The Fish

Ps, sorry for hijacking your return thread @Tdansmith

Well, that depends on how far back you want to go, doesn't it?

He's migrated from the mask and 5 litres, to the nasal cannula and 2litres, still hitting 95%. Which is great. He's gonna need to hit 92 without any oxygen, for a sustained period (could be 24hrs) before they let us go home. He's even hitting 95% while asleep which is better than expected.

What has happened to this place? Holden is using statistical analysis? Wykiki is optimistic?

Well, he's still on oxygen, but he's a lot more like himself. Sounds like they'll want him off oxygen for a full 24hrs though, which probably means he'll not be out of here until Friday at the earliest. Im afraid that means my outstanding contributions to this place will be lacking. Gonna need you to step up your funny jokes, data posts and braggadocio. Ta

4 and a bit. Hoping that these antibiotics will clear out his lungs a bit more today so he at least get more restful sleep tonight

Tell you what though, he might be unwell but he's still flirting with the nurses. "Look at all your freckles! They're byoooootiful"

We've been in the paediatric ward since Sunday afternoon. Been pulling the night shift with the little fella. Poor kid can't maintain >92% O2 without the mask. Got some kind of chest infection. He's fucking bored and fed up. She's up a height, feeling guilty about leaving. Got 2hrs kip this afternoon, probably get the same tomorrow.

Your mam won't pay for Sky?

That man took the stage, his towel was swingin'

Halfway there lads and the Guppy is doing ok. Couple of meltdowns, told off a few times, but finally calmed down in front of the Lion King. Same for him.

Welcome back Dan, I'm knackered, had to take the little man to A&E yesterday. He has shallow breathing and GP said his oxygen levels were too low. Was at the hospital from 3 till around 10. Its some kind of viral infection. We have to give him an inhaler every 4hrs, even when he is asleep. So stress, and wake ups means he's all over the shop, the wife is all over the shop, and my normal zenlike state is developing some cracks. Looking forward to a day of kids tv, inhaler battles and arguments with Mrs Fish. If we don't win at Bournemouth whoever started the match thread will be in trouble. So help me god.

Are you so dim, so kamagred out of your gourd that you think the nuances of the situation is lost to people on here? Criticising the actions of the Israeli government is not the same as criticising Jewish people. Just like having sympathy for the Palestinian people is not the same as supporting Hamas.

No. Not at all. Hey, that reminds me, I have some beans for sale, but get this... they're magical!

He has an ego and he doesn't defend. He can get away with being a luxury player in the farmers league, for the annual favourites. 11/13 titles won since their takeover. He wouldn't fare well as part of Eddie Howe's team. Because he doesn't defend, and has an ego. Same reason we shipped off ASM. As soon as his failings outweighed his benefits, he was off.

Don't you ever, EVER, question me again.

There isn't an ounce of that deal that would make sense. Ego, no interest in defending, massive wages, doesn't like the cold.

That's true enough If Dortmund beat Milan, and PSG only get a point from us (even though they have a 100% record at the Parc des Princes). The table would look like; Dortmund 10 PSG 7 Milan 5 NUFC 5 Dortmund would have qualified with a game in hand. PSG just need a point. We'd have to beat Milan, and Milan would have to beat us to be in with a shout of qualification. Who would we have back by 13th Dec?

I'm not sure we do. I don't think we will beat PSG in Paris, and even if we beat Milan, we'd be on 7pts, behind PSG and Dortmund (on head to heads).

Look, we're not going to win the Champions League this season. I wouldn't even be too optimistic about our chances in the Europa. I do think we can win the League Cup, or the FA Cup, and I do think we can qualify for the Champions League in 2024/25 where I'd hope that; we have more quality in the first team we have more strength in depth our players would be more experienced in that competition we wouldn't get such a brutal group We weren't expecting to get Champions League football so soon, and our squad reflects that. Our first team is strong enough to compete for European spots, to progress in the domestic cups and that's about it. We're not yet in a position to get very far in the Champions League. My expectations for the CL before the draw was made was maybe get out of the group, then when the draw happened I just wanted not to be humiliated. If we now finish 4th, I'm fine with that. We haven't looked terrible, we haven't lost heavily, everything has been pretty fine margins but the experience and quality of the opponents told. Experience and quality that they've accrued over years and years in the Champions League. It's been amazing seeing some famous clubs come up against our lads, I've enjoyed each match. So much so I want to do it all again. We've a better chance of doing that if we're not stretching an already stretched squad to breaking point. I don't want to finish 4th, but I wouldn't be upset if we did. Were we to qualify for next season I'd raise my expectations to getting out of the group and like some of you suggest, if we do that, who knows how far we could go? I'd fancy us against pretty much anyone at St James'.

I wonder if, had he'd stayed, Keegan could have sorted him out a bit more? Maybe that's too much of a stretch even for that magician. Honestly, if it wasn't for the move to Newcastle, I don't think anybody would have heard of him. Just another waste of talent. Similar stories happen all the time, but without a 'big club' elevating them into the limelight they go untold. Ranger could have carved out a good professional career, maybe as high up the pyramid as the Championship for a while, but there's clearly something askew within him. Hanging about with the wrong crowd is one thing, but given he's played all over the shop he's had plenty of opportunities to put his past behind him. If that quote from his mam is true, she'd not done enough to put the fear of God in him, imo. ‘Listen, we had a blast, no matter what’ sounds to me like someone who wants to be mates, not a parent. I've no sympathy for him, not when there's kids with as much to offer professional football who've not had one chance, let alone the 6 or 7 he's had. Fuck him.

I understand all that and perhaps Man City was a poor example. I just meant that I understand why this rule could make sense. What would stop an ownership group with the wealth of an oil state behind them circumventing rules about wages or transfer fees by spreading the costs over 5 or more clubs. In theory Man City have a giant pool of talent they could pull from. 12 clubs in City Group, with I've no idea how many players at each. Some in countries without FFP rules to restrict them. Theoretically Mumbai City FC could 'sign' a player on huge wages and immediately loan them to Man City, thus circumventing FFP and spreading wage costs. Is that really in the spirit of the sport? I agree that FFP is less about ensuring responsible club ownership and more about ringfencing the established elite, but this new vote isn't about FFP, not really. This proposed change to the rules is about other clubs trying to handicap us when we're struggling. If the shoe were on the other foot, if Man City were 12 players down and hadn't the depth throughout their youth squads to support the first team, how would you react to them lifting a erstwhile Premier League player from a UAE state owned team to help them out of the jam?

It's frustrating that this has been looked at purely to stymie us (and make no mistake if we didn't have a stack of injuries this would never even have been considered) but, objectively I've no problem with backdoors for bigger clubs being shut. We'd be justifiably annoyed if Man City were crippled with injuries and they loaned players from a newly opulent state backed UAE League, wouldn't we?