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Pretty ignorant comment, tbh. I know it's in jest but Howard has done a lot of work to raise awareness of the reality of what Tourettes is like (i.e. not like you're describing).

I'm not all that cut up about it, tbh.

With Hunty it was definately just a yellow!! (he wasn't the last man) Wasn't the last man but it was directly from behind with not even a pretense at going for tha ball.

What a great fucking game! I enjoyed that!

Goal if Keane shoots there.

Should've been red tbh. Still, win some lose some.

Gonna finish 4-3 to them. Keane for one and Berbatov for another.

Beckham went to LA, I'd put odds on about 60% he'll be in New York.

Yep I'd probably agree that the most postive spin would put it somewhere around Championship level.... which again goes back to the question of Beckham moving to the Championship for 125m, would it be for the money or the football. Of course, where would you rather live? California or Burnley?

It's been making a profit for a while now, but lost a phenomenal amount in it's early years. Much of the current profitabilty is down to a recent TV deal, it's gates are still somewhat low (although it's TV, shirts and sponsorship etc. that will be the real money, of course, eventually). I'm not sure what you mean by lower division US sides though? Do you mean non-major league sides (A-league)? I'm afriad I don't pay that much attention who Sunderland lose to. But again, it may well take off and become huge... but it's still a pretty weak league now. The A-League no longer exists; Sunderland has been spanked on several occasions by division 1 sides. And any brand new multi-million dollar venture is going to lose money in its first few years of existence. The TV deal is a result of the league taking a larger market share, not vice versa. Is it a league on par with the Premiership? Of course not. However most people here, even Eurosnobs agree its on par with the Championship and minus Celtic (and sometimes Rangers) would take over the SPL without a problem.

Except of course: He IS only going to sell t-shirts. He will be playing football, but only if you count Sunday League football. And his IQ is without a doubt smaller than mine (smaller than most peoples, and possible some chimps). Hehe after all your UTTER GUFF about the soccer in the USA that I've put you right on? Heh puh-leeze... Do they play different rules a pub league? Are those blokes some how physically different to the human norm? Heh, it may well eventually become a strong league, the USA certainly has the population for it, and at the moment and since 1996 the whole League as really been a venture capital investment from those hoping it will take off and therefore pay off. But presently it is still mickey mouse (I would expect Sunderland to do very, very well in that league). But what is most amusing is that you seem to believe I have some person vendetta against it. If it becomes a strong league, or they win the world cup, good for them (can't see it happening for a good 15+ years however)... that still does NOT change what it IS NOW. Seeing as Sunderland are regularly (comprehensively) beaten by LOWER DIVISION US sides when they come over here, as well as the fact that MLS (Not MSL) has been making money for the last few years shows exactly how much you know about it.

If we're so stupid, how come we had Einstein and Werner von Braun!??! Erm, i'm often one to miss a joke, but those two are German you numpty. Can someone explain the joke to me too please? http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...=3123&st=18

If we're so stupid, how come we had Einstein and Werner von Braun!??!

I think they worded that wrong From The MLS website How so? In the sense it implies he scored in three different world cup finals - as in the final of the final's It doesnt state that clearly enough for the average yank imo Anyone going to the MLS website will know what it means.

"Last year, the MetroStars announced an average attendance of 15,077 for 16 home games. The turnstile average: 9,240. In three home playoff games since 2003, the MetroStars drew an average of 5,466; the club announced an average crowd of 10,494, a 92 percent increase. There was a similar story at Soldier Field, where the Chicago Fire played last season before moving into a new soccer-specific stadium in the suburb of Bridgeview. In the 13 matches for which Soldier Field officials had turnstile counts, the announced crowd was 70 percent higher than the turnstile average of 7,303." Source: San Diego Tribune I sincerely doubt the Galaxy would move from the stadium where they have complete control to another venue save for friedly matches against Mexican teams where they could actually sell out the LA Coloseum or the Rose Bowl.

yes, but LA is really a shit place. I hate all those "I just work in MacDonald's, but my mummy told me I'm special so I've come to LA to become a star" wankers..... In all honesty, I'd much rather live in Newcastle. I hate Los Angeles with a passion bordering on insanity. Every time I go there I remember another reason that I hate it.

He'll be a bust. Both in terms of on-field contribution and financial benefit. Fair enough.

