The Fish

Aye, the market is mental these days. Some decidedly average players going for three times what we paid for Cabaye. Ashley is still expecting to unearth those kinds of bargains, at those kinds of prices, but football has moved on and because he's refused to invest in the youth set up properly, we have to buy players, instead of producing our own. Either to sell to fund purchases, or play ourselves.

Put simply it's down to Education, or the lack thereof.

Probably my favourite away day. Not sad to see them gone though.

I can't think of any chubby actors getting romantic roles, I mean apart from nigh on every American sitcom, Ricky Gervais, Jack Black, Kevin James, Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill, Will Ferrell (harsh?). Unless he means straight romantic roles, rather than romcoms? In which case, I'd say it was his total inability to act that stops him getting the job, rather than his double chin.

Milivojevic to score at any time is 5/1 Good news that Sakho is out, he's been one of their better players. Could do with Zaha picking up a knock tomorrow night against Spurs, and Wan Bissaka too.

Think diame and Hayden were played because they're more defensively minded than those two, and against a mobile creative team like Arsenal the plan was surely to bog things down a bit. That said, with the high line they were playing, it was crying out for balls over the top for Almiron or even Yedlin to chase onto. And Hayden and Diame are not reliable at that side of the game. Mental, but I think Longstaff would have been my 1st pick had he been fit for this game. He has more energy than Diame, more bothered about defending than Shelvey and he can pick a pass. Never expected anything from this game, we're shite at Arsenal and they're much much better than us. We'd needed to have been at our best and Arsenal to have an off game to get anything and we weren't and they didn't. Crystal Palace is a very different problem though.

I agree that the populace need educating. I disagree that we give them a national platform for their extreme views.

Not censorship, just not courting controversy for controversy's sake. Educating people is great, and worthy and has value. Giving Tommy Robinson credence by giving him a platform is not educating people. I maintain that this country is, by and large, centrist. They may feel ignored by the political class, but they're not fascists and bigots. It's an abject failure of the political parties to appeal to this huge block of voters with time consuming and difficult education, and instead seek to prey on the anger because it's easy and the repercussions are for the next lot to deal with.

I find fault with your logic. Giving these people a platform has exacerbated the problem, rather than dealing with it. You invite equally extreme views to find fertile ground, rather than starving it of the oxygen it needs to grow. Had Farage and his ilk been given the proportionate coverage that his position deserves would have seen a much different topic for the political discussion to focus on. Had they been given a similar platform that the green party enjoy, we wouldn't have had a referendum. Nobody gave a shit about the EU before Newsnight, Question Time, the Mail and that lot gave platforms to the far right.

I want them disregarded by everyone as the howl at the moon, end is nigh, aliens done probed ma bee-hind, lunatics that they are.

jinx

Then they'd be pathetic racist cunts.

I can't remember the last time I saw anyone with eyes as spangled as that.

Steals pets and kills them https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down

What was the goal here CT?

If Burnley beat Wolves and Huddersfield lose at Crystal Palace, the Terriers are down. Joint fastest relegation with Derby in 07/08. Fulham will take another one of the relegation spots, but the final one could be any of 3 clubs really. Cardiff will be favourites, no doubt. They're not very good, they've got a tough run in (including Che, Man City, Liv and Man Utd) and are currently in the bottom 3. Reckon they'll get 4-6pts from the last 7? End up on 32-35pts Burnley have been shit this year, even if you just look at stats. Only Cardiff have a greater Long Ball %, only Fulham have conceded more and only Fulham have given up more good chances (xGA). Away from Nerdville they're one of the worst teams we've faced. Clogging shite and while Dyche deserves plaudits for getting them into Europe, he doesn't look like he's capable of getting them playing anything but long ball shit. Wouldn't shed a tear if they went down again. They've got a tough run in, their only "easy" home game is Cardiff and they face; Wolves, Bournemouth, Cardiff, Chelsea, Man City, Everton and Arsenal. Probably get 5-7pts? End up on 35-37pts Southampton are only 2pts ahead of Cardiff, but have a pretty straight forward run in. Only really facing 1 team that's got anything to play for. I'd expect them to pull away, after they've put the Liverpool game behind them. It is of course possible that they drop points at Brighton, lose at home to both Liverpool and Wolves, then come into the game at St James' park still in the mire. 5-8pts? End up on 35-38pts Brighton and Palace will be fine, and we've got a gentle run in so should be dandy too.

