The Fish
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Well, they look very similar. I take your point, Liberal ≠ Left-Wing. But I'd say this isn't even a liberal conspiracy, or coordinated move. This is a private company doing what's best for their brand (and bottom line), and the others jumping on board before the "WE'RE NOT A NAZI SYMPATHISER" train leaves the station. @Rayvin Re: Parler, they're not a big enough fish to matter. Anway, they're beholden to the bigger tech providers, and their raison d'etre is to provide a right-wing alternative to open platforms like facebook and twitter etc. Now, if those two are too commie pinko hippy dippy for you, I'd suggest you're far enough to the right of the political spectrum that your views and intolerances are offensive and probably actionable. What I'm trying to say is that without the Proud Boys and MAGA-loons, Parler wouldn't have a customer base. They couldn't ban them and have much of a platform left.
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If me and Scott agree on something, it pretty much has to be taken as gospel.
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Guilt by association and a low-risk gain for them. Yes, Twitter and Facebook are on the front line, but while they're getting, rightly, criticised, the three you mention can appear morally superior by taking action they likely would have had to at some point. I think you're looking for some left-wing conspiracy when, if the last decade has shown us anything, the left can't organise themselves let alone impose influence on others. If this was some Big Tech coordinated attack, why not do it under Obama? Attack those fringe right-wing groups in their infancy and lock in a friendly government for a few more years at least?
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Annnnd there it is.
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This is exactly what I think happened. I saw something somewhere that claimed something like 67% of the people who'd joined extreme groups on facebook had been directed there by the algorithm. They're complicit in this as they chased the green. Trump and his ilk have been radicalising with impunity and, like KD said, if it had been an Islamic fundamentalist there'd have been hell on. I honestly think Facebook and the rest thought it was fine because they didn't believe an insurrection was possible and the risk was worth the reward.
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I'm so conditioned by this place to interpret everything a certain way, I'm fully expecting the other shoe to drop any second.
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I also think we disagree on why the big tech firms have done it.
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What they want is some tapas.
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It's good to have support like this. Genuinely, having the podcast is a massive help. Not only talking to my mates with a couple of cans, but also the catharsis of slating Bruce and his shit football. The little lad is a big help as well, don't have the luxury of sacking off my responsibilities when he's around. His shitty arse needs wiping whether I'm feeling sad or not.
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Better for their brand and bottom line to take action now, than wait for possibly tighter restrictions imposed upon them by a Democrat President, House & Senate. Like a pub clamping down on under-age drinking before the rozzers shut it down. I don't, for a second, believe these platforms have suddenly grown a social conscience. Of course the Nazis are whining that they've been silenced, they honestly believe 'Free Speech' is something that it isn't. They believe it's their right to incite violence, or espouse hateful positions with impunity. Those on the left worried about this need to grow a fucking pair. If Anarcists and Marxists start storming the government buildings and subsequently have their facebook profile taken down, good.
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Echo what other have said, talking always helps. Even if it's just to strangers on a message board. Even if you type it all out and throw it into the void. I've dealt with anxiety and depression* for 20yrs and through everything, the one thing that's helped most, (more than breathing exercises, good diet, getting outside, etc. ) is talking. I've been really struggling during the lockdown, but talking about what I'm feeling, admitting the frankly terrifying thoughts that I've endured, is the thing that helps the most. *and during my latest assessment signs of OCD, which was novel.
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I don't think they're closing out the right, they're closing out the far-right. I think this action is that of a responsible service provider. The accounts they've blocked aren't fiscally conservative, championing small business and reduction in goverment overreach, they're using the platform to spread misinformation and incite violent acts against protected groups. I don't believe that Facebook is a left-leaning provider, Zuckerberg strikes me as true a capitalist as there can be. The idea that they've been waiting for an opportunity to shut down these groups is counter to them prevaricating while dodging earlier opportunities. They had, in Obama, the perfect President to work with in shutting down the far-right, but they've held off until the one thing they care about is challenged; their bottom line. Trump's zealots have forced their hand, they can't allow their brand to be tarnished any further, so they've acted.
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It's not censorship, it's private companies holding people to the terms of service, right? It's not denying free speech, it's simply holding people accountable for the heinous shit they say.
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Looked like two midtable clubs who're not performing well in the league.
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Takeover back on, Centre for Life rolling out the good shit. It's like Sheikh and Vax to put the freshness back.
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Would you feel the same if he'd cost £40m?
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The consensus appears to be that Joelinton is written off. I think that's harsh given he's only been in the country for, what, 18 months? And he's played his entire Newcastle career under the tutelage of a sentient compost heap.
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He's a young lad, playing in a new league, for a bad coach, in a shit system that, for the majority of his time here, had him isolated in an unfamiliar position and role. I agree that Gayle or Almiron should be ahead of him. But honestly, you'd think he was Ali Dia the way some of our fans are abusing him. The fee is the fault of the club, and I'd say more than half of the issue with his performances are because of the manager. He should still do better, but christ on a bike, he's not that bad.
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Nah. There are two major factors in the level of abuse he's getting. His transfer fee and his performances. The first has fuck all to do with him. The second he can be held responsible for a portion, but not everything. Like I said, Bruce persisted with him as an isolated targetman despite it being obvious that he just isn't that kind of player. He's not even an actual striker ffs.
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Yeah was only messing, I think Joselu suffered in a similar way to Joelinton. Newcastle needed a target man like Rondon, and Joselu was never that. Neither is Joelinton. Honestly if this was Joelinton's first season I don't think he'd be getting the same opprobrium.
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Been watching this recently. It's a good tonic for the real world. Got a bit annoyed at the London episode though. Yes, Dishoom, Dukes and Borough Market amazing, but the rest... meh.
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Recommend me a good restaurant in Newcastle
The Fish replied to Anorthernsoul's topic in General Chat
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Is Hawley to Trump what Priti Patel is to Johnson?
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Surely then, the best political strategy is to impeach him now, which takes him out the running for 24 and makes that election much less chaotic, divisive and violent? Then get someone who can appeal to the yeehaws with his heritage (white, southern, plain spoken), but appeal to the moderates with his rhetoric? Surely, if the Republicans let him run again he'll syphon off votes for someone who can actually win the country? Some of those that voted for Trump this time will have been appalled at the attack on the Capitol and his part in it. Obviously some will think it's brilliant, but they are a minority, in the scheme of things.
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Would impeachment preclude him from taking another run at the presidency?
