The Fish

Crystal Palace have just spent £14m on Sunderland's 2nd top goal scorer. Patrick van Aanholt. Allardyce has just spent more on an ok left back, than Sunderland have on anybody, in their history.

Really enjoyed Hacksaw Ridge, quite often saw the actor rather than the character though. Garfield was all right, Vaughan was amusing, Weaving was decent, but the performances on the whole were straight out of a 2nd tier tv crime drama. The battle scenes were incredible and while it leant heavily towards Hollywood at the end I think the majority of those combat scenes were as jarring and uncomfortable as SPR.

What's that then?

I think they're impressing and will likely be in a strong position in the Play Offs, but the lead Brighton and Newcastle have built is too big to see another club nab an automatic spot from either of us, without a shocking loss of form.

Reported.

Nice that when he asked for directions, they all sent him the wrong way

Or people had to vote for policies, unaware of the party that has submitted them. If the populous had the wherewithal to see through that obvious obfuscation that pool wouldn't be permitted to stagnate as often or as quickly.

fuck off man, she's real and everything. Martin's met her.

You're sassy this morning. Espresso enema?

Churchill said Democracy is the worst form of government apart from all the others. I think democracy is brilliant if everyone is playing by the rules, but they aren't, so it's horseshit. Democracy works if the populous are voting after consideration and for the betterment of society and themselves, but they aren't. I love my better half and she's intelligent and all the rest of it, but she votes Tory because she always has. My sisters vote Labour because they always have and that's what my Dad votes. Drives me mad.

Churchill said it better than me, but yeah.

No, I'm not saying they consider something unfair and support it anyway, I'm saying they don't consider it. They frankly don't give a shit that the overwhelming majority of muslims are not bomb wielding lunatics, they couldn't give a shit that foreign aid can actually provide jobs and customers for domestic companies, they couldn't give a shit about a whole heap of stuff. Certainly not enough to learn more than what the commercial news station that pushes their political party's agenda is telling them. Generally the voting public are wilfully ignorant, reactionary arseholes and shouldn't decide what happens to a country any more than the weaselling dickheads they vote into power to represent them.

Absolutely, also I think his understanding of the game means he could be a decent coach/manager in the future. Mind you some cracking players who read the game well have utterly failed at management, so what the fuck do I know?

I dunno, I was told that the pizzas from Franco Manca are "class" and that means a lot to me.

I'm not sure people have voted in support f a sense of fairness or reason. They may claim that, but it's just not true. They've voted (on the whole) because the angry orange man, or the smug white woman said a thing that elicited a visceral reaction. There isn't reason applied to the vote, as you say it's identity politics. If you were to ask Jimbob Mcgraw of Wichita, Texas to explain the reasoning behind his vote he'd recite some phrase he heard on FOX News, or a soundbite from Trump, then after a little prodding the intolerance would come out. Same as if you asked some office worker from Maryland why they voted for Hillary. CNN/Clinton quote then intolerance of the right. The people who regularly post in this thread are significantly more invested and informed than the overwhelming majority and while that's laudable I don't think it's realistic to suggest people have voted for what is fair or reasonable in their eyes. I honestly don't believe they don't care what is fair and I don't believe they've considered it beyond a gut reaction.

These people aren't looking for a reasoned exchange of ideas man, they want to repeat soundbites, loudly and often, shouting down any attempts to have actual discourse. Trump is their standard bearer, is he really putting arguments forward? No, of course not, he's widening his maw so that more ill-conceived reactionary petulance can spew forth. I'd love to see actual debates, but that frankly just isn't going to happen, because those in power don't want it. They don't want the veil lifted, the puppets that are tossed in front of the camera lens are there to repeat the phrases they've been taught and need not back them up with anything because the public's attention has moved on already. Even if Spencer or Conway lose their job, they can pick one of a thousand others to do the exact same thing, Hell even if Trump is impeached, the right have so comprehensively embarrassed the left that Pence would be sworn in and wreak as much havoc as Trump, probably with more malice. You have to give the right credit, they've successfully neutered the media and the left by deciding not to play by the rules any more.

fwlim we won and are officially (not officially) the best fans in the country.

Especially if that 6th placed team is Sheffield Wednesday. Jesus, they were fuming on Twitter last night because of an internet poll, run by SoccerAM, on a wednesday night, imagine the fewm if they're robbed* of a promotion. *it'd have to have been a conspiracy as there's no chance the biggest club in the league could miss out on promotion if everything is equal.

What's a numbty?

Had a brilliant career for a man who's a bit shit. Seems to have fooled some cracking managers too.

Said it before, but he's a true utility player who can do a job for a top half team in most positions (right back, all across the midfield, in the hole, maybe as a false nine?), but obviously not as good as a top-half specialist in any one position. He's often praised for carrying out the manager's instructions to a tee, and that must be valuable. The knowledge that if you've planned for Milner to be a right sided midfielder, then the left winger gets crocked and you've not got a substitute, or the system you started with isn't working so you need to shift to 3 in midfield, etc. You know he can perform at a high standard in whatever position you ask of him. Also helps that he's a model professional and seems well respected by the other players too. Perhaps he seems over-rated because he's been under-rated for a lot of his career and now people are praising him its seems over-the-top?

Gayle didn't get games for Palace.

Yeah, I'd rather Sels went out on loan and we rotated Elliot and Darlow (never thought I'd say that). The former needs confidence that he just won't get here and the latter needs coaxing back to fitness.

didn't even read that.

Bow to the king