Has to be points deduction or expulsion from competition. Fans don't really care about financial punishment, and most clubs can easily pay the pathetic fines. If Galatasaray are booted out of the Champions League because some of their fans act the cunt, then the club (and the fans) will sharp take it seriously. I don't understand what's stopping FIFA and UEFA putting those sanctions in place? What's the downside for them?

Watching the Netflix thing shows just how toxic that place was. Looks like they'll be around the play off spots, which is surely an indication that they're not being terrifically well run: With the money they had they could and should have overhauled the club. Instead, they're still relying on Lee fucking Cattermole. Last two seasons they've sold their top goal scorers midway through the season. Which, when you're gunning for promotion/survival, is bonkers. A quick look at the table shows they're good defensively, but pretty shit up front. If they don't get promoted, which is entirely possible, their next step will have to be further cost cutting, which further limits their ability to compete at the upper reaches of the 3rd division.

Almiron turning round to ask why the whistle's been blown is my new favourite thing.

What formation are you using? I started with 3-4-2-1 with wing backs, then to a 4-3-3, now to a 4-2-3-1

Did you think any of that answered any of the points I made? I couldn't give a shit if you were centre right, centre left, or Metrocentre. You're a contrarian. You speak with the confidence of a stupid person. Your broad strokes about "younger left wing" people just highlights this. You're getting as bad as Leazes was. Oh and you haven't shown where I claimed that the "Tory government was going to lead to unemployment rising by millions"? What I did say, was that you and your ilk would blame everybody else for this shitshow, before you turned the focus on yourselves or the team you've picked.

Guarantee he doesn't understand Dunning Kruger either. Well, he'll think he understands it fully, which is how I like my irony served on a Friday.

It's two words. I'm happy to debate, but I think talking with you about politics is akin to talking to Wolfy about his theories. You dismiss evidence that counters your claims, you use wooly language to leave yourself a get out of jail free option and you rely on logical fallacies. I did? Can you show me where I said that a "Tory government was going to lead to unemployment rising by millions"? Thing is, CT, I think that deep down, you're an all right bloke. You are a family man, don't take yourself too seriously and have a childlike enthusiasm for new things. However your online persona is that of a contrarian. Which is fine when it's thought provoking, but yours is not. Yours is to provoke a reaction. The Conservatives have brought this country to its current state, but I see you defending them to the hilt more often than not. You even declared Cameron as the best prime minister in your lifetime. Cameron, the same pig-fucker that announced a referendum on Europe as a way to willy wave. Your faith in Brexit is born not of evidenced facts, but cheerleading for the Conservatives. It's fucking pathetic. Your kids aren't going to have the freedoms we've enjoyed, they won't necessarily have the protections we've enjoyed, they face a period of massive unrest and difficulties because their father and his ilk have made decisions on things they couldn't hope to fully comprehend. And I'm sure, when they ask you, you'll tell them it's Labour's fault and pop another slice of pigeon pizza in your mush.

Fat thumbed fuck probably mistyped it and ended up watching 2hrs of scientology guff.

It's not the middle class knowing better, it's the people who know enough to not claim they know everything, knowing better than the likes of you. People who think all that they know, is all one needs to know. Did you google Dunning Kruger? Simply put, you don't even know enough to know you know fuck all. I do care about job creation, which is why I don't simply take Government top line stats and instead I take a moment to ask; how many of those jobs are paying a living wage, why does 1hr a week class as a "job"? Are these jobs sustainable? Why are so many companies taking measures to move away from England due to a Tory party pissing contest that went catastrophically wrong? Oh and I'm not on Labour's team, so criticising them doesn't bother me in the slightest. But that's another very you thing, isn't it? Whattaboutery.