The Fish

How does it feel Wolfy, when your world crumbles around you? How does it feel when FISHAMANIA RUNS WILD OVER YOU?!

You said that size did matter beforehand. Now it doesn't?

Congrats Mrs T. Get her indoctrinating the little beggars into the global conspiracies asap!

What a hero.

You aren't accounting for size.

It'll take a new owner, realistically. Every new manager comes into a club with no good players* and no money to buy some. *after the exodus

The other lads on the podcast think I'm overly harsh on the lad, but he's totally wasted something I'd honestly have done some pretty fucked up shit to be blessed with. Bit of pace, bit of strength, decent finish, decent touch. He could have played professional football, if not in the top flight then certainly at Championship level. Earn, what, £15k a week? Plus all the bonuses that come with contracts, all the sponsors, all the freebies, all the glory, retire on a nest egg at 34, go into management or punditry, or just live off the money your property portfolio provides. And what's the dickhead done? Got himself banged up for trying to defraud someone out of a couple of grand.

Hang on, we weren't relegated because Mitrovic only scored 9 goals in a shit team. We were relegated because we had a poorly coached, poorly motivated and poorly constructed squad. Judge on his own successes and failures. 1st season, 9 goals in a relegated side managed by an idiot. 2nd season didn't take the limited opportunities he had and looked ill-disciplined as he tried to, but very much not the kind of striker the current manager likes to use (big powerful headerer vs nippy mobile pest) I see him as a not-yet-failed signing. If he isn't played, scores 4-5 and looks like a headless chicken whenever he crosses the white line we'll be wise to get shot and accept that we'll not make any money. If he scores 9 next year and we finish 12th he'll have repaid some the c£15m we've spent and should he do that and attract suitors, he'll certainly fetch a decent price because of his age, his experience and his previously decent goal scoring feats. Bournemouth already have a decent striker in King, they need to add a different option, they need to buy a statement player too. If they can get Batshuayi on loan, Sturridge? Maybe even Carroll? Sturridge is a risk because of his attitude and his streaky form, Carroll a risk because of his injury record.

Football season is over innit. You just don't like it because he's making you, as our resident "free thinker" look silly by association.

Nobody has any problem with you questioning the official story, it's your abandonment of your own standards when it comes to your theory. You aren't grasping large objects. Water droplets will sit proud from a surface, but go see if a bathtub of water will sit proud outside of the container, or a bucket, or a thimble sized hotel glass. It won't, yet we understand that viscosity of water permits it to act differently given the amount of water observed. Similarly large objects (a planet) have properties that are significantly different to smaller objects (football) Obviously because conduction and convection are more efficient methods of transferring internal energy within earth's atmosphere. We don't "need" fans, they're just better for the circumstances. Just like you don't "need" trains to get from A to B, they're just more efficient.

Cool cool cool, but you didn't answer my question. You just said how wonderfully open minded you are and how everyone else is just happy to go along with the status quo, because they're not dead brave like you are. So I'll ask again, if you refute the status quo because you don't believe the evidence and proof. Why do you believe your own theory when you've no evidence or proof? For a theory to be considered acceptable it must be proven or at least supported by evidence, you admit this is the cornerstone of your dissension. You don't believe the proof, nor the evidence, so you cannot accept the theory. Your theory isn't proven nor is it supported by any evidence, so by your own logic, you must also refute this theory.

That's not what Occam's Razor means. I've shown you liquid surrounding a sphere. You're hypothesis relies on many more assumptions than mine.

Just curious @wolfy, you reject the status quo because you don't believe the proof, right? Yet you believe your own hypothesis without any proof. Why? Bear in mind saying "It just makes logical sense" is not a good enough answer as it fundamentally doesn't.

I mean, this is just staggering arrogance right here. "Oh you all may think you're clever, but I'm actually the only clever one because I made some shit up."It's just fascinating to me that someone can be so deluded. Have you ever heard of Occam's razor? Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Your hypotheses are solely assumptions, the competing hypotheses have some assumptions, but also have empirical or anecdotal evidence.

I'm being hugely presumptuous, but I just can't imagine Kevin Phillips being much cop as a manager.

Fair points, but that's an awfully big chunk of money for Defoe that you'll never see again. I mean, Riviere and Mitrovic were bought and despite the former's failure we'll still probably get some money back for him. I'm not as harsh on Mitrovic as a big portion of the fanbase so I'd not be surprised if he does ok in the Premier League or we get a big chunk of our money back. Just think there are better options for Bournemouth out there who would be on smaller wages and while they'd come with a transfer fee, there's an opportunity to reclaim some of that from a future sale.

Wolfy seems to think that if any of the official story is suspect (the 9/11 atrocity e.g.) all of the official story must be suspect. It seems that he believes if the masses believe thousands of innocent victims died, the masses also must believe the official story about the agents of that atrocity. He seems to believe that if you agree the world is a globe, that gravity exists, that space is real, you're only doing so because you haven't challenged the status quo. Now, I'm fairly certain the overwhelming majority of us on here were right ornery shits at school. Challenging the teachers, seeking knowledge for ourselves and when all evidence (empirical and otherwise) supports the claims, we have the wherewithal to accept the reasoning for that particular instance. E.G. Parky has often spoken about chemtrails and the dangers of them, he's no doubt researched it, read conflicting reports, put the two sides together with his own interpretation and come up with his own answer. Most (if not all) of the rest of us thinks that's lunacy. He has, however, put his case across with clarity (on the whole), with articles, with videos, with argument, all of which stand up to scrutiny (to a point for me). We all question the official line, some more than others, so the arrogance to say we're blindly following while you're some kind of free thinker is staggering, and then to have nothing to back it up with is horseshit.

He'd be a hugely risky appointment for a club of their size. He should do what Nolan's done. Small club, low expectations, so if he flops his long term ambitions aren't banjaxed. If Phillips goes from Assistant Manager at Derby to manager of Sunderland that's a hell of a step up. Huge pressure, anything less than promotion is a bad season for them. Allardyce would be perfect, but I can't imagine he'd go back when they're so publicly fucked.

Just think 3yrs is a risk. He's been decent for Sunderland, but hasn't scored much since his England call up. He's not a Big Lump who you bring on to close out a game, he's a poacher. Much like the T-Rex's vision, his game's based on movement. One hamstring injury, one turned ankle will have him out the game for a while and he'll be poorer on his return, and both of those injuries are more likely now he's basically an old man.

Yeah it's getting boring now. He's not creative enough with his wummery.

What a Nobber

You think he's got 3 seasons left in him?

With 1yr left on his contract, I wonder how much Barkley will eventually go for?

All this criticism seems fair enough, but it's definitely not going to be his fault.