The Fish

To be fair I reckon there'll be plenty of dickheads in every team's fanbase, dickhead Everton fans who think Liverpool are shit, Klopp is terrible and Coutinho is over rated. The trouble Sunderland have is that so many gauge their team's success and failure by comparing it to ours. Allardyce is widely lauded on Wearside, but I guarantee had we comfortably survived* he would be viewed much less favourably. He had much of the season and barely dragged them to safety, and has left them with a pretty shocking squad. It didn't really matter how they fared in the league as long as they beat us and when they had a manager who had them comfortably midtable they weren't happy because his record against us was poor. Flip that and while our support might enjoy their struggles, and will happily laud it over them, none of us were happy to be in a relegation fight even when we finished above them. That might be arrogance on our part, but I honestly don't think their ups and downs matter as much to us and ours do for them. We judge ourselves against clubs we think we can compete with, those teams may change given our situation, but it's more likely to be Spurs, Everton, and latterly Stoke, West Brom and Southampton, than it is Sunderland AFC. This season we'd be happy to finish 14th, regardless of where Sunderland finish or what league they're in. That we could treat the Championship as a fucking spa weekend, must absolutely kill them. *which I think we would have had Benitez come in earlier, or had we had someone better than McClaren for the majority of the season

Sheffield derby poised at Shef Wed 1-2 Shef Utd at half time. Hoping for ructions in the second half.

Colour me suspicious.

He'll be trying to but missing by some distance.

I think you can find it on KODI, but I'm not sure.

There's one on there who maintains that he'd still rather have Grayson than Benitez if it was a straight choice.

That's a classic clip to be fair.

I think you'll find that;

I'd be devastated if I was going with that as well to be fair. Nice that the lesbian aunt behind them has taken her nephews out to the game though.

They have some shite in their team, but so do 5 or 6 other teams at the bottom of that league. I'd enjoy a second relegation for them if for no other reason than it highlights what an excellent job Benitez did last season, and Hughton and Wagner. It's remarkable that their fans are deserting matchday given the consensus was that they were fiercely loyal despite years of shit. Turns out when the going really gets rough they sack it off. 18,000 under capacity , on average, after 5 home games according to transfermarkt.co.uk. Can only see that finding a plateau around 20-22k if things don't improve dramatically. Which will in turn impact their finances. No big tv deal, half empty stadium, finances fucked already, rumours of administration... Do they own their stadium? Their Academy of Light? How do they plug that money hole?

Did you convert her after?

Quality, congrats! Which matches?

Nope, they're missing out on £100m from the Premier League money, they get a bit of a parachute payment, but that will barely cover their wages, if it does at all. Re: going down without a points deduction, Grayson's sides tend to start slowly, but then he'll go on a bit of run. They might go down with or without any points deduction, but I think it's more likely they'll get sufficient points to stay up ahead of teams like Barnsley, Birmingham, Bolton, Burton etc.

Didn't win that daft acca, but my Premier League acca came in. Burnley & Huddersfield to draw, Chelsea, Everton, Man City, Man Utd and Spurs to win. Would have won £130, but cashed out for £62 because Southampton were hammering at Man Utd's door and I couldn't trust Burnley and Huddersfield to keep each other out. Also had a bet on Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Spurs to win by -2, so Man Utd and Spurs are cunts.

After their previous loss I think a long standing record was broken (5 losses and no goals) so I think with every loss they make their own record harder to beat.

If they go into administration will the points be deducted from this season, or next? If it's this season then yes, they most likely will go down. They get a -10pt penalty and continue on their Ppg, they'll end up on around 28pts. Rotherham managed 23pts and Blackburn were relegated on 51pts. Leeds were relegated on 36pts after their 10pt deduction.

No way would this story have come out if we were 15th in the league. He's hoping some Billionaire Oil-baron isn't paying a lot of attention and will put in a bid around his asking price now, before we slip down the table.

I like seeing Sunderland's arsehole fans getting their comeuppance, I enjoy our local rivals having a torrid time. But a North East club of their size being in the bottom three of the 2nd tier is a bit shit. My mackem mates would have a laugh at our expense when we went down, but after that initial bit of stick we could have a proper chat about football and they sympathised with our plight. I'll do the same for them. But their arsehole fans, the lads with "1-9 FTM" in their sigs, or the ones who insist Benitez is a shit coach, or the ones who define their support of Sunderland by how often and how loudly they declare their hatred of Newcastle United, those ones can fucking rot in League 1 in perpetuity. fwiw I don't think they'll go down.

Have we, have you evidence for that? Not empirical, anecdotal or otherwise, but actual evidence.

I miss Bobby Shinton.

Bit of a daft Acca Fixture Result Odds Stake £2.5 Swansea Watford Draw 2.30 £ 8.25 Bolton Brentford Draw 2.60 £ 29.70 Derby Win 0.73 £ 51.30 Leeds Win 0.57 £ 80.61 Norwich Win 0.91 £ 153.90 Cardiff Win 1.50 £ 384.75 Wolves Win 0.40 £ 538.65 QPR Win 0.73 £ 930.40 Charlton Win 0.67 £ 1,550.66 Reading Hull Draw 2.30 £ 5,117.18 Preston Win 1.00 £ 10,234.35 Fulham Middlesbrough Draw 2.30 £ 33,773.36 Rochdale Win 0.62 £ 54,556.96 Luton Win 0.44 £ 78,804.50 £ 78,804.50 But it's very much an acca built for cashing out at half time for £20

Hailo, Gett

Not sure the increase in prices will filter down to the drivers to be honest.

Berb, is that you?

and as prices rise, punters will return to/rely on mini cabs firms like Addison Lee and Keen Group, or black cabs. Especially as the latter now have reliable apps like Hailo and Gett, which mean you can have one come to your house and pick you up, rather than having to flag one down or find a taxi rank.