Years ago. When doing promo work for Fox Soccer Channel and others (including his academy thingee) Knob head, should be ashamed of himself. For speaking the local (and, I might add essentially international) language? "soccer" is an English term btw An 'English' term that most English people cringe when they hear it said. The game is called Associated Football, we invented it, so fucking follow the lead. Ally, if they were paying me that money, I'd refer to backheels as heelkicks, shots as nice kicks and all the rest of it. Don't be a pissant, Gemmill. Oh forgot who I was talking to. I'm joking you fucking arsehole. Lighten up. Making jokes about 1970s terminology kinda pisses me off when I'm sick of arguing with Eurosnobs over here, let alone the slime that actually live across the ocean. Damn For'ners.

Personally I think you clearly don't like the bloke, and it's coming across in everything you've got to say about him. I think he's one of the few of the recent England crop that's been genuinely proud to play for and captain his country, and with the exception of that one bottled challenge against Brazil, he's always done his best for them. Won plenty of trophies at Man United an'all. There's plenty players would fucking LOVE to look back on a career like David Beckham's, and yet you think he should look back with embarrassment on it?! £25.6m a year Beckham will earn. He'll probably want to retain his "image rights" as well the greedy cunt. Where's that figure coming from like? I doubt if they're paying him that much that he'll be getting image rights as well, or they'll have no hope of making a profit on him. Where did you come up with the figure though - doesn't sound right, seen as that sounds like more than the big baseball, basketball and NFL players can earn in a year. Reuters, AEG officials, and Talksport. If this is true Beckham will take home after tax, £318,000 a week. I think Beckham will be bigger in America than Best, Pele and Beckenbauer in the 70's, he fits the American ideology of an icon fantastically, good looking, wears pathetic clothes, famous and brain dead Foolish. No one will ever be as big as Pele was for the sport in the USA. He took a semi-pro league outfit and filled stadia to the parking lots* with people wanting to see him. Beckham won't come close to that. Best and Beckenbauer were less well known but Pele and Chinaglia were the shit. *all right, "Car Parks".... fuckers Ridiculous comment. The infrastructure of the world has changed remarkably in the last 30 years, 90% of yanks probably didn't even know Pele existed. Beckham is known by your average yank already, rubbing shoulders with film stars at premiere's etc.. and now he's going there his status will be even higher again. And you would know this how? Again, not quite true. Only an idiot (not that I'm saying you're an idiot) could deny the infrastructure of the world has improved beyond recognition since the 70's. The internet has brought us all "closer together", digital television services, and huge improvements in the telecommunications industry dictate, that people are more aware of the world than they were 30 years ago. Considering some survey concluded only 30% of the yank population knew the 1994 World Cup Finals was actually taking place in their country (during the tournament!), it's safe to say far fewer would've been aware of Pele's existence. MLS gates are steady now, they average about 20,000 now, these were the NASL average gates: Average Attendance 1968: 4,747 1969: 4,699 1970: 2,930 1971: 3,163 1972: 4,159 1973: 4,780 1974: 5,954 1975: 7,770 1976: 7,642 1977: 10,295 1978: 13,558 1979: 13,084 1980: 14,201 1981: 14,084 1982: 13,155 1983: 13,258 1984: 10,759 The highest average New York Cosmos had was 46,000 in an 80,000 capacity stadium, so Pele mania I feel is overstated, I'm sure George Best would've been equally well known over there as Pele was too. I guarantee now when Beckham goes to LA Galaxy there'll be capacity crowds all season. As a player Beckham couldn't wipe Pele's arse, in terms of fame in the US and marketability, Beckham is streets ahead, it's not even a comparison. MLS gates are a joke. 20,000? Closer to 12,000, unless you're talking Kansas City where it's more like 8,000. Pele was a draw at AWAY games, not home games, so bringing up the Cosmo's numbers is a little wide of the mark. ALSO, since the Galaxy capacity is 28,000 and they announce that they had a sell out regardless of actual numbers (since they can legally count the gate receipts for the entire complex for the entire weekend) it's hard to make that argument stick either.

Years ago. When doing promo work for Fox Soccer Channel and others (including his academy thingee) Knob head, should be ashamed of himself. For speaking the local (and, I might add essentially international) language? "soccer" is an English term btw An 'English' term that most English people cringe when they hear it said. The game is called Associated Football, we invented it, so fucking follow the lead. Ally, if they were paying me that money, I'd refer to backheels as heelkicks, shots as nice kicks and all the rest of it. Don't be a pissant, Gemmill. Oh forgot who I was talking to. AAR, there is already a sport called "football" in the USA and there is more money in it than in your "english football" so it's hardly going to be accepted when the USA hasn't converted to the Metric System because it's a 'communist plot.' So take your UN loving, Commu-Nazi agenda and go away!

