The Fish

What kind of gap-tooth, backwater, hill billy, redneck, clodhopping yokel doesn't have an Audible subscription?

To be honest, if I had his physique, I'd find any excuse to rip shirts off to impress the females.

Yeah like Toonpack says, the Dems still play by the rules. Even the bloke in the clip above is trying to be measured and reasonable in his responses, Trump won't. He'll ramble and bluster, interrupt, shout down, non-sequitur and outright lie if he's ever made to answer questions the likes of which that senator was. You saw it with Hillary, she tried to be calm and stateman-like. Trump was just a demagogue.

£7.99 on audiobook now?

Some decent pubs, good beach, chippy is all right. Got a Crown Green Bowls... field? Pitch?

We've been over this. I'm from Seaton Sluice, Northumberland's sub-premium retirement enclave.

Right, so a 43yr old man from Seaton Delaval should fucking know it and not be acting the damn fool.

It's an entirely typical kind of statement from a new exec/manager. He said similar kinds of fanbase-appeasing bullshit when he joined us. I bet he would have said similar at Brighton too. Don't let it bother you.

Right, settle an argument. Glakey is a common term, isn't it?

Buoyed to pier pressure

Imagine the state of the bogs.

Absolutely, and that's kind of my point, when we're happy to arm Saudi Arabia, or (I'm sure ) Israel and probably equally unscrupulous regimes, it's a little ridiculous for us to hop on top of a high horse with our frills in our fists. If it's a show of morality you're after, you're going to be sorely disappointed. Nobody is voting one way or another for pure reasons, it's all self serving theatre,. Either for the folks back home, or their counterparts on the global stage. In short, everyone is awful.

Are those your nicknames for Burn and Longstaff? Or is "Longstaff Burn" the name of the STD?

No but the power that may be withheld from or wielded against a politician for angering the (pro-Israel) Jewish lobby may not be enough of a concern for Macron to speak out against Israel's actions. Maybe I'm cynical but I view the positions held by China and Russia to be more "The friend of my enemy is my enemy" kind of thing. Think about the atrocities carried out by those two and the sheer effrontery to condemn Israel for doing similar? The utter hypocrisy for Russia, in the midst of their illegal and horrific invasion of Ukraine, to pearl clutch about Israel is staggering.

Had to google him. Now I'm in 7 rooms of gloom.

121 sounds like a lot, but when you look at the list, the overwhelming majority of those countries are not exactly what you'd call major players on the global scene. And while the UK 'bravely' abstained so did 22 other countries including Germany, Italy and the Dutch. I'd also suggest that the UN calling for a ceasefire has little power over Netanyahu. I think opinion has shifted because the US has finally got enough polling data in favour of a ceasefire to correct the course. I don't think morality has as much to do with it as you'd hope.

I don't think you can compare genocide with Brexit. Even just as a "thing rational people don't want". I mean, when is the right time for the sitting President to speak out against one of it's closest international allies, especially one which exists in an area where the US has very few friends. I don't think us calling out the barbarism is the same as the US President doing it at all. I mean, look how long it took the international community to speak out against it? And they don't all have as much invested in a strong Israel as the States do. It's too unrealistic to expect Joe Biden (or any leader) to say this conflict is wrong. It shouldn't be, but it is.

It's not, like. Lannister unleashed Clegane with the express instruction to sow terror. The US didn't instruct Israel to bomb hospitals or target civilians. Israel needs no instruction or encouragement to be the aggressor. And lets not paint Hamas as an innocent party in this either. They knew there would be retribution for their attack, and they have only slightly more regard for the Palestinian lives than the Israeli forces.

You're an idealist Rayvin, I like that about you. We don't know how much pressure the US was putting on Israel behind the scenes, we don't know how hard Biden was fighting with the rest of the decision makers. We don't know anything really, just what plays out in public, which I'm sure you know is far from what's actually playing out in private.

It'd be tough to name a global leader who wasn't.