’d like to see them down as it’d be funny, but I don’t see them as competition for us going forward.

Add Daniel Stables to the list. Seems the Cabal got to him, it’s a mystery what they used to convince him as it’s safe to assume he’s a MLF or has a massive soft spot for Sunderland.

Spot on, the way she scrunches her face up when she’s sneering at the lass for having the gall to disagree. The lass did very well but you can see how visibly upset and annoyed she is which speaks volumes about the supposed adults she’s meant to be discussing with. “yeah well you’re wearing clothes and they probably used oil somewhere” Is that not her point dickhead? She’s not coming on to say she has answers she is trying to appeal to those who might.

The “we’re a democracy” point was really well made while she was basically telling someone they had no right to her view as others disagree with her . The weird bit in the middle too where they basically say ‘stop bringing up the facts as we all know them’ and the poor lass just looks confused going but if it’s all known facts then why are you doing fuck all and writing me off? It’s completely shameless like, whatever your views on the topic it’s shambolic.

May have already been posted, but what a cunt Madeley and his little chums are. Getting a young lass onto the show to basically ambush and belittle her. The state of discussion in 2022 sadly, invite someone on that you have a different view from jam your fingers in your ears and scream at them that they’re juvenile and pathetic.

I’m curious how they genuinely think they would fare in the Championship, given how well they’ve done the last few years in League One, that if they did go up it’s likely that they’ll be the 6th place finisher that goes up via playoffs, and have little to no money to spend - I’ve little doubt knowing those factors the mackems will be targeting no less than automatic promotion to the PL.

I suppose Callum has to give his hareem of stray staffy’s something to look at, or they’ll fuck off somewhere nicer like Newton Aycliffe, or Bishop.

Oh aye, to crank up the paranoia on their eyesore of a forum I’ve signed up to it. In the words of perhaps the most famous mackem of all time “I see you are still having no luck catching me”