Better watch out. Uncle Phil (Phil Anschutz of Anschutz Entertainment Group--AEG who own the Galaxy) is a pretty big evangelical Christian.

Personally I think you clearly don't like the bloke, and it's coming across in everything you've got to say about him. I think he's one of the few of the recent England crop that's been genuinely proud to play for and captain his country, and with the exception of that one bottled challenge against Brazil, he's always done his best for them. Won plenty of trophies at Man United an'all. There's plenty players would fucking LOVE to look back on a career like David Beckham's, and yet you think he should look back with embarrassment on it?! £25.6m a year Beckham will earn. He'll probably want to retain his "image rights" as well the greedy cunt. Where's that figure coming from like? I doubt if they're paying him that much that he'll be getting image rights as well, or they'll have no hope of making a profit on him. Where did you come up with the figure though - doesn't sound right, seen as that sounds like more than the big baseball, basketball and NFL players can earn in a year. Reuters, AEG officials, and Talksport. If this is true Beckham will take home after tax, £318,000 a week. I think Beckham will be bigger in America than Best, Pele and Beckenbauer in the 70's, he fits the American ideology of an icon fantastically, good looking, wears pathetic clothes, famous and brain dead Foolish. No one will ever be as big as Pele was for the sport in the USA. He took a semi-pro league outfit and filled stadia to the parking lots* with people wanting to see him. Beckham won't come close to that. Best and Beckenbauer were less well known but Pele and Chinaglia were the shit. *all right, "Car Parks".... fuckers Ridiculous comment. The infrastructure of the world has changed remarkably in the last 30 years, 90% of yanks probably didn't even know Pele existed. Beckham is known by your average yank already, rubbing shoulders with film stars at premiere's etc.. and now he's going there his status will be even higher again. And you would know this how? Beckham is fairly well known over there to be fair, and the clamour for and obsession with glamorous celebs is a lot more now than it was in the 70s. Plus Pele can't get a bonk on. To be fair, it is true that Beckham has more name recognition than Pele did when he signed, however I stand by my earlier comment(s) regarding the relative sizes of their impacts.

Years ago. When doing promo work for Fox Soccer Channel and others (including his academy thingee) Knob head, should be ashamed of himself. For speaking the local (and, I might add essentially international) language? "soccer" is an English term btw

Years ago. When doing promo work for Fox Soccer Channel and others (including his academy thingee)

Personally I think you clearly don't like the bloke, and it's coming across in everything you've got to say about him. I think he's one of the few of the recent England crop that's been genuinely proud to play for and captain his country, and with the exception of that one bottled challenge against Brazil, he's always done his best for them. Won plenty of trophies at Man United an'all. There's plenty players would fucking LOVE to look back on a career like David Beckham's, and yet you think he should look back with embarrassment on it?! £25.6m a year Beckham will earn. He'll probably want to retain his "image rights" as well the greedy cunt. Where's that figure coming from like? I doubt if they're paying him that much that he'll be getting image rights as well, or they'll have no hope of making a profit on him. Where did you come up with the figure though - doesn't sound right, seen as that sounds like more than the big baseball, basketball and NFL players can earn in a year. Reuters, AEG officials, and Talksport. If this is true Beckham will take home after tax, £318,000 a week. I think Beckham will be bigger in America than Best, Pele and Beckenbauer in the 70's, he fits the American ideology of an icon fantastically, good looking, wears pathetic clothes, famous and brain dead Foolish. No one will ever be as big as Pele was for the sport in the USA. He took a semi-pro league outfit and filled stadia to the parking lots* with people wanting to see him. Beckham won't come close to that. Best and Beckenbauer were less well known but Pele and Chinaglia were the shit. *all right, "Car Parks".... fuckers Ridiculous comment. The infrastructure of the world has changed remarkably in the last 30 years, 90% of yanks probably didn't even know Pele existed. Beckham is known by your average yank already, rubbing shoulders with film stars at premiere's etc.. and now he's going there his status will be even higher again. And you would know this how? Again, not quite true.